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theresascraps · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:04 am Post subject:

Thank you for your replies. I am always curious to learn new things. I appreciate it
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ApotheosisAZ · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:

This is merely a helpful reminder that the discussion here is meandering off-topic. No one admires the religious icons mentioned here more than myself, but the actual topic is "Vernal Equinox and Crowley."

So, I entreat those who wish to relate their feelings regarding the appearance of these religious icons to PM one another about the issue. Again, this is merely a reminder.

Thank you for your time.

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Ziola · The Order of Denderah Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 5774

weird, isn't it? You'll get used to it....

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Ok....here is the appropriate part from the commentary to the Book of the Law:

AL II,35: "Let the rituals be rightly performed with joy & beauty!"

The Old Comment
35. Let us be practical persons, not babblers of gossip and platitude.

The New Comment
A ritual is not a melancholy formality; it is a Sacrament, a Dance, a Commemoration of the Universe. The Universe is endless rapture, wild and unconfined, a mad passion of speed. Astronomers tell us this of the Great Republic of the Stars; physicists say the same of the Little Republic of Molecules. Shall not the Middle Republic of Men be like unto them? The polite ethicist demurs; his ideal is funereal solemnity. His horizon is bounded by death; and his spy-glass is smeared with the idea of sin. The New Aeon proclaims Man as Immortal God, eternally active to do His Will. All's Joy, all's Beauty; this Will we celebrate.
In this verse we see how the awakening leads to ordered and purposeful action. Joy and Beauty are the evidence that our functions are free and fit; when we take no pleasure, and find nothing to admire, in our work, we are doing it wrong.

AL II,36: "There are rituals of the elements and feasts of the times."

The Old Comment
36. A crescendo of ecstasy in the mere thought of performing these rituals; which are in preparation under the great guidance of V.V.V.V.V.

The New Comment
Each element -- fire, earth, air, water, and Spirit -- possesses its own Nature, Will, and Magical Formula. Each one may then have its appropriate ritual. Many such in crude form are described in The Golden Bough of Dr. J.G. Frazer, the Glory of Trinity!
In particular the entry of the Sun into the cardinal signs of the elements at the Equinoxes and Solstices are suitable for festivals.

The difference between 'rituals' and 'feasts' is this: by the one a particular form of energy is generated, while there is a general discharge of one's superfluous force in the other. Yet a feast implies periodical nourishment.

AL II,37: "A feast for the first night of the Prophet and his Bride!"

The New Comment
There should be a special feast on the 12th day of August in every year, since it was the marriage of The Beast which made possible the revelation of the New Law. (This is not an Apology for Marriage. Hard Cases make Bad Law).

AL II,38: "A feast for the three days of the writing of the Book of the Law."

The New Comment
This is April 8th, 9th, and 10th, the feast beginning at High Noon.

AL II,39: "A feast for Tahuti and the child of the Prophet-secret, O Prophet!"

The New Comment
This particular feast is of a character suited only to initiates.

AL II,40: "A feast for the Supreme Ritual, and a feast for the Equinox of the Gods."

The New Comment
The Supreme Ritual is the Invocation of Horus, which brought about the Opening of the New Aeon. The date is March 20.
The Equinox of the Gods is the term used to describe the Beginning of a New Aeon, or a New Magical Formula. It should be celebrated at every Equinox, in the manner known to Neophytes of the A.'.A..'.

AL II,41: "A feast for fire and a feast for water; a feast for life and a greater feast for death!"

The New Comment
The feasts of fire and water indicate rejoicings to be made at the puberty of boys and girls respectively.
The feast for life is at a birth; and the feast for death at a death. It is of the utmost importance to make funerals merry, so as to train people to take the proper view of death. The fear of death is one of the great weapons of tyrants, as well as their scourge; and it distorts our whole outlook upon the Universe.

So...now you have all the feast days.

girlAnachronism · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 483

Great points brought up by everyone here. I do think that 3/20 will (or should) play some importance in the upcoming weeks. Though I agree with whoever brought up the fact that the ceremony is supposed to occur only once in a long time. So I don't think it could be THE ceremony, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of Jonas's cabin neighbors start dancing around in robes.

Completely off topic, but what if the eye was a housewarming gift from a family friend/neighbor?

longlostposter · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:20 am Post subject:

I was thinking, perhaps the practice ceremony was meant to be just that...practice, and this is why they haven't touched Bree since she went on the run. When the time comes, they will take her, maybe?
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject:

I have a question for the Thelemites too. First of all, let me say that I find Thelema very agreeable and interesting. I've always been skeptical of religion and this one is among few that I find myself understanding how anyone could actually believe in it. (This is meant as a compliment, so please don't misread anything I'm saying.)

Anyway, I've been trying to understand exactly what Aleister Crowley did. Did he found Thelema? Or did he simply introduce the themes that eventually led to Thelema? A lot of other belief systems have stemmed out of Crowley's teachings, so I don't quite understand if Thelema is just one among many, the original one, or an inclusion of them all.

As for Bree's "religion," do a lot of "secret societies" branch out of Thelema? Do you see this as a realistic possibility? Or is it totally ludicrous? Do many of these societies view Crowley with such admiration?

Again, don't feel insulted by anything I say. I know religion can be a touchy subject for people in general, but I'd like to remind you that I genuinely respect your beliefs. I don't mean to sound ignorant or skeptical.
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