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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Yes, yes, yes Reply with quote

Kimmy wrote:
This show began with such promise and has degenerated due too much input from fans. Must it happen this way? Storytelling has centuries of excellence to cull from, you gentlement are providing excellent arguments to egg on our creators and I beg you not cease until they change their easy solutions to finer choices.


I don't really have anything else to add at the moment, but if I think of something, I'll toss it in. Unless VF or HyeMew's got something else to say, this may have ran its course.

I appreciate that you called our arguments excellent, though.

Kimmy wrote:
We need to think larger, ask for more, and not just for mid level drama , like Tolkien. (Seriously. If we are going to speak of great drama we must think larger than an entertaining children's book that adults enjoy as a morality tale! Someone mentioned Homer, and I don't want to play favorites, but I'd start with Milton.) Tolkien also has been Done to Death.


To be fair, I'd say only about half of Tolkien's stuff was meant for children. "The Silmarillion" and LoTR were supposed to be accessible to most anyone, but they were also meant to be far darker than "The Hobbit" or "Roverandom."

I agree, though, that Tolkien's been done to death. It's still nice to see when somebody can do something fun with it, but that style has really lost a lot of its charm for me over the years (I still love LoTR, though; it's just all the immitators that rub raw my appreciation for the genre).

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I want this show to suceed. I want very much for it to be completely beautiful in its own way. All that's needed is belief in their own vision and commitment to their own choices to suceed.


That's definitely the truth. I remember telling them that several months ago when it looked like things were going nowhere. It may actually be that this is what they've envisioned and they aren't just trying to play it safe.

If it is, I'd rather they stick with their vision than try to change things up too much.

As I've said, I think there's more they could do, but I really like how the story's being written these days. I feel like they've come a long way and we don't compliment them quite as much as they deserve.

I say this, but, of course, the next time they have a plot development I don't like, you can all probably expect to see me bitching. That's how it goes, though. We're a fickle bunch, and I'm probably no exception.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Yes, yes, yes Reply with quote

Kimmy wrote:
I don't know why I still hope. I see the pedestrian choices and my heart sinks. I want this show to suceed. I want very much for it to be completely beautiful in its own way. All that's needed is belief in their own vision and commitment to their own choices to suceed.


Very nicely put Kimmy and it mirrors my current stance toward LG15 as well. It started off being fairly unique, full of promise, full of possibilities, just ready to push the envelope of what online media could be.

I wouldn't mind more commercialism (artists gotta eat), I wouldn't mind ARGs (but please get a pro this time, and take some time developing it), but I just feel LG15 has right now has been so much unfulfilled potential.

I think it's great that people like the show as it is right now. As for me, it seems really disjointed, like they don't quite know what they want to do, which could also explain the constant back and forward.

Bree likes Jonas likes Bree likes Daniel hates Jonas hates Daniel likes Jonas is evil Bree visits camp Daniel likes Jonas and Bree leaves camp lalalalalalala

Sure, there is stuff going on, and there is plenty of plot, but its all become kinda hollow and random and constantly turns in upon itself for no reason.

But I'd still hope they will circle the wagons and put some actual quality storytelling back into this show.
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