Lonelygirl15 Forum Index Lonelygirl15
Forum to post messages about Bree and Danielbeast
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Making a Case for Glenn
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 9, 10, 11  Next
 
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Lonelygirl15 Forum Index -> Rubbish Bin
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Languorous Lass
The Order of Denderah


Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 2571
Location: Gone, baby, gone

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyeMew, the creators have posted a statement at the end of this thread telling us that they are gathering information and will let us know when they come to a decision. They have also locked that thread and asked us to discuss these issues any further until they make their formal statement.

For me personally, the interim statement is sufficient to indicate that things are still in flux and that the creators haven't forgotten their responsibility to keep us informed.

As I write this, the creators' interim statement is already six hours old. Yet people in this thread were still demanding to hear from the creators an hour and a half ago. Unfortunately, the creators didn't post in, or lock, this thread; I have no idea why. However, I suggest that out of respect for the creators' request, this thread be locked as well.

BTW, I received several PMs yesterday responding to my offer to post a brief explanation of sexual harassment law. Given the creators' request, I'm going to hold off on posting that explanation until we hear the formal statement about Glenn's status. At that point, I'll provide the explanation if it seems appropriate.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HyeMew
Moderator


Joined: 08 Sep 2006
Posts: 797

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Creators wrote:
We ask that you please do not discuss these issues or make claims about Glenn based on conjecture. Please respect us while we gather information and come to a decision. We will be posting a formal statement as soon as possible. I'm going to lock this thread. Thanks!


Gather information? Read this thread, I think everything has been gathered and laid out. There's nothing left to gather. I think we've gone over all the claims and there's no doubt that things got pretty out of control. If they are posting as soon as possible why can't they say anything or clue us in in anyway. Even if they aren't ready to make the final decision they could at least make any sort of comment, calm people down, or at least settle some of the rumors. I know they are entitled to some time to figure things out, but it's been a week. I think everyone has has sorted it out, and all they are doing is facilitating more insanity by being completely quiet. We as fans are OWED better than this, and until then I feel like we're almost being manipulated and allowed to run wild in thoughts and outrageous claims until they say somethinig.

Are they stalling? What if it's the end of the week and they're still saying "we'll comment as soon as possible!" Are they just waiting until Glenn is crushed under the weight of these oppressive and exaggerated claims? I mean seriously, come on guys!
_________________
Check out: Funniest LG15-related episode... ever?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ6kBdNegfs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
horcruxes
Devoted Fan


Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 740

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Languorous Lass wrote:
For me personally, the interim statement is sufficient to indicate that things are still in flux and that the creators haven't forgotten their responsibility to keep us informed.

As I write this, the creators' interim statement is already six hours old. Yet people in this thread were still demanding to hear from the creators an hour and a half ago. Unfortunately, the creators didn't post in, or lock, this thread; I have no idea why. However, I suggest that out of respect for the creators' request, this thread be locked as well.


i whole-heartedly disagree. this thread was already created when the creators post their statement. which means that they did see this i'm sure, as they posted in an entirely different thread as well as the locked one. i have a feeling that the creators left this post unlocked so that they may hear our feelings on the matter. once again, if we had no say in who stays or who goes, then yousef would no longer be with LG15. just because the creators are gathering information and making a decision does not mean we have to sit on the sidelines and hush until they announce something. we are more than allowed to post our thoughts and concerns in order for them to be heard.

HyeMew made a very good point and case for Glenn. and for that i am requesting that this thread be left unlocked, while posts that are flaming be deleted or the users be warned. this is a very serious matter in that it is someone's reputation and career on the line. and if we have the chance to influence this, then i believe we should rally together and post our thoughts.

the fans really do count in this one.
_________________
if i speak, i am condemned.
if i am silent, i am damned.
who am i?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
wintermute
The Order of Denderah


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 4430
Location: Stalking Rae and gamejacking CiW

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about leaving this thread open. I respect The Creators' request to remain patient while they make a decision, but I see no harm in this discussion as long as it remains positive.

'mute
_________________
Proud member of LG15 Defense Force.
Proud member of "The Five" (who have been "Tagged" by Hymn of One).

'vote 'mute in '16!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Languorous Lass
The Order of Denderah


Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 2571
Location: Gone, baby, gone

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyeMew, I have a great deal of respect for you, but on this matter I have to disagree with you.

I am not at all convinced that we on the forum have seen or heard all of the evidence about this situation. Though I understand that you and others here have many connections with ARG players and other forumites, I sincerely doubt that everyone who was involved in interchanges with Glenn would make that information known to anyone other than the creators -- especially given the sexual nature of the allegations.

We aren't "being allowed to run wild in thoughts and outrageous claims." The creators made a plain statement asking that forumites not "make claims about Glenn based on conjecture." I don't understand why anyone thinks that anything more than that is necessary. We don't need to add to the drama here.

Horcruxes, unless you know more about the Yousef situation back in December than I do, it simply isn't true that "if we had no say in who stays or who goes, then yousef would no longer be with LG15." Based on the facts of the situation as they were explained here, Yousef simply misunderstood a request by the creators that the cast not count on LG15 as their only source of income. Again, if you have additional information, I'd appreciate it if you would share that information.

In any event, though, I don't think that the Yousef situation is at all equivalent to this one. Here, Glenn has been accused of serious misconduct. If those allegations are found to be true, then I doubt very much that fan input will make much of a difference in his fate.

Finally, I don't think it helps Glenn in any way to demand a statement from the creators before they are ready to issue one. If they feel overly pressured, they might move too quickly and make the wrong decision.

Let's all just calm down and wait for the process to work itself through.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Killthesmiley
The Order of Denderah


Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 4732
Location: Halifax NS Canada

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what people are forgeting is that there is a lot more information that is not being made public. Not because they don't want it to be made public, but because out of respect for certain people, they aren't going to make it public.

We simply do not have all the information on the forums, and The Creators have more then we do.
I'm trusting that they have all the chat logs, all the statments (in more detail then ours) and that they are using all this information to come to a knowledgable desicion.

While I am disgusted at every aspect of the accusations that Glenn is facing, more so on the "shilling" area (i do understand the schedule aspect of it, but as the creators, including glenn, have stated, if the puzzle isn't figured out the characters would have the answers for us within the next few videos), I do agree he brough up the quality of the story line. It gave the story the base and the meat it needed.

Do I think he should be axed...a part of me is saying yes, but another part of me is saying no.
_________________
kelly

YOU: Who does that KTS think she is? Total bitch!

ME: I think I'm you, only better.

~Kelly, KMurr, and Kellylen <3~
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
ravensgrace
Moderator


Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 683
Location: Cyberspace

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discussing the contributions that Glenn has made to LG15 videos is neither gossip nor conjecture. I agree that this thread should remain open, with one caveat, any posts containing gossip, conjecture, or further speculation about any allegations regarding Glenn shall be split into a separate thread and locked.
_________________
[04:03] <lyriclyinclined> with the exception of a bad apple pucker incident
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
Luv2Luvem
Devoted Fan


Joined: 23 Sep 2006
Posts: 973

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel the need to post in this thread and give my opinion, though everything that I wanted to say has already been said so eloquently. I'm not here to debate with anyone or start any arguments, just to give my thoughts on this matter in the hopes that The Creators may take what we say to heart. I wholeheartedly agree that Glenn has made the whole LG15 experience a better one. Truth be told, if it weren't for him, I'd have stopped watching long ago. 'The Human Ransom' was just amazing. I still find myself watching it over and over. The quality is just phenominal and the excitment it captures is truely a testament to Glenn's talents. (I don't know anyone who can say that they didn't get excited when they heard Tachyon's music start to play. That was just a great moment.) And this is just one of the videos he contributed to. I think it would be a shame if we were to lose someone so talented. It would be a huge loss for the LG15 team in my opinion.

Edited for typos
_________________
Proud member of "The Collective"
and
Official member of "The Smooth Operators"


I shall get some rest when the profile tells me to.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Luminous
Thor's Hammer


Joined: 26 Nov 2006
Posts: 1359
Location: Facility J

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I concur with the gist of this thread as well. If, after looking at all the facts of this very messy situation, there is any way possible to keep Glenn on board, I hope that is the option you choose, Creators. He is a talented man, who has made significant contributions to the LG15 Universe. Hopefully, we have all learned much from this experience and can now move on to greater things.
_________________
You made a wise choice, Bree.
There's no place like home.
Click to watch: The Ice Princess
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
surrealisticpill
Lonely Fan


Joined: 20 Oct 2006
Posts: 250

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also like to express my support for Glenn here. I would like to echo the sentiments of HyeMew, horcruxes, et al. and say that I completely agree. The videos that Glenn has written and directed are among my favorites in the series. In the Human Ransom, I actually cheered out loud when I saw Tachyon's plane pull up and her theme music began. Interrogation 101 really highlighted the acting abilities of Yousef and Jackson. And I loved Yousef's performances in Drinking Problems and Miss Me? I have truly enjoyed his contributions to the series.

Having some first hand knowledge of the allegations that Glenn has been faced with, I would like everyone to know that this situation has been spun entirely out of control by speculation from people who were NOT aware of the whole truths. Glenn hurt no one.

I think it would be a huge mistake if Glenn was not involved in the lg15 production anymore. His talents as a story-teller, writer, editor, and director are apparent. He has made a valuable contribution to the Creators' team. To let Glenn go would be a terrible injustice to him, and to the series.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
immortal1
Enthusiastic Fan


Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 456

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyeMew wrote:
Are they stalling? What if it's the end of the week and they're still saying "we'll comment as soon as possible!" Are they just waiting until Glenn is crushed under the weight of these oppressive and exaggerated claims? I mean seriously, come on guys!


They have their Mixed Media show tomorrow I'd imagine we'd hear something ahead of that or every call will be about it. If they cancel it again then I'd say you'd have a better argument.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HyeMew
Moderator


Joined: 08 Sep 2006
Posts: 797

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Languorous Lass wrote:
I am not at all convinced that we on the forum have seen or heard all of the evidence about this situation. Though I understand that you and others here have many connections with ARG players and other forumites, I sincerely doubt that everyone who was involved in interchanges with Glenn would make that information known to anyone other than the creators -- especially given the sexual nature of the allegations.

We aren't "being allowed to run wild in thoughts and outrageous claims." The creators made a plain statement asking that forumites not "make claims about Glenn based on conjecture." I don't understand why anyone thinks that anything more than that is necessary. We don't need to add to the drama here.


Well this is mighty convenient, is it to. The Creators have said two things on us re: this whole matter, one the night it happened when everything blew up and they fired him from the ARG. I think everyone more or less agrees with that. However, the rumors of him possibly having been completely fired seem to persist, while meanwhile people are thinking all sorts of things about him and what he did or didn't do.
All the evidence we know of is open to the public. The only thing against Glenn is that "there might be MORE to this, that some unknown and unnamed people might have also had chats with him which the Creators have but we don't know about it."

So basically, if there is more and that Glenn might have done some of the more bad things he has been accused of, the Creators have it and aren't telling us. They are EVEN leaving us to speculate about whether or not they DO have worse stuff on Glenn or not. They won't even settle that with a simple statement! It looks to me for whatever reason they are keeping this fire burning and haven't done ONE thing to settle anything. This "we are still gathering evidence"... well it's been a week already. The evidence HAS been gathered and you can find it on Milo's blog.

This isn't the same as Yousefgate, and Glenn has rubbed some people the wrong way, me included as everyone knows, but that doesn't mean he deserves to have his reputation destroyed based this. I feel since Glenn was hired by the Cs, they deserve him some respect and protection as a fellow employee. I am not saying they need to make their statement right now, but THEY know whether there is more to the allegations or not, and so far all they have said is the message of this morning which is nothing but an attempt to stall for time.

So, out of fairness, I think it is OWED to the fans and to Glenn that we should be freed from this never-ending speculation. Just simply tell us, there is more to this or there isn't. You have it or you don't. What, did someone tell them "well I have this chat with Glenn saved from four months ago when he asked me for porn, but I'm not comfortable in sending it yet. Wait another week." I mean seriously, what more is there to collect?! They have it or they don't, and all this is now is hurting Glenn's reputation more day by day as we all wonder whether or not such things exist proving that he IS what the out of control rampant speculation says he might have.
_________________
Check out: Funniest LG15-related episode... ever?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ6kBdNegfs


Last edited by HyeMew on Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:43 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
colbertnationgirl
Hymn of One


Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 14893

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is with all this defending Glenn? He broke the rules, he was fired. End of story.
_________________
That was the weirdest display of geekdom that I have ever seen in my entire life.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
surrealisticpill
Lonely Fan


Joined: 20 Oct 2006
Posts: 250

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

colbertnationgirl wrote:
What is with all this defending Glenn? He broke the rules, he was fired. End of story.


we don't know that he broke any rules. and we don't know that he was fired.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
colbertnationgirl
Hymn of One


Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 14893

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

surrealisticpill wrote:
we don't know that he broke any rules. and we don't know that he was fired.
Shocked I think I just lost my mind...the thread disappeared!! Anyway, there was a thread and there was a person who admitted to getting the answer to a puzzle from Glenn and a post from the Creators that said Glenn was fired. And now its gone... Confused.
_________________
That was the weirdest display of geekdom that I have ever seen in my entire life.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Lonelygirl15 Forum Index -> Rubbish Bin All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 9, 10, 11  Next
Page 2 of 11

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Protected by Anti-Spam ACP