Lonelygirl15

[Languorous Lass]

Out of love and respect for Kasdeja, whose attempting-to-lighten-things-up thread I stupidly jacked with a rant about the mods' editing of that very thread, , I am starting a new thread for my rant.

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It appears that the moderators have begun enforcing a policy of removing posts that are supposedly "off-topic" from a particular thread.

I've got problems with this activity.

1) Nothing in the Forum Etiquette, Rules, and Policies section says a word about threadjacking or off-topic posts.

2) I have not seen any enforcement of an unofficial No Threadjacking policy in the past. For example, threadjacking still runs rampant over the video threads ("Jonas is soooo HAWT!" "No, DB is the HAWTEST!!!"). Same for other sections.

3) If a decision has been made within the past few days to start enforcing a No Threadjacking policy, members of the forum should be notified about it before it is enforced. That's a matter of fundamental fairness: you can't, or at least shouldn't, slam people for engaging in behavior you haven't told them is wrong.

In addition, moderators, please understand: sometimes a threadjack is a lighthearted way of dealing with the original topic.

Please, LIGHTEN UP. Let the forum deal with interpersonal conflict in its own sweet way. Don't intervene unless it's ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to avoid hostilities. In the process, kindly be fair to ALL posters.

And leave good-natured threadjacks alone.

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Okay, enough from me on this issue for the moment. Anybody want to talk about cherries?

[Flautapantera]

Just to clear the air a bit...

This is the Concerns and Complaints area of the Forum and, as such, is set forth to house questions and issues dealing specifically with LG15 and LG15-related subjects. The FERP states:

"General Discussion is sort of a catch-all. Use the Suggestions, Concerns and Complaints, and other areas to talk about the LG15 phenomenon. If you want to meet other LG15 fans, visit the Get to Know Each Other forum. If you want to chat about anything non-LG15 related, try Off the Cuff. Please remember that fans of all ages read these forums, so the issues of appropriate content mentioned above still apply in these areas. They are not free-for-alls!"

Therefore, the act by the moderators in weeding out the silly off-topic posts in justified. I hope this helps, Lass. This by no means was meant to come across in a harsh way...just to sorta prove a point.

*skips back on topic*

EDIT: Also, this isn't a very "new" or recent mod issue. It's been an unofficial notion that Off the Cuff is where orphan posts and threads go. Many times posts have been split off from the Video section to make way for pertinent discussion.

It's also much easier for mods, admin, and the Creators to sift through the concerns of the members of the LG15 Forum community if so-called unimportant threads and topics are removed.
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Vice President of the Owen Fan Club

You know that moment where you just want to grab a pair of scissors and run away with them?

[Killthesmiley]

well lass...i'm going to have to some what agree with you and some what disagree...

with that specific thread that you are ranting about, Kas stated very clear, that she was dead serious and wanted her thread to be taken serious...but we weren't we were goofing off and joking around, hence movement, which does soley belong in the off the cuff section.

while policies and rules may not state it, each forum has its own set of rules, stated as a sticky (usually called what to discuss here OR the forum's name). In those rule/guideline/discription it says exsatly what belongs in that forum. NOW, while sometimes, sure hijacking is a great way to disarm people, stop flaming, etc. specificly, I know from experience, goofing off is a huge no-no in this section. It's not because we don't like it 100%, it's because it's meant to be a soley serious place to discuss the concerns or problems we have with the forum/show/site without the threat of ridicule or flaming (while...this is probably the #1 spot to get flamed). It's soley for concerns and complaints for the moderators and creators and serious discussion about said topics, just like in the spam area you wouldn't goof off, like Evan so specially did once, and got his thread deleted soley because that forum does no serve that purpose.

I lurves you Lass, but understand, sometimes goofing off like that is jsut not welcomed in certain places. That is why off the cuff, pmonkey's play hosue and get to know each other were created. Thats why we have so many subforums. So we can stay in topic in the designated areas.

(edited to add a bit)
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[Killthesmiley]

holy crap I'm eating my words, because this forum doesn't have one of those stickies...

...well...all the other forums do... i think
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[Languorous Lass]

[ApotheosisAZ]

LL, I'd like to try to help clarify this issue as well. Please don't take this personally, but in your original post you stated:

[Flautapantera]

[Flautapantera]

[ApotheosisAZ]

I don't know, FP. I assume that BK had a reason for adding that. Perhaps he intended to remove the suggestions as he incorporated them into the FERP?

I think a thread in the suggestion area might be a better way.
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[Languorous Lass]

[Broken Kid]

Lass, since you didn't contact me with questions about this issue, I'm a bit confused. You raised this now in three separate threads, and I replied once and Apo replied once. Edit: You mentioned it in four threads.

While it's true that some threads are allowed to go off-topic, the moderators are typically watching for discussion related to LG15, and if they find that a serious discussion is going off-topic, they are instructed to either steer the conversation back on topic or split off the off-topic information. By contrast, if a discussion of Jonas' sexual preference goes off-topic, it does not typically bear the same constraints, as it is not generally handled in the same serious manner. Every topic of discussion is different, and it's up to the moderators how to handle it. If an off-topic discussion gets in the way of an important conversation, the moderators will take action.

Often, an off-topic conversation will take a thread in a significantly detrimental direction. If it's leading to flaming or similarly non-constructive discussion, better to split it off or close it off. If it's good natured and light-hearted and not interfering with the main topic of the thread, it's very seldom touched.

This all meets with the moderator guidelines and the forum rules and policies. I hope that helps, but feel free to contact me if you're unclear still.
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[Languorous Lass]

BK, I consider this topic to be separate from the one I raised in the other threads (except for Kas's thread, the one about which I apologized above -- that's the one that sparked this thread).

In the two threads I think you're referring to, I was talking about posts that disagreed with the position taken by the original poster, but were on the same topic.

Here, I'm talking about posts that are definitely off-topic, but that don't seem -- to me, at least -- to justify moderator action.

EDITED TO ADD: If the mods have been instructed to take the kinds of actions you mention, I think it's important for that information to be placed in the FERP messages.

[Broken Kid]

[Languorous Lass]