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trainer101 Moderator Manager
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 2671 Location: Wasting away again ILLUMINATIVILLE...
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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marlasinger wrote: | I truly think that it would have worked out perfectly - if the creators had agreed to it.
they haven't. and jeromy prepared for that. so the option of him being jonas's dad is discounted, but the alternate option of him being someone else is pretty much confirmed. |
I can't say that I interpreted Jeromy's musings in the same way. There is no direct tie to LG15, true. Yet, I'm not so sure that means that any 'crossover character' (for lack of a better phrase) like Jonas' dad, is completely off the table. _________________ It's STILL all connected... |
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Emsmu Casual Observer
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 68 Location: At my computer watching LG15
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I cant say he's off the tables trainer. If Zipp turns out to be Jonas's dad and then another Jonas's dad pops up in the breeniverse, there will be some confusion. _________________ What is EMSMU?
Tag, your it. |
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 2094 Location: Boston
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is still entirely possible that Bree is an Order Baby. I agree with trainer in that when Jeromy said his story wouldn't directly tie to LG15, he meant that it wouldn't DEPEND on the story of LG15. His video "The Cassie Curse" pretty much explains this. The Creators encourage fanfiction and Jeromy could still very well use a storyline inspired by LG15, thus making an ARG about another girl who is an "Order baby." _________________ "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
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marlasinger Devoted Fan
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 736 Location: The 8th Dimension
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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by bree you mean maddison? _________________ my love tastes a lot like tofu.
The Bree Solution.
http://one.revver.com/watch/330795
"Also... im in ur canons... supporting all ur marlas."
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 2094 Location: Boston
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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oh god, yes I'm sry. _________________ "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
-- V For Vendetta <3 |
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TOSG Devoted Fan
Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 651
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking about this stuff during a long drive home today.
Here are my conclusions - forgive me if they're redundant (I haven't read ALL of the recent IG threads) or incoherent (I was - and still am - very tired, and rather hyped up on modafinil, BDJ kidnapper-style).
I think that Mr. Zipp has to be someone close to Maddison, NOT ONLY in relationship, but also proximity. Of course, as we all know, he knew her computer passwords, which were very personal to her. So, he must know her fairly well.
But also, I think that it's evident that they're geographically close. Someone mentioned that homing pigeons (like the ones that delivered Maddison her messages) work by being delivered to a location, then flying home. From Wikipedia: "People often labor under the misapprehension that the pigeons know where to deliver the mail. The fact is that they can only go back to one "mentally marked" point that they have identified as their home." A thread was posted about this, and Jeromy even remarked that this would be a good subject for IG speculation. Thus, Zipp would have to be fairly close to drop off the pigeon(s) for them to find. Or, alternatively, their home IS that of Maddison. Moreover, the third note was simply left on her door - someone had to drop it off. If Mr. Zipp wasn't in Nac, TX, at the very least, one of his associates had to have been.
So, who could he be?
I don't really know. I had a thought that it could be Maddison's father. That would explain both the relational and physical proximity, and would provide a neat twist about saving "his only child." However, it begs the question of why he wouldn't simply warn and explain this to Maddison directly. Do we know anything about Maddison's immediate family? Someone else had a thought that Mr. Zipp is Maddison herself. That might be a bit "out there," but given additional information, it could explain some things. Another possibility is that Mr. Zipp is Adam's father.
Another thought:
If you agree with me that Mr. Zipp was probably located in the same city as Maddison (which I'm not even going to attempt to spell), then it begs the question of who was planting the drops. I had an idea about this, although it's kind of out there: given the musical focus of the game (and indeed, I believe that at least two of the three drops occurred at concert venues), could it be possible that a touring band has been planting the drops (IG, of course, not OOG)? Like I said, maybe farfetched. But has anyone checked to see if a band has played in each of the three drop cities around the dates on which the drops occurred?
Anyway, I hope that this is coherent and insightful. Heck, I'd settle for one out of the two. But I'm going to go get some much needed sleep right now. |
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lg15panda Casual Observer
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 95
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: |
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I agree whole-heartedly, TOSG -- Zipp was someone that was close to Madison and possibly stalking her (or, in my theory, WAS her, but I've already mentioned that, so I won't discuss it again unless I've got something new).
Towards the end I think even Maddison was acknowledging this fact. I found the chat archive thread (can someone please sticky this again? It got buried, and I think it should be relevant to all current IG discussions), where she states:
Quote: | [15:54] <Sami^> Maddison, have do you think Zipp knew your password? What if he's someone you know!?
[15:54] <maddison> Adam said he'd come
[15:54] <maddison> It may be somebody I know
[15:54] <maddison> How could I know that though
[15:55] <marlasinger> then he's gotta be able to reach you by foot
[15:55] <edgyprophet> you could put a cam outside you door Smile
[15:55] <maddison> I thought of that-
[15:55] <maddison> I'll set it up tonight
[15:55] <marlasinger> Good job Maddison.
[15:55] <maddison> Adam and I have been re-recording over the same hadful of tapes
[15:57] <maddison> All of the pigeons had to be planted
[15:57] <edgyprophet> or trained
[15:57] <maddison> both of them I mean
[15:57] <edgyprophet> to know your home
[15:57] <marlasinger> Right, it only makes sense. Planting a pigeon would be making it look like you're far away
[15:58] <edgyprophet> maddison did you see that thing about jules having pigeons
[15:58] <maddison> At first, I didn't know how homing pigeons worked
[15:58] <maddison> Yeah - I saw that
[15:58] <maddison> I don't know her
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Your other ideas are interesting too:
TOSG wrote: | Do we know anything about Maddison's immediate family? |
This was also answered in one of the earlier chats:
Quote: | [14:29] Deja: Maddison, are you close with your parents?
[14:30] maddison: I'm fine with my parents
[14:30] maddison: They live outside of Houston
[14:30] maddison: in Spring
[14:30] surrealisticpill: are your parents religious?
[14:30] maddison: not really
[14:30] surrealisticpill: maddison, are you one of these 'new girls' that bree was talking about in her video?
[14:31] maddison: I don't know any foreighn languages accept for the Spanish I learned in high school
[14:31] Deja: What do they [your parents] do for a living?
[14:31] maddison: My dad works for Cameron Oil
[14:31] maddison: North Houston
[14:32] maddison: My mom is a Priestess for the Order!!!
[14:32] maddison: just kidding - My mom is a secretary for a law firm downtown
[14:33] Kellylen: maddy were you adopted?
[14:33] maddison: no
[14:33] maddison: I mean I don't think so
[14:33] surrealisticpill: were you born vaginally?
[14:33] maddison: maybe Pill - don't remember |
And to comment on the idea of the culprit(s) behind the drops (because obviously Zipp isn't doing it by himself), I think that your idea is a good one that I'll be looking into. The problem is, that now that it is a couple of weeks after everything happened, it will be VERY difficult to determine if there were any legit bands that have played in the 4/10-4/25 timeframe. I've got a feeling that MySpace might help, but I hate MySpace a lot so it might take me a while to research this.
Good ideas, though! |
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ignatzmouse Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 305 Location: Coconino County, AZ
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Emily, Emily Emily...
The jealous girlfriend, gets it into her head that Adam and Maddison are having an affair, decides on revenge. Oh, and she's a good friend of warpylol too, er and someone who races pigeons. _________________ Facility J: Will the last disgruntled employee to leave please destroy The Cure? |
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sparkybennett Devoted Fan
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think Mr Zipp is/was a musician, (forgive me if someone already noted this)
Did Maddy mention any musicians other than the one she had a crush on?
Anything like that? _________________ "Children analyze fantasy. They know you're kidding them. There's got to be logic in the way you kid them. Their fun is pretending...making believe they believe it." Dr Seuss |
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Esteed Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 432 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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...That would've been a really good question to ask her, actually. |
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 2094 Location: Boston
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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You can never be 100% certain who your biological father is... _________________ "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
-- V For Vendetta <3 |
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TOSG Devoted Fan
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote: | You can never be 100% certain who your biological father is... |
Maury Povich begs to differ! |
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nowherepixie Owen's Helper
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1633 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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ignatzmouse wrote: | Emily, Emily Emily...
The jealous girlfriend, gets it into her head that Adam and Maddison are having an affair, decides on revenge. Oh, and she's a good friend of warpylol too, er and someone who races pigeons. |
Nyah! Imagine!
She must still be around somewhere.... Eep! |
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Aja Lonely Fan
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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So about Mr. Zipp...
I missed the chat with Jeromy and so I just read the chat log today. He said in chat that he thought the "Mr. Zipp puzzle" was easy, but wouldn't say what/who he meant by that.
So I got to thinking. The first introduction we had to Mr. Zipp was the email sent to Maddy and the video "Immerse Myself." Should we go back to that email/video and study it more carefully? Maybe there is something obvious that we are missing. I get the feeling from the discussions with Jeromy that WHO is Mr. Zipp is important.
Ok, off to re-watch videos... _________________ Hey... Aja!
You can find me on MySpace, MyTube, MyIRC and now MyBebo! |
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QtheC Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Zipp free association...
Skipper Zipp (from the Dr. Seuss book)
zip = zip code
zip = zero, nothing, nil
zip = zip-line (the kind you ride down on)
zip = speedy movement, perhaps in a cartoon
zip = zipper, zip up clothing, a tent, luggage, a bag
zip = zip your lips (silence)
zip = zip-gun (crude homemade gun)
zip = kill?
Zipp, Madd (similar pattern of letters)
Zip p = zippy
zip = zippo lighter
zip = zip file (compressed data file)
zip = vintage Zip electric guitars http://www.jhs.co.uk/zip.html
Zipp = "Zipp Speed Weaponry" (company that makes racing bicycle parts see zipp.com
From Dictionary.com :
–noun
1. a sudden, brief hissing sound, as of a bullet.
2. Informal. energy; vim; vigor.
–verb (used without object)
3. to move with a zipping sound.
4. Informal. to act or move with speed or energy: I'll just zip upstairs.
–verb (used with object) Informal.
5. to convey with speed and energy: I'll zip you downtown on my motorcycle.
6. to add vitality or zest to (usually fol. by up): A little garlic zips up a salad.
–verb (used with object)
1. to fasten or unfasten with a zipper: Zip your jacket. Zip open the traveling case.
2. to enclose or free by doing up or undoing a zipper: Zip this money into your wallet. Zip me out of my dress.
–verb (used without object)
3. to become fastened or unfastened by means of a zipper: a handy purse that zips shut.
4. to do up or undo a zipper.
–noun
5. a zipper.
–adjective
6. utilizing or having a zipper: a coat with a zip front.
–noun
1. zero or nothing: The score of last night's hockey game was 4–zip.
–verb (used with object)
2. (in sports) to defeat by keeping an opponent from scoring: The home team was zipped again yesterday.
–noun
1. zip code.
–verb (used with object)
2. to zip-code.
zip (v.1)
"move rapidly," 1852, of echoic origin. Zippy is first attested 1904. Zip gun "homemade pistol" first recorded 1950.
zip
1. To create a compressed archive (a "zip file") from one or more files using PKWare's PKZIP or a compatible archiver. |
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