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katiej88 Casual Observer
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: |
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kellylen wrote: | Quote: | Bree Trait Reference Points:
Theories concerning ribozyme function
a)RNAse P related -tRNA cleavage
b)splicosome related - intron/exon splicing
c)Hammerhead related - telomere synthesis
d)GlmS ribozyme related - fructose 6-phosphate pathway |
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guys there IS a thread saying the solution |
I disagree with "Bree Trait"...
1. It doesn't make sense
2. It really doesn't look like that to me. The middle of the word doesn't have a t... i don't know. I can't explain it.
the best I can come up with is "Par In Dat"... which makes no sense.
but WOW on the rest of it! |
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megs229 Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Great job guys! Wish they could post this stuff so that it isn't in the middle of the night for the east coasters! Some of us have to work in the am and can't be up until midnight, but oh well. You all did great!!!! Just wish I could get the opportunity to help for once Anyways, party time, it finally looks like they have something solid that could possibly help Bree instead of just stabs in the dark. You all rock!!!! _________________ You can call me Meg, Megan or Megs Or whatever you feel like lol |
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TOSG Devoted Fan
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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megs229 wrote: | Some of us have to work in the am and can't be up until midnight, but oh well. |
And some of us have to work in the AM, but stay up til 3AM working on the puzzle anyway.
Bad decisions? _________________ I'm canon; the Creators just don't know it yet. |
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definenormal32 Suspiciously Absent
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: The solution |
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Objective:
How to transform Bree from TRAIT:POSITIVE to TRAIT:NEGATIVE.
Given Facts:
1) Bree's blood contains a special ribozyme mutated and unique only to her
2) _____ for said ribozyme has a ______ hyper mutation that changes with every generation
3) A non-functioning synthetic ribosyme exists and manifests differently in every Hymn of One girl
4) This portion still functions, but you cannot bleed because the complementary strand of RNA won't clot
Theoretical Solution
1) Block the ribozyme in question by obtaining a sample of that same ribozyme ____
2) Create complementary strain of RNA
3) Q.E.D. strand will bind to ribozyme and occlude its _____
Practical Solution
1) Obtain blood sample of Bree
2) Synthesize a complimentary strand of RNA
3) Inject Bree with this compliementary strand
4) Q.E.D. Ribozymes blocked ________
Intended Results
1) Once synthesized and injected into Bree, she will become TRAIT:NEGATIVE
2) Additional consequences (if any) - TBD
______ Reference Points
Theories concerning ribozyme function
a)RNAse P related -tRNA cleavage
b)splicosome related - intron/exon splicing
c)Hammerhead related - telomere synthesis
d)GlmS ribozyme related - fructose 6-phosphate pathway |
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giddeanx Devoted Fan
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 701 Location: What's round on the ends and HI in the middle?
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Q.E.D. Ribozymes blocked rendered ineffectual. _________________ "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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allie Suspiciously Absent
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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SivartAlappes wrote: | Aponi wrote: | kellylen wrote: | tazman2087 wrote: | kellylen
see i was on track with replicate. |
lololol yeah i see
and its copy guys.
like i said. things in science having to do with biochemistry and genetics DO NOT BLEND! |
I am back! I needed food.
I agree with copy, it makes sense.
But it's NOT block.
you cannot block it because the complimenatary strand of RNA won't combine?
If it won't combine it's already being blocked. So 'you' don't need to block it.
Maybe its something else that begins with bl?
I'm just saying, block makes no sense in context. |
Thankyou Aponi!!!!! |
Okay guys, I realize that sounds counter intuitive but think about it. RNA is inherently single stranded. 3-unit nucleotides called codons temporarily bind to the RNA and each codon codes for an amino acid. A bunch of amino acids put together makes a protein. So like, we all know that DNA is like our body's "cookbook." double stranded DNA makes single stranded RNA which makes codons that code for proteins which make up our body. If RNA binds to a complimentary strand of opposite RNA (I have no idea how feasible this is, I've never heard of this happening), but if it were to bind to another strand of RNA, then it would block the ability for codons to be produced. Hence blocking a certain protein from being made. Bingo! Trait negative here we come!! =) |
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kellylen The Order of Denderah
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 2823 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: |
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allie wrote: | SivartAlappes wrote: | Aponi wrote: | kellylen wrote: | tazman2087 wrote: | kellylen
see i was on track with replicate. |
lololol yeah i see
and its copy guys.
like i said. things in science having to do with biochemistry and genetics DO NOT BLEND! |
I am back! I needed food.
I agree with copy, it makes sense.
But it's NOT block.
you cannot block it because the complimenatary strand of RNA won't combine?
If it won't combine it's already being blocked. So 'you' don't need to block it.
Maybe its something else that begins with bl?
I'm just saying, block makes no sense in context. |
Thankyou Aponi!!!!! |
Okay guys, I realize that sounds counter intuitive but think about it. RNA is inherently single stranded. 3-unit nucleotides called codons temporarily bind to the RNA and each codon codes for an amino acid. A bunch of amino acids put together makes a protein. So like, we all know that DNA is like our body's "cookbook." double stranded DNA makes single stranded RNA which makes codons that code for proteins which make up our body. If RNA binds to a complimentary strand of opposite RNA (I have no idea how feasible this is, I've never heard of this happening), but if it were to bind to another strand of RNA, then it would block the ability for codons to be produced. Hence blocking a certain protein from being made. Bingo! Trait negative here we come!! =) |
RNA comes in single stranded and double stranded. DNA also comes in single stranded and double stranded. I know. I got this question wrong on an exam XD and that was the answer _________________ -Kelly |
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Taig Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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for god's sake STOP with the mutliple quotes!!!!!!! what is wrong with you people? Is this your first time on a web forum?
and definenormal32 please fix that gd avatar! a) it is oversized and b)well I can't say b) because then the post willl get deleted. _________________ Maturity is a bitter disappointment for which no remedy exists, unless laughter can be said to remedy anything.”
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avian_firefly Casual Observer
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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well I was going to post the words i had figure out the morning but ou guys already got those XD
here is is anyways:
The Bree Solution
Objectives:
How to tansform Bree from TRAIT: POSITIVE to TRAIT:NEGATIVE
Given Facts:
1) Bree's blood contains a special ribozyme mutated and unique only to her
2) _____ for said ribozyme has a regular hyper mutation that changes with every generation
3) A non-function ________ ribozyme exists and manifests differently in every Hymn of One girl
4) This portion still functions but you cannot ___________ because the compatable strand of RNA won't connect
Theoretical Solution
1) __________ the ribozyme in question by obtaining a sample of the that same ribozyme (?)
2) Create a complimentary strand of RNA
3) Q.E.D. strand will bind to ___________
Practical Solution
1) Obtain blood sample of Bree
2) Synthesize complimentary strand of RNA
3) Inject Bree with this compliementary strand
4) Q.E.D. ribozymes _________
Intended Results:
1) Once ______ed and injected into Bree she will become ______
2) Additional consequences (if any) - TBD _________________ ~Jonas Fangirl~
if you look too hard, you can go mad, but if you continue to look, you become liberated |
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allie Suspiciously Absent
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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kellylen wrote: |
RNA comes in single stranded and double stranded. DNA also comes in single stranded and double stranded. I know. I got this question wrong on an exam XD and that was the answer |
for real? weird. is that only in unusual circumstances, cause i've only taken one bio class so far at my school, but they made it clear dna was double stranded and rna was single. |
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marlasinger Devoted Fan
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 736 Location: The 8th Dimension
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: |
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er, did i post here already? I thought I had. I swore I did. Didn't I?
Just in case I didn't: Kelly - check out TOSG's thread in Spencer Chat, ya? _________________ my love tastes a lot like tofu.
The Bree Solution.
http://one.revver.com/watch/330795
"Also... im in ur canons... supporting all ur marlas."
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kellylen The Order of Denderah
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 2823 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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i did marlaaa but its still too early for my brain to work _________________ -Kelly |
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crazymonkeyq Suspiciously Absent
Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 2 Location: ON, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: the complete page! |
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The Bree Solution (that sounds REALLY important Shocked)
Objectives:
How to transform Bree from TRAIT: POSITIVE to TRAIT: NEGATIVE
Given Facts:
1) Bree's blood contains a special Ribozyme mutated and unique only to her
2) The Genome for said ribozyme has a regular hyper mutation that changes with every generation
3) A non-functioning mutated ribozyme exists and manifests differently in every Hymn of One girl
4) This portion still functions but you cannot block it because the Complementary Strand of RNA won't combine
Theoretical Solution
1) Block the ribozyme in question by obtaining a sample of the that same ribozyme in order to synthesize it *
2) Create a complementary strand of RNA
3) Q.E.D. strand will bind to ribozyme and occlude its activity *
Practical Solution
1) obtain blood sample of Bree
2)synthesize complimentary strand of RNA
3) inject bree with this compliementary strand
4) Q.E.D. ribozymes blocked rendered defunctual
Intended Results
1) Once synthesized and injected into bree she'll become trait negative
2) additional consequences (if any) - TBD
Bree’s Trait Reference Points
The steps concerning ribozyme function
a)RNAse P related -tRNA cleavage
b)splicosome related - intron/exon splicing
c)hammerhead related - telomere synthesis
d)GlmS ribozyme related - fructose 6-phosphate pathway
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this is what i got so far but it's a little farther than what we got!
the stars are the stuff i added. all the blanks are filled in but some of them might be wrong so if they are wrong correct them please!
the document is like a school science lab but a little more confusing. i could probubly help you, Spencer synthesizethe blood sample (if and when u get it) if i didn't live in Canada. lol |
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SivartAlappes Lonely Fan
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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TOSG wrote: | megs229 wrote: | Some of us have to work in the am and can't be up until midnight, but oh well. |
And some of us have to work in the AM, but stay up til 3AM working on the puzzle anyway.
Bad decisions? |
Yeah, pretty much what I did too! |
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Sheqinah Lonely Fan
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Samara wrote: | Sheqinah wrote: | Samara wrote: | Oh, I give up. Too many cooks in the kitchen.....as it were. |
oh no, I really think your photoshop idea is a good one... I wanted to see the final copy. |
Thanks. I just needed to pull out for sanity sake. The rest I will leave alone or I'll end up saying things I'll regret. |
I hope you will finish it up. The TAAG may post it on their next vid _________________ "Little minds are tamed and subdued by misfortune, but great minds rise above them." |
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