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imagin Casual Observer
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have some mixed feelings about her purity or lack thereof at this point. I totally agree with how Daniel makes it sound, but the terminology he used in the video is not conclusive... in fact, it seems designed to make us do exactly what we're doing... wonder.
It would really be a stretch, I think, for Bree to suddenly have sex with Daniel. This is a girl who was shy and embarassed about a first kiss a couple of months ago, remember? And as far as we know, they hadn't even kissed since.
I admit, it's possible, in a rebellion sort of way... but it feels too extreme. Possible... but not very likely. It would be a very out-of-character act for Bree... and it would bring in an awful lot of potential situations to happen that can't be ignored... and would really be going above and beyond to deal with at this time. It also would remove all chance of relationship anticipation that the creators could use... and I just can't see them thowing that away.
I see a lot of maybes...
- yes, they did, and Daniel's stupid enough to talk about it on a video...
- no, they didn't, and Daniel didn't mean it the way it sounds...
- Regardless of how far things went, Daniel and/or Bree thinks it's a good idea to make Op think she's not pure anymore in hopes it would make the Order not desire Bree anymore.
- It's entirely possible that Daniel isn't telling the truth at all. Perhaps nothing happened at all... and Daniel came up with the bright idea on his own. Bree would be ticked.
- Then again... that foosball vid makes me wonder if that wasn't a bit of foreplay, so to speak, posted to make Op worry a bit and be thinking in that direction... and then be like, oh, then here comes a vid confirming it.
- What's to say that Daniel's vid isn't for Jonas' benefit? See, she's not such a cold fish after all...
Of course, the preggers thing... I AM wondering where they get all the babies to play in "controlled" homes. But I think if they already had control of the mother, then that wouldn't be an issue, would it? _________________ imagin
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 2094 Location: Boston
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Bree outright denies anything more than a kiss. But, Bree tells lies.
"Second of all..... there is no second of all." _________________ "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
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Luv2Luvem Devoted Fan
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 973
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Sad Panda wrote: |
I know Alister Crowley was very into sexual rituals that involved impregnanting a woman. I can't remember what I'm specifically referring to, but I'll snoop through my old research and check it out before I stat Crowley babbling. |
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TJ Marsh Thor's Hammer
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1483 Location: Stalked by Flautapantera.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmm. _________________ Long live LG15. |
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shifty Enthusiastic Fan
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tigerlilylynn Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 891 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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shifty wrote: | Do you mind not making useless posts? There are other sections to raise your post count.
Thanks. |
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Ruberic Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 267
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Shifty....you're my hero! LOL
Ok, now really...
Impregnating a female for ritualistic sense typically required a ritual to go along with it, which technically would imbue the concieved child with specific characteristics or power. Outside of the ritual...the female would just be knocked up...nothing special. If Bree was needing to be kept "pure" for the ritual in a virginal sense...her having sex would DEFINATELY bugger things up.
Having said that...I don't think the order really needs Bree to be sexually pure. I think it is just another wat of controlling her. Or maybe testing her.
Just my thoughts. _________________ Order in your life is meant to build strength and confidence. Without the order, there is chaos. The order, in life, is necessary. |
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 2094 Location: Boston
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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oh shifty.
Just wanted to say that while Bree denies having sex (which may or may not be the truth), I think she still has decreased considerably in "purity."
-She initiated the kiss.
-She is calling it 'just a kiss,' thus regarding kisses as insignificant.
-She has a personality now (bitch). _________________ "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
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fuzzy_bunny85 Casual Observer
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 113
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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They may not have had sex, but Bree's definately reluctant to show affection for Daniel because of what happened to her dad.
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Danielle Thor's Hammer
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 1248
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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take it from a girl who knows.
they just kissed, and its very annoying for someone to run around screaming love and flubup. I'd be pissed too.
anyone else notice how hot Bree just got? Someone found eyeliner, cleavage and a spine.
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achenar Casual Observer
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Danielle wrote: | take it from a girl who knows.
they just kissed, and its very annoying for someone to run around screaming love and flubup. I'd be pissed too.
anyone else notice how hot Bree just got? Someone found eyeliner, cleavage and a spine.
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It's a spine of sorts, yeah, but it's an unnecessarily harsh one. I actually find new, spiky Bree more repulsive than flippy kiddy Bree.
Don't think impurity's an issue, though. Pity - that possibly would have shaken the Order off nicely. _________________ ~-~-~
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Sad Panda Devoted Fan
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 689 Location: On Tachyon's Heels ...
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Luv2Luvem wrote: | Sad Panda wrote: |
I know Alister Crowley was very into sexual rituals that involved impregnanting a woman. I can't remember what I'm specifically referring to, but I'll snoop through my old research and check it out before I stat Crowley babbling. |
Oh no! Not the Moonchild thing again! Say it ain't so! |
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Nieriel.Manwathiel Owen's Helper
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 1504 Location: Somewhere between here and there
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Remember when everyone wanted to test Jonas by telling him to break an Order taboo? I say this smells like a trick and they're hedging their bets; Oppy believes Daniel, they run to them and B, D and J get the break they've been waiting for. Oppy believes Bree, she'll give her some congrats for maintaining her purity status, thus making DB able to trace her or sumthin. _________________ A watching_watchers-certified POST WHORE! |
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mymindislost Casual Observer
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 42
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm kind of wondering if Bree's "purity" has to do with her sexual status, in any sense, at all. Part of me feels like it has more to do with betraying the ideas of the order by taking the advice of outsiders, like simply listening to or associating with people outside the order could affect her purity.
Op and Gemma have both talked about Bree's purity, Op in "You made the right choice, Bree" and I don't remember which of Gemma's videos. I don't have time to look right now. I swear it's there, though. Unless it's not. Then I'll just look silly.
Anyway, Op was applauding Bree for turning her back on both Daniel and her viewers on the internet, calling them "outsiders" and stating that they "just don't get it." Neither of those things really screams "don't have sex with anyone" to me.
As I recall, it was pretty much the same situation with Gemma's advice. I could be off on that, though. Someone please tell me if I am.
I suppose there could be the underlying implication of Op and Gemma not wanting a romantic relationship with Daniel and Bree, but I think they would state that more blatantly, maybe? Maybe not?
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fuzzy_bunny85 Casual Observer
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone noticed the absence of P-Monkey and Owen since Daniel's little anouncement. Our little Bree has become a women (jk).
But seriously, where are our furry friends? _________________ ~~~christyna~~~ |
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