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Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:22 am Post subject:

So we have people trained as writers, poets, actors and artists and not one of them can even agree on the definition of critique...to me that says something.
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rupaZer0 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:34 am Post subject:

I don't think the disagreement lies in what critique is. I think it lies in what constitutes well-intentioned constructive criticism.

While we all agree that honesty is important people like BK and Susan are arguing that it is important to be honest in way that clearly states what the object of criticism lacks and what it doesn't lack, and not in a way that attacks the artist or leaves the artist feeling personally inadequate. Kasdeja and spacie are arguing that in trying to rephrase your criticism in a way that doesn't hurt people you're not being honest, and don't like being asked to compromise their self-expression for the sake of other people's feelings.

That's my interpretation. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:36 am Post subject:

Now, is that really what I said? No, I was starting off in this because so many were coming off as "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" OR "If you don't think it's good you are being cruel"...which isn't so. From there there seems to be quite a discussion on critique and constructive criticism...being discussed between different sorts of artsy folks...and everyone still has a different opinion.
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longlostposter · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:48 am Post subject:

I think we should use her to find out more about the ceremony, and then kill her off.

Something weird is happening with the insistence of pushing this girl down our collective throats.

ETA: Nevermind, I don't want her around long enough to use her.
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impulse · Devoted Fan Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 939

Dear Jules,

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longlostposter · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:52 am Post subject:

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rupaZer0 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:58 am Post subject:

Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:59 am Post subject:

Man, that's like a college let down letter.
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Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:10 am Post subject:

rupaZer0 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:14 am Post subject:

Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:51 am Post subject:

I'm probably just coming off a little short because I'm in extreme pain right now, so I apologize. I have a doctor's appt in about two hours and hopefully I'll be better after that.
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rupaZer0 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:

Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:34 am Post subject:

I just want to say I'm not trying to defend rudeness. That wasn't my goal, it was merely that just because some of us offer sound advice and do not like this character, that doesn't mean we are being cruel. I've seen the remarks about her that would be cruel, but not all. But, it also seems that everyone has different opinions on what counts as constructive and what doesn't. I don't really want to argue with anyone. I think we are pretty much on the same page.
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