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		| kellylen The Order of Denderah
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Spencer the solution! |   |  
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				| Hey hun   
 Here is the tentative solution to the papers you gave us today
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | The Bree Solution (that sounds REALLY important Shocked) Objectives:
 How to tansform Bree from TRAIT: POSITIVE to TRAIT:NEGATIVE
 
 Given Facts:
 1) Bree's blood contains a special  Ribozyme mutated and unique only to her
 2) The Gene for said ribozyme has a regulatory hyper mutation that changes with every generation
 3) A non-functioning mutated ribozyme exists and manifests differently in every Hymn of One girl
 4) This portion still functions but you cannot block it because the Complementary Strand of RNA won't copy
 
 Theoretical Solution
 1) Block the ribozyme in question by obtaining a sample of the that same ribozyme in order to copy it
 2) Create a complementary strand of RNA
 3) Q.E.D. strand will bind to ribozyme and occlude its copy
 
 Practical Solution
 1) obtain blood sample of Bree
 2) synthesize complimentary strand of RNA
 3) inject bree with this compliementary strand
 4) Q.E.D. ribozymes blocked rendered ineffectual
 
 Intended Results
 1) Once synthesized and injected into bree she'll become trait negative
 2) additional consequences (if any) - TBD
 
 Bree Trait Reference Points
 Theories concerning ribozyme function
 a)RNAse P related -tRNA cleavage
 b)splicosome related - intron/exon splicing
 c)Hammerhead related - telomere synthesis
 d)GlmS ribozyme related - fructose 6-phosphate pathway
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 this is what we think so far. and most of it is 99% sure on
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		| Samara Enthusiastic Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| To be honst, I think this solution was posted in haste. For example: 
 
 
 That's not actually a word...
 
 I believe that the word is "ineffectual"
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		| kellylen The Order of Denderah
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| fixed it. the point is that the foundation is there. the important parts are there. a word here or there will not... or well should not throw off the whole thing _________________
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		| anniid Lonely Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				| See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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		| ohpete Casual Observer
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| theres my copy. im too exauhsted to check it against yours for the moment kelly. ive got to get some food in me. but here it is as a back up. 
 The Bree Solution (that sounds REALLY important )
 Objectives:
 How to transform Bree from TRAIT: POSITIVE to TRAIT: NEGATIVE
 
 Given Facts:
 1) Bree's blood contains a special ribozyme mutated and unique only to her.
 2) The gene for said ribozyme has a regulatory hyper mutation that changes with every generation.
 3) A non-functioning mutated (?) ribozyme exists and manifests differently in every Hymn of One girl.
 4) This portion still functions but you cannot block it because the complimentary strands of RNA won't copy.
 
 Theoretical Solution
 1) Block the ribozyme in question by obtaining a sample of that same ribozyme in order to copy it.
 2) Create complimentary strand of RNA.
 3) Q.E.D. strand will bind to ribozyme and occlude its copy.
 
 Practical Solution
 1) Obtain blood sample of Bree.
 2) Synthesize complimentary strand of RNA
 3) Inject Bree with this complementary strand.
 4) Q.E.D. ribozymes blocked will be rendered ineffectual.
 
 Intended Results
 1) Once synthesized and injected into Bree she'll become trait negative
 2) Additional consequences (if any) - TBD
 
 Bree Trait Reference Points
 The steps concerning ribozyme function
 RNAse P related -tRNA cleavage
 Splicosome related - intron/exon splicing
 Hammerhead or Telomerase(?) related - telomere synthesis
 GlmS ribozyme related - fructose 6-phosphate pathway
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		| SivartAlappes Lonely Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  | See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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 1 hour and 41 minutes, actually.
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		| kellylen The Order of Denderah
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | SivartAlappes wrote: |  	  |  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  | See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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 1 hour and 41 minutes, actually.
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 actually i think its a lot less than that
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		| emerrs11 Lonely Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I agree Kelly! I am 99.99% sure. I trust these answers as much as I trust Neutragena! _________________
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		| SivartAlappes Lonely Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | kellylen wrote: |  	  |  	  | SivartAlappes wrote: |  	  |  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  | See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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 1 hour and 41 minutes, actually.
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 actually i think its a lot less than that
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 Well, the 1 hour and 41 minutes is the time between when Spencer posted the letter, and when you posted the solution.
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		| Aponi Devoted Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | kellylen wrote: |  	  |  	  | SivartAlappes wrote: |  	  |  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  | See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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 1 hour and 41 minutes, actually.
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 actually i think its a lot less than that
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 It was posted around 9:30, and by the time I was done with it enough to look at the clock it was around 11. Sounds about right to me
   
 And I have to say, WTG US! Puzzle-solving ftw
   Seriously, props to everyone who helped (Yes Kelly, even Travis XD)
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		| QtheC Enthusiastic Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | 3) Q.E.D. strand will bind to ribozyme and occlude its copy | 
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | 4) Q.E.D. ribozymes blocked rendered ineffectual | 
 
 I can neither confirm nor deny ever having E.D.'d, but I'm willing to try it if it will help the cause, and someone can provide me with step by step instructions and the necessary ribozymes.  As long as it is no harder than Sea-Monkeys, I should have or be able to improvise any laboratory equipment needed (tupperware, microwave, blender, power tools, hybrid bicycle, fire, nails, ziplock bags, Dr. Pepper, batteries).  Let me know if I have left anything important off the list - I might have it.
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		| anniid Lonely Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | kellylen wrote: |  	  |  	  | SivartAlappes wrote: |  	  |  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  | See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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 1 hour and 41 minutes, actually.
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 actually i think its a lot less than that
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 well his first post was at 7:30--something.
 then we finished at 9:17
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  |  	  | kellylen wrote: |  	  |  	  | SivartAlappes wrote: |  	  |  	  | anniid wrote: |  	  | See!? You should have posted that paper sooner... within 2-3 hours we had a solution. (It's correctness is um... relative...)
 Alright. Check our solution and give us another puzzle!!!
 Come on... you know you want to, Spencer.
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 1 hour and 41 minutes, actually.
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 actually i think its a lot less than that
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 well his first post was at 7:30--something.
 then we finished at 9:17
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 I am now cursing the fact that I have night class from 6-9:30
 gah.
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Look at us. we're so cool... |   |  
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				|  	  | thoughtssopoetic wrote: |  	  | 
 I am now cursing the fact that I have night class from 6-9:30
 gah.
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| wooooooord!  Kelly we posted that theory that i was talking about last night here http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12203.  Take a look and tell me what you think - things to remember - no double stranded rna (rNAi), just complementary and active strands.  Someone's already mentioned that it might be science fiction. _________________
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 The Bree Solution.
 http://one.revver.com/watch/330795
 
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