Lonelygirl15

[Lurker]

[kristy2520]

I have pretty much been thinking exactly what Lurker said, and posted my thoughts here, although they were quickly looked over because I only wrote a small paragraph. Just because Bree has called it a religion does not mean that the Creators are being inconsistent by having Gemma say it's not. It gets sort of frustrating that now all people seem to do on this forums is complain about the videos and assume the Creators are doing things all wrong. I understand that it is an interactive thing, that comments are important in potentially shaping how the story goes, but you also must remember that there have been signs for a long time that this isn't really a religion, like when Daniel calls it a cult. It isn't something that came out of nowhere. And when it works itself out, I hope that everyone on here doesn't assume it's because they threatened to never watch again if it doesn't.

[trunbuns]

watch 'a change in my life'

Bree: "the ceremonys a very big deal IN MY RELIGION"

this therefore would insinuate that it's a religous ceremony no?

'the order' are in charge of the ceremony, this we know, as they're the ones training bree, and they're the ones pissed now thats shes not participating.

fast forward to 'learning egyptian'

Gemma: "It's like a secret society; it's not a religion after all"
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Okay so thats not contradictory? that's not backtracking?

seriously watch 'a change in my life and tell me this wasn't a religous ceremony. I appreciate that thelema was never directly mentioned but the idea that the ceromony and order were not initially religous is preposterous and delusional.

and as for the 'opus die' reference' it might be a secret society but its a religous secret society.

'its not a religion after all' is the bit that get's more than the rest, it almost sounds like it's the creators saying 'yeh we started with religon but now....'

edited to avoid double posting

[spaciegirlreturn]

I think what they're trying to say is that Bree may have been told that it's a religion or led to believe that, but that doesn't mean that it is...or that this group is assosciated with Thelema (or whatever "religion" she is a part of) but is not, in and of itself, an actual religion.
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[trunbuns]

saying what i've said i do feel that lurkers post is by far the best post i've read arguing the point. that is the only possible explanation that wouldn't be a complete copout, and very well put across as well.

One of the main things that got to me was people flat-out denying that it was ever suggested that the ceremony was religious, or that it was linked to Thelema. It was, simple as that. But the Idea of a subset of a religion, a group or 'order', related to Thelema or whatever religion they originally had in mind, would be a lot easier to swallow.

To be honest I just feel that such a major point in the story was put across really lazily. this could have been explained in such a better manner than 'it turns out it wasn't a religion after all'. For instance why not have had Bree uncover this herself over a period of time rather than have someone smugly reveal it in such a flippant manner?

[missviolet]

I'm with Lurker.

But I also think that it's entirely possible that Gemma, who was in the commune and left, could possibly be trying to "dumb things down" a bit to explain, too. Like explaining that the Order isn't a religion, per se, but isn't a religion itself. Explaining the nuances of that would take a whole lot longer than a one minute video, y'know?

[robtomorrow]

The Order of Denderah, or The Order for short, is a secret society of Egyptologists from the University of Edinburgh where Brees mother studied, they formed a secret society because they have found a new archeological site in Egypt, where an important hieroglyph is located, that will explain some mysteries concerning King Tut, and they wanted to keep it a secret. They recognized in Bree via the Home Schooling Aggregate which they were monitoring a protégé. The injections were immunizations because they planned to take Bree to Egypt to visit the archeological site. The ceremony was a hazing event to induct Bree into the society. Lucy is one of the Egyptologists which is why she knew so much about the Zodiac of Denderah. The Deacons is a cryptic name for members of the society of Egyptologists, they adopted the name because they meet in secret at the Deacons House Café in Edinburgh. Thelema was a ruse to lure Bree into taking a interest in Egyptian mythology. The maps on Lucy’s computer are places where other protégés live that they plan to take on their field trip to Egypt. One of which happens to be an Inuit Eskimo.

That's the best I could do to make all the pieces fit. LOL

[omegawoman]

[Ziola]

[NikkiBowerReport]

[Lurker]

[chanda]

[house]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel like it's time for a new Daniel/Bree video. Wonder what they've been up to?

[omegawoman]

[house]