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[PUZZLE][SOLVED] Language Lessons Part 2: BB
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diastres
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're all frustrated, so the chat had me ask for another hint..

I wrote:

I don't know where you're from, but none of the blockbusters we've checked have the movie. Perhaps there's something more you could tell me?

<3dia<3

She wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/y855kt




It leads to The Sure Thing on walmart.com. Jerk.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiltingwindward wrote:
I haven't looked at the script for "The Sure Thing" yet, but I've been looking at the first line of the clue: I/II [B-1] 0/0

Clearly, [B-1] is a value we haven't had before, and requires some adaptation from our normal method with the decoder ring. I've been thinking that it's a very simple math problem; a command to subtract 1 from B every time you use the ring to find a character.

So, for the first time you use it, the value for [B-1]=F. The second time, [B-1]-1=4. The third time, [B-1-1]-1=6, and so on. You end up moving counter-clockwise around the outer ring of the decoder.

I have no idea if this is correct, and we'll need Y: before we can test it, but there it is.


B minus 1 in hex would be A, yes?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

be right backwith the dvd, folks...posting this from the line at bllockbuster now. thank goodness for my treo.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if you all are really my Brother's friends, I know he owns it plus he has my copy. so what's the holdup?

On 12/17/06, language lessons <language.lessons@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Reiner had quite a streak going there from Spinal Tap to the Sure Thing to Stand By Me to the Princess Bride.

how can they not teach that?

http://tinyurl.com/y855kt

just as cheap anywhere else, I'd imagine.

xoxox,

T


On 12/17/06, I wrote:
A language with no words? I'd be better off dead, than trying to learn that. The only people I know with genuine ESP are Miss Cleo and John Cusack! Oh T, how you torment me...film majors are no good at decoder rings Sad, nor do we have classes on 80's movies. Though we should! Ever thought of being a resident professor?


warmly,
Quizzoc
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone else listen to the clip and think John Cusack was in league with the watchers? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I'm watching the scene right now. It takes place at a swimming pool. On the wall is a big banner that says, "HAPPY BiRTHDAY COACH OPPEWALL!"


I'm working on recording it....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone try something along "success"?

I thought the int'l language was MATH
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

math is a universal language, the international language is love though
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090103/quotes

link to scene
maybe some words will stick out
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Scene, btw, on the DVD is Scene selection #6, The Pity Appraoch.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More from that scene...

Could it be the time stamps???


:13:01
5:30, dinner. 6:00, calculus.

:13:07
7:00, news. 7:30, shower.

:13:10
7:45, phone call. 8:00?

:13:13
8:00, I don't know.
That's when I rearrange my sock drawer.

:13:17
-Do you want me to help you, or not?
-I do.

:13:20
I was just kidding, there.

:13:22
-8:00.
-Okay.

:13:26
See you then.

:13:29
-Where?
-McKenzie Hall.

:13:32
Great!

:13:40
It's Friday night!

:13:52
"I'm a freshman
at a small Northeastern college.

:13:55
"l never thought those letters were true,
until a few days ago...

:13:58
"l had an experience that changed my mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on FallingIntoSin's review of the scene, words we've had Shifty(and others) try in the chat:

OPPEWALL
COACH OPPEWALL
OPPE
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
HAPPYBDAY
HAPPYBiRTHDAY
BiRTHDAY
PITY
MAN
EXIT
YES
SINK
SWIM
FALL
5FT
3FT
POOL
MUSIC
FOOTBALL
FRIDAY
DATE
STERLING
SPEEDOS
GOGGLES
DC
CUSACK
ENGLISH
INTELLECTUALS
DROWN
SWIMSUIT
SEX
WAVE
METAPHOR
SHALLOW

Bethy, anything to add?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try MEN...not MAN.

They walk by the men's dressing room, and painted on the wall it says:

Quote:
MEN
MEN
MEN



Other words to try:

STERLING
pity
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the ones I've tried so far for Inner Key:
Quote:
WAVE
METAPHOR
SEX
1217
SWIMSUIT
INTELLECTUALS
GIBSON
GIB
DROWN
ENGLISH
CUSACK
DC
OPPE
3FT
5FT
GOGGLES
HAPPYBiRTHDAYCOACHOPPEWALL
HAPPYBiRTHDAYCOACHOPPEWALL!
HAPPYBiRTHDAY
BiRTHDAY
MENMENMEN
MEN
BLEECHERS
SPEEDO
SPEEDOS
STERLING
DATE
FOOTBALL
NAKED
CAKE
COACH
PENTHOUSE
RED
COACHOPPEWALL
YES
FALL
FALLING
OPPEWALL
PITY
MAN
TREAD
SWIM
POOL
HAPPYBDAY
HAPPY BIRTHDAY


What I'm trying for Outer Key:
Quote:
BF46CE19A7D5382BF4
B2835D7A91
DC
B1
A
B
F
1


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifty wrote:
Since there's been some confusion, I decided to write up a little walkthrough explaining how to use: Sparky's Decoder Ring and what to put in the boxes!

Now we need an "Inner Key." The inner key will be whatever "Y" is and can only contain 1-9 a-f. For this example, let's try "FRIDAY."

Translate FRIDAY to hex and you get:
Code:
FRIDAY = 46 52 49 44 41 59


Put 465249444159 into the "Inner Key" box, and hit decode.


I added a new feature. Instead of having to translate FRIDAY and put in 465249444159, if you put it in quotes it will automatically translate. So just type in "FRIDAY". "PIE" example from AA
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