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Melisa
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: I JUST GOT A LIGHTBULB. |
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What if Bree and Julia are related? 
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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wowwwwwwwww
that would make sense actually, bc bree's parents aren't her real parents, i bet julia's aren't either.
so suppose there's one couple that has the genetics to produce the perfect ceremony girl.
ahhhh that would make my life
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| cbizzle44 wrote: | wowwwwwwwww
that would make sense actually, bc bree's parents aren't her real parents, i bet julia's aren't either.
so suppose there's one couple that has the genetics to produce the perfect ceremony girl.
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Yep, there are a few of us *looks around* (I don't know, I may be a lone survivor - other than Trainer) Who actually believe the ceremony girls are genetically engineered clones - which would make here parents surrogate parents - as distinguished from adoptive parents. I hope this is the case. I totally love the possiblilities of where a storyline like this can go. It would also give reason to all these girls having such similar characteristics
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| they do sorta look alike..not clone like but ...alike |
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Luminous
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Actually, because clones receive their genetic material from both the chromosone donar, and the mitochondria of the egg, clones are not identical. Here's an excerpt from an article I read which explains (sorry, I lost my source reference).
Reproductive Cloning
In a process called "somatic cell nuclear transfer" (SCNT), scientists transfer genetic material from the nucleus of a donor adult cell to an egg whose nucleus, and thus its genetic material, has been removed. The reconstructed egg containing the DNA from a donor cell must be treated with chemicals or electric current in order to stimulate cell division. Once the cloned embryo reaches a suitable stage, it is transferred to the uterus of a female host where it continues to develop until birth.
Animals created using nuclear transfer technology are not truly identical clones of the donor animal. Only the clone's chromosomal or nuclear DNA is the same as the donor. Some of the clone's genetic materials come from the mitochondria in the cytoplasm of the enucleated egg. Mitochondria, which are organelles that serve as power sources to the cell, contain their own short segments of DNA.
(See what I learn by playing Facility J?  )
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Luminous wrote: | Actually, because clones receive their genetic material from both the chromosone donar, and the mitochondria of the egg, clones are not identical. Here's an excerpt from an article I read which explains (sorry, I lost my source reference).
Reproductive Cloning
In a process called "somatic cell nuclear transfer" (SCNT), scientists transfer genetic material from the nucleus of a donor adult cell to an egg whose nucleus, and thus its genetic material, has been removed. The reconstructed egg containing the DNA from a donor cell must be treated with chemicals or electric current in order to stimulate cell division. Once the cloned embryo reaches a suitable stage, it is transferred to the uterus of a female host where it continues to develop until birth.
Animals created using nuclear transfer technology are not truly identical clones of the donor animal. Only the clone's chromosomal or nuclear DNA is the same as the donor. Some of the clone's genetic materials come from the mitochondria in the cytoplasm of the enucleated egg. Mitochondria, which are organelles that serve as power sources to the cell, contain their own short segments of DNA.
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While the clones aren't exactly alike, the difference should only show up in the female line, if I read what that says correctly. Well, actually, I don't. What it's saying is that both clones will be different on a microscopic level but that for all intents and purposes they will only look different if they are female.
What this means is we can make as many Daniel Beasts and Jonases as we want! Two for each of us, girls!! Whoot!
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| That would be funny. There's a couple of Nobel prize winners humping like bunnies and making little ceremony girls, shipping them all off to different families. |
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The clone would be identical to the donor besides for a handful of genes (those originating from the mictochondria, not the nucleus...a vast minority). It is likely that the clone would appear fairly identical to the donor.
And I do like the idea about the ceremony girls being clones, perhaps wanted for some unique genetic feature that they possess. |
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I like that idea, clones or related or whatnot...
Good lightbulb Makes sense with what we know about Bree's 'parents' |
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| nowherepixie wrote: | I like that idea, clones or related or whatnot...
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Oh, please, no.  No clones. No remarkably-coincidental blood relations.
This series is already teetering on the edge of believability (in fact, many forumites think it's already fallen over the cliff into la-la land). If Bree and Jules are related -- other than both having the blood enzyme or whatever-it-is that makes them qualify for doing the ceremony -- we'll have undeniably strayed into Bobby-Ewing-in-the-shower territory. And I shall scream. Loudly and long. |
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nowherepixie
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Hmm. Fair point. But there must be something that links these girlies. |
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| nowherepixie wrote: | | Hmm. Fair point. But there must be something that links these girlies. |
Ummmm... That would be a great big, bent on dominating the world, evil, controlling, Illuminati-like organization called the Order. Alex got handed a script, just like before.
Order: OK, here's what we want you to say, tell them there's another girl.
Alex: But there isn't another girl. There can't be. We only put the (fill in blank) into one girl. We only made the scar on one girl--Bree.
Order: I know that. You know that. But she doesn't know that!
Alex: Ohhh! You want me to lie!
Order: Yes. Of course.
Alex: Cool. So is there another girl?
Order: (slapping their collective heads) No! We're just going to put this decoy out there. We're going to pretend. You understand pretend? We'll pretend we want that girl, and Bree will willingly give herself up to do the ceremony.
Alex: But why would she willingly do the ceremony instead of a pretend girl? ...
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Oooooh.
Yeh.
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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hmmmmmm.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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seriously, what i think links these girls are "the meridians." of course i have no idea what that really means, but it is consistent with the information daniel found on lucy's computer (the other locations, and julia is at one of them), the proving longitude wrong video, and with aunt alex's monologue about her mother (it was her mother, right?)
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be that as it may, i say bring on the clone theories.
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