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impulse Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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My wife tells me, this tune stays in one octave
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The puppetmaster says your wife is smart and you are one lucky man. Now look at how many notes are used in this tune, and how they are used. _________________ Gaj eyga gaj lpsptk plp s kmqz qswr gaj wlf vmms nsaw. |
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stingray Casual Observer
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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impulse wrote: |
The puppetmaster says your wife is smart and you are one lucky man. Now look at how many notes are used in this tune, and how they are used. |
Very lucky indeed. I can only hope my son gets all his talents from her
Thanks for the hints! |
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QtheC Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry I got a little frustrated. And thanks for the links/hints. It's me, it's not you. |
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impulse Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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QtheC wrote: | It's me, it's not you. |
That's what my ex-girl friend told me when she left.... _________________ Gaj eyga gaj lpsptk plp s kmqz qswr gaj wlf vmms nsaw. |
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QtheC Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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QtheC wrote: | Emaj
^ EA EE FA Emaj
^ AB GB FC GB Emaj
* FF BE EE FA FF CG GG BA Emaj
^ FE EE GB BB BC FC Emaj
Taking the notes pairwise (which may or may not be correct, especially for the third line - so that's one degree of uncertainty already), and just counting the pairs that appear we have something like this: Code: |
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first E F# G# A B C# D#
E ^^* . . ^ . . .
F# ^ ** . ^* . ^^ .
G# . . * . ^^^ . .
A . . . . ^
B * . . * ^ ^ .
C# . . * . . . .
D# . . . . . . .
where
^ = a pair from lines 1, 2, or 4 of the code
* = a pair from line 3 of the code (since it may be not be correct)
. = no pair of this type found in the code
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so, there the message is not long enough to be subject to frequency analysis, but we can get an idea of the set of pairs used, and notice EE and G#B are the most common codes in the small sample that we have. No D# appear at all in the code, either as the first letter or the second of a pair.
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36 characters (A to Z, 0 to 9) = 6 x 6
= {E, F#, G#, A, B, C#} x {E, F#, G#, A, B, C#}
So a possible solution is to map the 36 characters to this 6x6 grid in a way that gives us a result.
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first E F# G# A B C# D#
E a b c d e f .
F# g h i j k l .
G# m n o p q r .
A s t u v w x .
B y z 0 1 2 3 .
C# 4 5 6 7 8 9 .
D# . . . . . . .
EA EE FA / AB GB FC GB / FF BE EE FA FF CG GG BA / FE EE GB BB BC FC
= daj wqlq hyajh6o1 gaq23l
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first E F# G# A B C# D#
E 0 1 2 3 4 5 .
F# 6 7 8 9 a b .
G# c d e f g h .
A i j k l m n .
B o p q r s t .
C# u v w x y z .
D# . . . . . . .
EA EE FA / AB GB FC GB / FF BE EE FA FF CG GG BA / FE EE GB BB BC FC
= 309 mgbg 7o097wer 60gstb
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Variations starting with numbering or lettering vertically rather than horizontally don't look much more promising.... oops, yes they do
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first E F# G# A B C# D#
E a g m s y 4 .
F# b h n t z 5 .
G# c i o u 0 6 .
A d j p v 1 7 .
B e k q w 2 8 .
C# f l r x 3 9 .
D# . . . . . . .
EA EE FA / AB GB FC GB / FF BE EE FA FF CG GG BA / FE EE GB BB BC FC
= sat 1050 heathrow ba0385
note: numbering order could be 1-9, 0 rather than 0 to 9, then
EA EE FA / AB GB FC GB / FF BE EE FA FF CG GG BA / FE EE GB BB BC FC
= sat 2161 heathrow ba1496
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So either :
Saturday 10:50 Heathrow British Air flight 385
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Saturday 21:61 Heathrow British Air flight 1496
If we can figure out which one is correct, we will know the code solution.
EDIT: According to www.britishairways.com there is a flight BA1496 on Saturday July 21 with an estimated departure time of 20:20 from LHR (Heathrow, London) to GLR (Glascow).
Code: | solution:
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first E F# G# A B C# D#
E a g m s y 5 .
F# b h n t z 6 .
G# c i o u 1 7 .
A d j p v 2 8 .
B e k q w 3 9 .
C# f l r x 4 0 .
D# . . . . . . .
EA EE FA / AB GB FC GB / FF BE EE FA FF CG GG BA / FE EE GB BB BC FC
= sat 2161 heathrow ba1496
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stingray Casual Observer
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Great job QtheC!
That was a tough puzzle! It would have been cool to meet the main characters! |
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deagol Thor's Hammer
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QtheC Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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okay, I'm ready for the next puzzle now.
Gah! Deagol is right, it should have been ba0285 not ba0385, and I assume San Francisco makes more sense than Glascow as the destination since we see Berkeley in the video.
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deagol Thor's Hammer
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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QtheC wrote: | okay, I'm ready for the next puzzle now. |
They could use some help here, and it could be londonfiles-related.
Good job Q. Sorry for my terse replies: it's me, not you. |
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stingray Casual Observer
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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According to my quick search, 1496 would be a very unusual flight number for British Airways.
I am leaning towards 285 myself, becuase BA seems to use 2xx range mostly. |
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deagol Thor's Hammer
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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QtheC wrote: | okay, I'm ready for the next puzzle now.
Gah! Deagol is right, it should have been ba0285 not ba0385, and I assume San Francisco makes more sense than Glascow as the destination since we see Berkeley in the video. |
Also, 21:61 is quite an odd time to fly. |
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impulse Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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You see that was easy!
Well, there was no one at the airport on Saturday to welcome Kris and Mary. _________________ Gaj eyga gaj lpsptk plp s kmqz qswr gaj wlf vmms nsaw. |
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deagol Thor's Hammer
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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impulse wrote: | You see that was easy!
Well, there was no one at the airport on Saturday to welcome Kris and Mary. |
Maybe someone did go but opted to remain unseen. |
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chershaytoute Moderator
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 1877 Location: Oregon with an ocean view...across the neighbors' cow pasture, wow!
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah! Didn't they see the pretty sign I colored? <chuckle>
(as if I'd've ever been able to work out a code that took these guys this long...with hints...right!) _________________ Diane, or cher, or even chershaytoute, but "Hey, you!" works, too...
WWggD - let's make the Breeniverse a better place to live...
Thanks to giddeanx for the coolest personal glue stick ever! |
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