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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: just terrible Reply with quote

So, I know it's all fake, and I will admit I am hooked, but I was thinking. Before I started watching these videos I didn't know who Crowley was (I know I lead a sheltered life) or a whole lot about these sorts of religions. Most of you fan base is young. You should think about the ideas you are putting in their ever so immpressionable minds. This stuff has me sort of freaked out, especially the carrieiswatching stuff, and I am 25 and know it's fake. I know it makes it sooooooooooo much more interesting this way, but these are serious ideas here.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: just terrible Reply with quote

christie wrote:
Before I started watching these videos I didn't know who Crowley was (I know I lead a sheltered life) or a whole lot about these sorts of religions. Most of you fan base is young. You should think about the ideas you are putting in their ever so immpressionable minds.


Because they might grow up to do a lot of yoga, write a lot of books about Jewish folklore, and scare British tabloids by declaring themselves the Antichrist for fun? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are coming at this from a very Ethnocentric perspective. Crowley at the very least did not think of himself as evil...Read Moonchild(which I am right now) and you will see this. I assume you are a christian..so.. Doesn't the bible say "Know thy Enemy?" How can you know by sticking your head in the sand.
What's funny is we have Thelemites bitching their religion is gonna be portrayed as the bad guy...and christians are bitching for it being portrayed at all. Grow the Hell up people and LEARN!.. If you are not weak minded..it Can NOT damage you and gives you knowledge to fight it if indeed it was bad. Learning about something is ALWAYS a plus.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lordgreystoke422 wrote:
You are coming at this from a very Ethnocentric perspective.


Especially considering all of the ethnic traditions that inspired Crowley.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just thinking about the line from the bible about"Not suffering a witch to live"
and I thought... with the things Jesus is reputed to have done he would have definitely been considered a witch..
We know how that story ended up.

So...at least THEY are consistent...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lordgreystoke422 wrote:
I was just thinking about the line from the bible about"Not suffering a witch to live"
and I thought... with the things Jesus is reputed to have done he would have definitely been considered a witch..
We know how that story ended up.

So...at least THEY are consistent...


I am being ethnocentric...
In case you don't know

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Jesus was crucified and killed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lordgreystoke422 wrote:
Doesn't the bible say "Know thy Enemy?" How can you know by sticking your head in the sand.


I don't know if the Christian Bible says that, but Sun Tzu did... I know, it's easy to get the Bible and Art of War confused with all the violence and all... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wintermute wrote:
lordgreystoke422 wrote:
Doesn't the bible say "Know thy Enemy?" How can you know by sticking your head in the sand.


I don't know if the Christian Bible says that, but Sun Tzu did... I know, it's easy to get the Bible and Art of War confused with all the violence and all... Wink

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But according to the Christian Coalition, Sun Tzu was a good Christian.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew someone would correct me....it's those THY's that got me.....
I wasn't sure..but took a stab...notice all the violence in the way I talk?

but that right there makes a point about ignorance...
My ignorance would not have been able to be expelled if I had not just exposed myself to others and their Ideas..
I know most christian priests and pastors are pretty heavily trained in comparative religions. How can you witness to someone about your faith if you are ignorant about what another truly has to say. Sure against the basic believer with very little knowledge you can get by..but against an "opponent" that knows your religion and their own..you will look like an uneducated cur and what kind of witness would that make.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, you guys are part of the "show" Isn't this something along the line when "Bree" said somthing like, her religion is personal and it's not understood by Daniel and maybe even other people. Because it is DIFFERENT. Get it?? This is a common issue? Commenting on who's religion is right.

What two things should people avoid having conversations about?? Religion and Politcs. Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, how did this board know me?? I didn't even sign up. I thought it was going to come out as quest or something. LOL I was too lazy to sign up a new account. LMAO.

Maybe I did in my sleep one night, or maybe it was "WITCHCRAFT" ugh!!! Evil or Very Mad Laughing Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read before, but don't take this as my final word because I haven't studied crowly latly, but that he was a very unmoral person. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
I really need to look him up again.
Yeah, just saying.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alimaria wrote:
he was a very unmoral person. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
I really need to look him up again.
Yeah, just saying.


...OK
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sfonzarelli wrote:
Alimaria wrote:
he was a very unmoral person. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
I really need to look him up again.
Yeah, just saying.


...OK


ha ha. seriously.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alimaria wrote:
I have read before, but don't take this as my final word because I haven't studied crowly latly, but that he was a very unmoral person. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
I really need to look him up again.
Yeah, just saying.


un‧mor‧al  /ʌnˈmɔrəl, -ˈmɒr-/
–adjective
neither moral nor immoral; amoral; nonmoral: Nature is unmoral.

Oh the fine lines.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"
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