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bosquelito
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well, as for meter (am i using that right), the 5 line has an extra "beat" because of inherit. If we stick with "tore" or "rote", line 6 matches the other lines but doesn't match (though it flows) with line 5. "i try to hide to the " adds the extra syllable/beat.
it doesn't have to be plural as it's talking about a singular person that has an internal and external beast.
However, meter might be best preserved by using "absorbs". I still think logically "bares" fits with the tragic concept.
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| Olympus321 wrote: | | mobilesskwrking wrote: | | as far as the absorbs and bares question, i think absorbs works better..."bares both's sin" seems strange grammatically...wouldn't it be "bares both's sins" (plural sins)... |
Not if they both commited the same sin. |
Ya...I'm getting tired...and I'm making mistakes...I think I better go to bed then.
Once you guys are done here, the WHERE thread could use help. I tried a bit, but I'm too tired. We are really interested in finding alternatives to lines 3 & 4.
Just in case you still want to solve something after this 
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Final solution then? Votes?
[[Cassieiswatching (Clue 22)|'''Clue #22''']] - Morse Code found on October 2, 2006 ~10:52pm PST
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This message was found on the page for cassieiswatching at YouTube.com:
"WHY
codes into serapis
-.-. .... .- -. .-- .- - - -. . -- -.-. .- -.. . -. ..- -.. . -. - .... .-. -.-- ... - ..- .-. ... . --..--
-.-. .- -... .- ... -.- . - -.-. .... ... .-- ..- .-. . ...- .. ... . .-- -. --- .-. ... . .-.-.-
-.-. .... .- .... .-- .- - - - . -.- -. . -.-- -... . .- . .... .-- .... .. ... - - - .. -.
-... . .- .... . .-- .... .. ... - - --- - - ..- .- -... -... . - .... --- ... ... ... .-. .. -. .-.-.-
-.. . . .... .... .. -.-- .. -. - .-. .. - --- - ..-. .- -. - ... .-. . .... .- -- . --..--
-.. . . .... .... .. - - --- .. - - --- .-. -.-- ..-. .- ... .-. .... - .... . ... .- -- . .-.-.-
HOW"
Morse Code Translator reveals the following from the code above:
"CHANWATTNEMCADENUDENTHRYSTURSE,
CABASKETCHSWUREVISEWNORSE.
CHAHWATTTEKNEYBEAEHWHISTTTIN
BEAHEWHISTTOTTUABBETHOSSSRIN.
DEEHHIYINTRITOTFANTSREHAME,
DEEHHITTOITTORYFASRHTHESAME."
SOLUTION: (still pending)
CHANWATTNEM | CADENUDENTHRYSTURSE,
What men can't | understand they curse,
CABASKETCHSWUR EVISEWNORS.
what curses back | is even worse.
CHAHWATTTEKNEY | BEAEHWHISTTTIN
when they attack the beast within
BEAHEWHISTTOTTU | ABBETHOSSSRIN.
the beast without | absorbs the sin / bares both's sin.
DEEHHIYINTRITOT | FANTSREHAME,
die to inherit thy | father's name,
DEEHHITTOITTORY | FASRHTHESAME.
it tore to hide thy | father's shame.
tore/rote it to hide thy | father's shame.
i try to hide to the father's shame.
Iamb
Line 4:
Meter versus concepts
Concept of absorption of sin versus baring of a sin
Must end with "sin", the ends of lines were given.
Line 6:
rote: memorize, mechanical, methodical like a hidden language
tore: destroyed something
try to hide to the father's shame: which delivers a worse agony for father
As for rhythm/meter, the 5th line has an extra "beat" pair because of inherit.
If we stick with "tore" or "rote", line 6 matches the other lines but doesn't match
(though it flows) with line 5. "i try to hide to the " adds the extra needed syllable/beat pair.
Votes?
Could we edit the first post, or some such?
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curriguy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: |
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can we just say it's "It tore to hide thy father's shame" and call it a night. I can't make anything sensible out of these letters. how is everyone else doing?
edit: just saw the last post. nm |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| curriguy wrote: | can we just say it's "It tore to hide thy father's shame" and call it a night. I can't make anything sensible out of these letters. how is everyone else doing?
edit: just saw the last post. nm |
I've been leaning towards that for a while. I'm happier with that than anything else. |
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curriguy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:30 am Post subject: |
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yeah me too.
it would imply the the person in question's "good name" had torn because of the "shame"
also, it fits the meter.
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Olympus321
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| curriguy wrote: | yeah me too.
it would imply the the person in question's "good name" had torn because of the "shame" |
I pretty much agree. Can't think of anything better.
As much as I would love to help further, I do better with audio and visual clues than text... and I'm tired as hell
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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SO:
CHANWATTNEM | CADENUDENTHRYSTURSE,
What men can't | understand they curse,
CABASKETCHSWUR EVISEWNORS.
what curses back | is even worse.
CHAHWATTTEKNEY | BEAEHWHISTTTIN
when they attack | the beast within
BEAHEWHISTTOTTU | ABBETHOSSSRIN.
the beast without | absorbs the sin.
DEEHHIYINTRITOT | FANTSREHAME,
they do it in their | fathers name,
DEEHHITTOITTORY | FASRHTHESAME.
they do it to their | fathers shame.
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bosquelito
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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If cool with you guys, leaving it to the rest of the people to study.
Options and general reasoning is up in the LGPedia, too.
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curriguy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: |
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my opinions:
rote it to hide thy father's shame
-the word rote is too obscure for a cassie-poem
i tore it to hide the father's shame
-it makes no sense that it would change to first person MID-couplet
tore it to hide thy father's shame
-this isn't really grammatical. also, doesn't fit the meter..."tore" should be an unstressed syllable.
it tore to hide thy father's shame
bingo. fits the meter. grammatical. works with the couplet. |
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| pcbbc wrote: | SO:
CHANWATTNEM | CADENUDENTHRYSTURSE,
What men can't | understand they curse
CABASKETCHSWUR EVISEWNORS.
what curses back | is even worse.
CHAHWATTTEKNEY | BEAEHWHISTTTIN
when they attack the beast within
BEAHEWHISTTOTTU | ABBETHOSSSRIN.
the beast / without | absorbs the sin.
DEEHHIYINTRITOT | FANTSREHAME,
they do it in their | fathers name
DEEHHITTOITTORY | FASRHTHESAME.
they do it to their | fathers shame. |
i think you've got it! great job! |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| curriguy wrote: | it tore to hide thy father's shame
bingo. fits the meter. grammatical. works with the couplet. |
Good but see above - Sorry? |
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curriguy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: |
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OH SNAP. i think PC solved it!
nevermind my lesser-of-all-evils post. let's use HIS way. |
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curriguy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| pcbbc wrote: | | curriguy wrote: | it tore to hide thy father's shame
bingo. fits the meter. grammatical. works with the couplet. |
Good but see above - Sorry? |
totally agreed! good job!  |
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bosquelito
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: |
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gah. yeah. pcbbc. looks good.
this is my last edit of the LGPedia on this though.
 
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