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| covedweller wrote: | If Baudelaire was right, maybe it means that evil wants us to believe that it doesn't exist so that it can work while being ignored.
Then the other two not acknowledging it would work in evil's favor.
Given the Jewish outlook on evil though, it is interesting that you don't hear about Jews being possessed by demons or anything. Ignoring that seems to have worked in their favor! |
Hah! true.
The Christians personify evil as a way to justify immoral acts and behavior - make it more tangible. The Devil is personified in the same way we personify God, which also allows God to seem even more... well ... "good".
I dunno, I am too tired for religious philosophisizzing. |
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| prep him wrote: | | covedweller wrote: | If Baudelaire was right, maybe it means that evil wants us to believe that it doesn't exist so that it can work while being ignored.
Then the other two not acknowledging it would work in evil's favor.
Given the Jewish outlook on evil though, it is interesting that you don't hear about Jews being possessed by demons or anything. Ignoring that seems to have worked in their favor! |
Hah! true.
The Christians personify evil as a way to justify immoral acts and behavior - make it more tangible. The Devil is personified in the same way we personify God, which also allows God to seem even more... well ... "good".
I dunno, I am too tired for religious philosophisizzing. |
You also have to remember that there is no concept of Hell in Judiasm.
See people? MINE is the forgiving God! :-p
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| covedweller wrote: | If Baudelaire was right, maybe it means that evil wants us to believe that it doesn't exist so that it can work while being ignored.
Then the other two not acknowledging it would work in evil's favor.
Given the Jewish outlook on evil though, it is interesting that you don't hear about Jews being possessed by demons or anything. Ignoring that seems to have worked in their favor! |
1st bolded : Alas, never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake. [Napoleon]
2nd bolded: "the neutral are the only ones to side themselves with evil"
these seem to come to mind
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According to wikipedia...Baudelaire wrote aobut poe...ADD POE HINDER VILIFICATION...any connection?
"Baudelaire had learned English in his childhood, and Gothic novels, such as Lewis's The Monk, became some of his favorite reading matter. In 1846 and 1847 he became acquainted with the works of Edgar Allan Poe, in which he found tales and poems which had, he claimed, long existed in his own brain but never taken shape. From this time till 1865 he was largely occupied with his translated versions of Poe's works, which were widely praised. These were published as Histoires extraordinaires ("Extraordinary stories") (1852), Nouvelles histoires extraordinaires ("New extraordinary stories") (1857), Aventures d'Arthur Gordon Pym (see The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym), Eureka, and Histoires grotesques et sérieuses ("Grotesque and serious stories") (1865). Two essays on Poe are to be found in his Oeuvres complètes ("Complete works") (vols. v. and vi.)."
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Add Poe - expose or express evil
Hinder Vilification - stop or slow down evil?
I think that the idea that Ramdam and Abenezra didn't believe in the existence of evil, but Baudeliare did seems to be the right way to analyze this, but where will it lead to? What does "Attention leads to invocation" mean? |
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prep him
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still not sure how, or if, warpylol fits into this, but he made one comment on one Lonelygirl15 video ("Poor Pluto").
He says:
warpylol (1 month ago)
Tada, you're wrong. She's probably a Gnostic |
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Update: 8:50 AM east coast time
Cassie Does Not R.I.P. (Rest In Peace)
October 20, 2006, 10:09 PM
2/5: Attention leads to invocation.
A psychic vampire feeds off of your energy and attention. To stop it is simple: Ignore it.
Maimonides and Abraham ibn Ezra denied the existence of demons. Their philosophies became a part of the mainstream Jewish faith regarding the subject.
Perhaps this was the right approach. i.e. "To ignore evil is to deny it any power over you."
However, Charles Baudelaire suggested that, "The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist."
What if he was indeed correct? |
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So maybe Cassie is the "psychic vampire" and if we pay attention to her, we are helping her (or conjuring up her spirit).
So are we supposed to pretend this "psychic vampire" doesn't exist, or are we supposed to give it our attention?? |
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| surrealisticpill wrote: | So maybe Cassie is the "psychic vampire" and if we pay attention to her, we are helping her (or conjuring up her spirit).
So are we supposed to pretend this "psychic vampire" doesn't exist, or are we supposed to give it our attention?? |
In many respects, people began to turn away from CiW after she entered SL. When the ceremony came and went without a hitch and CiW did nothing, people abandoned her even more. Cassie has less and less people to feed off of every day.
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| twjaniak wrote: | | In many respects, people began to turn away from CiW after she entered SL. When the ceremony came and went without a hitch and CiW did nothing, people abandoned her even more. Cassie has less and less people to feed off of every day. |
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| surrealisticpill wrote: | | So maybe Cassie is the "psychic vampire" and if we pay attention to her, we are helping her (or conjuring up her spirit). |
the idea of "psychic vampire" is also referenced in "Disclosure Cassie: We Are They" at the end where it flickers "Not All Vampires Suck Blood." which is a reference to an entry in the Satanic Bible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible
"LaVey defines a psychic vampire as one who attempts to psychologically manipulate others by systematically playing the victim"
it also goes on to say "LaVey advises that such people are psychologically draining, hence the term "psychic vampire", and should be dealt with mercilessly and discarded before they are permitted to take control of the lives of vital individuals."
what stuck out most to me was 'vital individuals' which made me automatically think of Bree.
even with this said, we're still left to decide to we ignore her or pay more attention to her? |
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| horcruxes wrote: | | surrealisticpill wrote: | | So maybe Cassie is the "psychic vampire" and if we pay attention to her, we are helping her (or conjuring up her spirit). |
the idea of "psychic vampire" is also referenced in "Disclosure Cassie: We Are They" at the end where it flickers "Not All Vampires Suck Blood." which is a reference to an entry in the Satanic Bible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible
"LaVey defines a psychic vampire as one who attempts to psychologically manipulate others by systematically playing the victim"
it also goes on to say "LaVey advises that such people are psychologically draining, hence the term "psychic vampire", and should be dealt with mercilessly and discarded before they are permitted to take control of the lives of vital individuals."
what stuck out most to me was 'vital individuals' which made me automatically think of Bree.
even with this said, we're still left to decide to we ignore her or pay more attention to her? |
Sounds like Bree's mom's method of dealing with Hume. |
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| has cassie done anything recently that we could even be paying attention to? maybe we can expect more from her soon? |
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2/5: Attention leads to invocation.
A psychic vampire feeds off of your energy and attention. To stop it is simple: Ignore it.
Maimonides and Abraham ibn Ezra denied the existence of demons. Their philosophies became a part of the mainstream Jewish faith regarding the subject.
Perhaps this was the right approach. i.e. "To ignore evil is to deny it any power over you."
However, Charles Baudelaire suggested, "The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist."
What if he was indeed correct?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Video desc changed. |
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| Xrynaem wrote: | 2/5: Attention leads to invocation.
A psychic vampire feeds off of your energy and attention. To stop it is simple: Ignore it.
Maimonides and Abraham ibn Ezra denied the existence of demons. Their philosophies became a part of the mainstream Jewish faith regarding the subject.
Perhaps this was the right approach. i.e. "To ignore evil is to deny it any power over you."
However, Charles Baudelaire suggested, "The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist."
What if he was indeed correct? |
Yeah I got it right! Awesome! |
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