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[Spec] TACHYON/OPAPHID - "THELEMA IS 1 OF ?"
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziola wrote:
Here's a couple of thoughts I've had (stand back-these don't happen often Very Happy )

Her religion is definitely a mish-mash of all of the religions we've been looking into. Any other way would risk offending people and I don't think thats a risk the creators want to take. Like its been said before, they take some of their cues from us, so why wouldn't this be one of those times?

Daniel is the "he" they are talking about. Unless its Owen, and I don't think he'd mind being followed.

We SHOULD NOT contact and/or warn Daniel in any way. Op will find out and you will be considered a traitor.

And therefore you will not escape the rewards of your actions, right?



We should contact Daniel because it is really hilarious when that dude is scared! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We should contact Daniel because it is really hilarious when that dude is scared! Laughing


Yeah, but then he gets all snotty-nosed/Blair-Witchy and it drives me crazy. I just want to hand him a tissue!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziola wrote:
covedweller wrote:

We should contact Daniel because it is really hilarious when that dude is scared! Laughing


Yeah, but then he gets all snotty-nosed/Blair-Witchy and it drives me crazy. I just want to hand him a tissue!


or white strips. Laughing

err. was that mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladron121 wrote:
1 of ? i think just refers to one of an unknown number of things. Its just the first thing.


I agree. I think it's a reference to a series of communications Tach intends to send to Brother on this topic.

Based on Brother's VM of last Friday, I've been kind of working under the assumption that both Tach and Brother have been cut off (temporarily or permanently) by their organization, until they either decide to come back to the fold, or come up with some useful information. (WARNING: this theory has NOT been confirmed by OpA!) It is possible that the organization known as Mom and Dad told Tach things she'd need to know to infiltrate the Order that they didn't tell to Brother, or that Brother was mostly a means of shuttling coded messages between Tach and Mom and Dad, without being part of the information circle. What if these messages Tach is sending to Brother are meant to catch him up on current events in the Mom and Dad vs. OpA world? Maybe once Tach and Brother have pooled their information, they can get back to work?

Just a musing...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ixlr8 wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:
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ladron121 wrote:
How could "he" refer to her "brother" when the msg was for brother? She was telling "brother" to warn "him".


Daniel?


I think that is jumping the gun on that.

I don't think so. I think it's a fairly safe assumption to make.

Mike


While I never think its safe to make assumptions when it comes to The Order ... the very first OpAphid video is a DIRECT message to Daniel with a very DIRECT message: do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Until I get a better idea, I think "he" = Daniel is the best thing we've got.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, I like your description of what op is saying to Daniel.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziola wrote:
covedweller wrote:

We should contact Daniel because it is really hilarious when that dude is scared! Laughing


Yeah, but then he gets all snotty-nosed/Blair-Witchy and it drives me crazy. I just want to hand him a tissue!



HAHA
remember when he was buggin about Bree's ceremony and was like "I'm so tired, I've been awake for like 14 hours straight."

That Daniel!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok just my teo cents. I think since one fo the messages we HE NEEDS TO KNOW HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN TRACKING HIM. I definatly think we should e-mail Daniel on what we have found. Op does not want us to do this, is what I get from an emial posted in another thread. Why? I mean we intercepted the message and we are not all on op side so maybe we should see what happenes.


*on a side note - is anyone feeling like this is going to tie into LG15 directly*
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what have you found? What is the point of contacting Daniel if you don't have the information that he needs? Does anyone know just how long he has been being tracked? And by who? And did anyone else notice that there was a CAMERA at the office park? Was Daniel taped while he was there?

I'm sorry I ask so many questions. I am curious and I like answers.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is starting to remind me of a book I read by Clive Barker, The Great and Secret Show.

To make a long story short, there was this group of people who created Jesus Christ, Budhha, Allah, etc. The reason for creating all of these people was to mask the "true" religion. The creators sole purpose in life was to defend the truth.

I sent Op a pm basically just acting like an ass. I told him if I didn't get to join his group that I would oneday see him in hell. His response was that the church really has me confused.

I wonder if he is taking this kind of angle.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this points to 'Thelema' as being one religous influence, and that there are more. Looking through contemporary websites to do with this sort of religous belief, many have multiple influences. Such as -
Thelema
Qabalah (perhaps relating to the jewish references....)
Rosicrucian
Ceremonial Magic
http://www.osogd.org/aboutUs.html
http://www.golden-dawn.com/temple/index.jsp?s=library

These are a few sites of 'The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn' - they have split into different factions interestingly enough..... (and just to add they have an online school, A.Crowely was involved early on and were established in New Zealand for a while... actually in the town where I went to school strangely enough). Also they originally had ten temples.... perhaps these refer to the members of Ipod Opera.

Also to note, they call each other brother and sister...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magical_mottoes
http://golden-dawn.blogspot.com/2004_12_27_golden-dawn_archive.html

While I dont think this immediately relates to any of the clues we have at the moment, I think it means we should perhaps have a broader understanding.. Theres alot of information out there, that parallels OpAphid, Bree etc. I just didnt really want to bore you guys... just something to think about
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emailed OpAphid about it.... and my suggestion of there being relations to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn where wrong.... But Op did say that there were of course multiple influences and facets. Im kind of tired now, but if anyone wants I can post the message....
That sucks as there were tons of interesting parallels..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline wrote:
I emailed OpAphid about it.... and my suggestion of there being relations to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn where wrong.... But Op did say that there were of course multiple influences and facets. Im kind of tired now, but if anyone wants I can post the message....
That sucks as there were tons of interesting parallels..


Wouldn't the parallels fall into line with multiple influences?

Both LG15/OpAphid are smarter than to claim one particular religion. Seems like a bad idea in many ways to pick one and do anything that could upset them.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested to see the message, Caroline. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OpAphid wrote:

> We are Heinz people within our organization and operation.
>


Does anyone know what this means?

edit: actually I think Op was being funny. I didn't get it though.
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