Lonelygirl15

[martha]

[lesbrent]

[gogo]

Martha

Your point is short and sweet and quite appropriate. I am trying hard to understand why the negative-nellies are so angry and seem to take so many things so personally. I've asked questions. Read their responses. Even tried to be supportive. But I just can't wrap my head around it. (Also I would rather not spent my time focusing on people who are so negative and bitter. I wears me down quickly.) I guess, Martha and KilltheSmiley, I think your points are quite clear. I would like to add to your suggestions:

If you don't like the way things are going and you're still going to watch. Be considerate in your complaining.

Please realize that this is forum of fans. Sure, we'll complain if Bree doesn't do something we want her to do or something beign like that. However, most folks on this forum are fans and supporters. The team behind lg15 are called the creators because it's easier to write than listing all of their names. I support people's right to say what they'd like and complain about whatever they want to. However, sometimes the very personal attacks and accusations against the production team is pretty tiresome.

I hope we don't continue with the current trend of certain folks who seem to post on here as if their comments are going to "take down" this production. This is entertainment. Not a crooked government scheme or something.

I originally responded to the first post on this thread because I really wanted to understand why some rather vocal and oppositional folks are so upset by the production team. However, I realized that I don't really care to know. I don't feel scammed or traumatized or bothered by this series. I will not be responding to these kinds of posts anymore because it really wastes my time focusing on negativity. Sorry this is so long. (which is clearly another reason why I shouldn't respond to these kinds of threads. )

lesbrent- I will not click on these posts anymore. It's a good suggestion. I hope the complaints and concerns remain in the complaints and concerns part of the forum.

[martha]

[khjq]

[Luminous]

I must be clueless. I guess I really don't understand what the problem is with a production being wildly successful earning advertising revenues and ALSO providing viewers a low pressure but visible opportunity to donate. They could instead be requiring a subscription to access their content. Many sites do. I'm delighted they aren't.

Personally, I would prefer to see things kept the way they are. Entertainment offered free, subsidized by ad revenues and donations. I am getting free entertainment. If I see something I particularly enjoy, I can applaud the LG15 team with my comments, and more importantly $$$$$$$$$$. It's like stamping my feet and screaming MORE MORE MORE! Or, like throwing tomatoes, I can whine and pay nothing to tell them they are not entertaining me and they are on the wrong track.

This is sooooo NOT a trust issue for me. These people are not coming into my home or accessing my personal life as a accountant, doctor, lawyer or house keeper would. THEY ARE MY ENTERTAINERS. If I am not being entertained, I don't have to watch, and they certainly are not requiring that I pay them.

I think we as viewers need to start using the donation button intelligently. If we like what "the Creators" do, they will be more likely to give us more of what we like if we throw them a few bucks - the value of what we feel we have received - a movie, a new book, going out to dinner, a new cd - we spend money on all these forms of entertainment. Here we have an opportunity for direct feed back like on NPR - "If you like this program, make a donation". It's a way of telling them what has value to us and what doesn't.

For example " I think it sucks that Daniel is being so self centered and tempermental. He should be a better role model for other young men his age." No dollars for you.

Or " I think they need to go in search of Bree's Parent's - they need to find them and help each other out of this mess " Hmmmm that might be worth $5 to me.

Viewers - if you can't afford to or don't want to click the donate button then don't. No one is holding a gun to your head (unless OpAphid has found you But keep it to yourself. Don't throw water on the creators for making the option available.

Sorry for being so longwinded.

Luminous

[jsmith]

we are working as fast as we can to be ready in time for christmas on both the technical and the marketing side. I can't go into all details here, but I can say it takes time to do what we are doing.

[curiousGeorge]

[Broken Kid]

[Luminous]

[trainer101]

[Luminous]

[curiousGeorge]

That was a well written rebuttal! It is refreshing to see a grammatically correct sentence written here. The "Jonas is Hawwwwt!" posters probably don't even care if they are being manipulated and mislead, but others do.

Perhaps my own poor writing failed to articulate the key point I was trying to make, so I will attempt it again. The creators have from the beginning been masters of manipulation and slight of hand. Sometimes this has been really cool, such as masquerading Bree as a real vlog. If you were around for the "hunt" I think you will know what I mean.

Most of the time these deceptions and falsehoods have not been of benefit to the cast, fans, or the emerging Internet Mini Series Industry. Examples of these are too numerous to mention if you have been watching them since the beginning, as I suspect you have not... That is fair, you WILL catch on to them if you stick around long enough. You appear to be fairly bright!

Just keep an eye out for what comes out of the M &M spin machine. And yes, people will continue to call them out when it is needed. I'll be back when needed, I think a point has been made.

Have fun!
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[Luminous]

[martha]