Lonelygirl15

spaciegirlreturn · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject:

Plus, while it may be your "right" to speak, it's not anyone else's obligation to agree, listen to or even consider what you're saying.
_________________
Me and my key...same as it ever was.

tannhaus · Guest

tannhaus · Guest

spaciegirlreturn · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject:

better for who?
edit- it was just an afterthought
edit 2- it has nothing to do with trying to start a fight and it is on topic because the same type idea could be said for the forum.
_________________
Me and my key...same as it ever was.

tannhaus · Guest

iamcool · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:56 am Post subject:

serious tanhaus, u have no idea what you are talking about Confused

_________________
my name is josh, not iamcool or iam or cool
cooltron5000 is also accepted

My lawyers told me to edit the content of this signature so i didn't get sued

Me and Oobles are 'TWAT's - 'The Worldwide Association of Threadjacking' Smile

wintermute · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:33 am Post subject:

Ziola · The Order of Denderah Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 5774

I understand what you are both saying completely. And as for the comment that I am a parent, why yes I am. And I don't know any other parents with kids the same age as mine who approach sex quite so openly (my son is 8, my daughter is 4 and they both know that if they want to touch themselves, they may do so in the bathroom alone or in their rooms alone with the doors shut. Its called happy time. They also know that when you reach a certain age, you get to share happy time like mom and dad. Very Happy

). What I was trying to say, albeit very crappily, is that some parents are not as involved and therefore do not know what their children are doing. And since their parents are not monitoring what their children are involved in, it is up to the moderators and the Creators to keep this a marginally safe place for them to be. So while talk of sex and violence may be something that does not phase the adults here, for the "children" (for lack of better term), who come here, it might not be quite so appropriate. Therefore, it is the job of the moderators to censor us, even though we might have no issue with what is being said and discussed (sex,drugs, violence) someone else might. It is just the way things work, unfortunately. While it isn't our job to keep an eye on others children, neither is it our job to open their eyes to what might be considered adult topics.

spaciegirlreturn · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:54 am Post subject:

AutoPilate · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:10 am Post subject:

Yeah? Well, it is for society at large. So there.

( Wink

)
_________________
Why was there BACON IN THE SOAP?!

spaciegirlreturn · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:20 am Post subject:

_________________
Me and my key...same as it ever was.

Sad Panda · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject:

Wow. This is a great discussion. And it's so refreshing to see people aruge a point in an even tempered and thoughtful manner.

And I don't have much to say besides this ... obscenity is a very subjective concept. Even the Supreme Court can't define it, so it's understandable why there is no clear cut guidelines for what is an acceptable post/thread and what is a naughty post/thread.

As such, moderators have to use thier own personal value system (or, if you're like me and have no values, you go against community standards) to discern what should be moved/locked/deleted and what can stay. Unfortunetly, it is inevitable that this will cause friction.

... I have more to say on the subject, but my boss just walked in the office. Wink

I'll rejoin the convo later.
_________________
Got Drama?

Taig · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 373

Ziola: point taken, not given mind you Wink

but I understand where you are coming from.

--------------------------------------------------------

As far as I am concerned I don't expect to change anyones mind and it's not likely I'll change mine. I do want to understand though.

Understanding where people are coming from doesn't often make me agree but it just makes it a whole lot easier for me to accept.

Tannhaus makes some pretty solid arguments, I sometimes suspect there is some professional training there Wink

. Spaciegirl scores every bit as often. She said something just a few psots above that made me smile

Ziola · The Order of Denderah Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 5774

OOOFFF!! Taig, your last sentence really made my poor little brain hurt for a minute. But it is a valid point. I think what happens is just that, if it is something that we don't believe in, or agree with, then it must be wrong. And I don't mean just us, it is a societal sickness. I'll give you an example...I had a family start taking classes with me this year for the first time. I do not hide the fact that I am not married not do I hide the fact that my fiance is not my sons father. When I refer to Jay (my fiance) in the studio I call him my hubby and immediately follow it up with "for lack of a better term". Well, one of the girls asked me in class one day what my wedding was like. And I told her that I wasn't married. She then asked me if my divorce was rough. And I told her that I had never been married. Her reply was "You have to have been married. You have children." I said that technically you don't have to be married to have children, but that it wasn't something that I recommend people trying. The family left me a message on my studio voicemail saying that, due to my loose morals, they wouldn't be attending the studio anymore.

I think that pretty much sums it up. It doesn't offend me, I have no problem with it, so it must be right. But if offended them, they had a huge problem with it, so it must be wrong.

I think that we get so caught up in the black and white of everything that we forget about the shades of grey.

wintermute · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: