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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right in Tachyon type mashing of meanings

Tau Phi

Tau used to be a symbol meaning life or resurrection.

According to goldennumber.net Phi's two parts each have a different meaning the circle represents nothingness or a void. The vertical cross bar Unity. "Unity to nothing".

In this case tau is replacing the verticle cross bar. Meaning Tau's meaning should be used.

"Life to nothing" (life from nothing for the test tube baby crowd)

Just throwing out the scraps tell me if there is any meat left on them to chew on.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Life to nothing" (life from nothing for the test tube baby crowd)


Could you explain the context of that a little more? "Life to" and "life from" sound like very different things.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Life to nothing" (life from nothing for the test tube baby crowd)


Could you explain the context of that a little more? "Life to" and "life from" sound like very different things.


i think it's like "life from nothing" = "life coming from nothing"
"life to nothing" = "giving life to that which was nothing"

i think that's the train of thought behind it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:
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giddeanx wrote:
"Life to nothing" (life from nothing for the test tube baby crowd)


Could you explain the context of that a little more? "Life to" and "life from" sound like very different things.


i think it's like "life from nothing" = "life coming from nothing"
"life to nothing" = "giving life to that which was nothing"

i think that's the train of thought behind it.


Thanks for that. I see what they had in mind now. I guess that could work.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this hasn't already been said, because I'll feel stupid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

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Since the twentieth century, the golden ratio has been represented by the Greek letter \varphi (phi, after Phidias, a sculptor who is said to have employed it) or less commonly by τ (tau, the first letter of the ancient Greek root τομή meaning cut).

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

janesalteredstates wrote:
I hope this hasn't already been said, because I'll feel stupid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

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Since the twentieth century, the golden ratio has been represented by the Greek letter \varphi (phi, after Phidias, a sculptor who is said to have employed it) or less commonly by τ (tau, the first letter of the ancient Greek root τομή meaning cut).


repeated or not, this could mean sumthin!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Imagine it is like a table with a solid surface. If you had an axis of rotation directly through the center dot, and you rotated the "table" 45 degrees, you would get this:




I presented this comparison a few days ago as a contributor. Please don't be upset if I point out that I am once again merely speculating here.

45 degrees, out of a 360 circle. 360/45=8

Last time I ordered a pizza, I noticed the comparison. Eight slices, although I'm sure none of them was exactly 45 degrees. But it was a circle with eight parts.

I also noticed bethy and I seem to be focusing on the same wheel here; a circle with eight sections.

Ice cream: you buy it bulk in gallons. You can also buy it in half gallons, quarts, and pints. Bottom line: pint is 1/8 of a gallon.

Sure, I'm am a crazy theorist, but Occam's Razor applies. The pizza and ice cream thing is a clue to the fraction 1/8. The images point to a division of eight.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number 8 keeps bringing me back to the box Daniel found.

As you know,
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A fallen or lying down 8 is used to represent infinity in mathematics.


But what does this really tell us?
Then there is,
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This interpretation of 8 may be related to the representation of the caduceus (where two snakes form several figure eights) as stability or balance of opposing forces.


Caduceus is also the symbol used in medicine. But again, you all already know this stuff. I'm useless. Embarassed

Does anyone else feel like we're looking for clues in a puzzle that doesn't exist?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ApotheosisAZ wrote:
I also noticed bethy and I seem to be focusing on the same wheel here; a circle with eight sections.

Ice cream: you buy it bulk in gallons. You can also buy it in half gallons, quarts, and pints. Bottom line: pint is 1/8 of a gallon.

Sure, I'm am a crazy theorist, but Occam's Razor applies. The pizza and ice cream thing is a clue to the fraction 1/8. The images point to a division of eight.


Nice catch. It'd be great if that proved to be a hint.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

janesalteredstates wrote:

Does anyone else feel like we're looking for clues in a puzzle that doesn't exist?


I think we are somewhat desperate for something, anything to do, and therefore we are making things to keep us occupied while we wait for the next actual puzzle.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziola wrote:
janesalteredstates wrote:

Does anyone else feel like we're looking for clues in a puzzle that doesn't exist?


I think we are somewhat desperate for something, anything to do, and therefore we are making things to keep us occupied while we wait for the next actual puzzle.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: other orders? Reply with quote

Does anyone know if there's any pattern to the organizations that Crowley was part of. I mean, obviously there was a chain of command in his groups, but were there any divisions or pattern to the divisions? I haven't found anything, but if somebody has that information, then maybe we can kind of "reverse-engineer" what the symbols stand for, starting from a kind of template. I'm just going with Crowley because I know he had a long list of groups that he was part of/founded. Then again, I'm not even sure that I should looking at this from Crowley's perspective. Oh well.

Straws? Grasping? Yeah, it feels like it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's like the zodiac cross I posted a few days ago...

http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/no3/images/103_s074.jpg


Again, I found it accidentally while looking up various versions of the Christian cross, especially with regard to Western Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy...

But upon further looking into the source of this image...it turns out to come from The Equinox, from the OTO:

http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/index.html



Also, we know the Crestors are not trying to use any one particular organization or religion....but it's clear that there's a heavy influence if certain elements.

This is an interesting read:

http://www.biroco.com/kaos/lodge.pdf
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziola wrote:
janesalteredstates wrote:

Does anyone else feel like we're looking for clues in a puzzle that doesn't exist?


I think we are somewhat desperate for something, anything to do, and therefore we are making things to keep us occupied while we wait for the next actual puzzle.


Cool, as long as I'm not the only one.

Anyway, when a real puzzle comes along some solves it immediately and that's that. Meh.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janes dear...these haven't really been the most challenging puzzles. Just something to keep us busy and so whiney, me thinks.
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