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tigerlilylynn Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 891 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: [DISCUSSION] Glenn's career. Should he have been removed? |
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Glenn was removed from his position as PM.
How do you feel about this? Was this worth being removed or should this have been worked out otherwise?
[No flames kthx] _________________ Better than a high school reunion!!
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Nieriel.Manwathiel Owen's Helper
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 1504 Location: Somewhere between here and there
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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i really hope the createatrons are able to dig to the bottom of this manure pile. some people brought up valid points of the possibility of falsifying logs, but wouldn't the guys at the HQ have the original records?
they'd just need several weeks and a LOOOOOT of caffine!
....and maybe an orange slurpie or two... _________________ A watching_watchers-certified POST WHORE! |
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TOSG Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hard for us to judge without knowing all the information.
...Not that that's going to stop anyone, heh.
If the allegations are true, then probably so - I don't agree with everyone who's calling this sexual harrassment, but I do think that it subverts the spirit of the game. |
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trainer101 Moderator Manager
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 2671 Location: Wasting away again ILLUMINATIVILLE...
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Again, we don't have all the facts so it's an impossible call to make from our position.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Tiger for hanging in here amid all the controversy. _________________ It's STILL all connected... |
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Nieriel.Manwathiel Owen's Helper
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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trainer101 wrote: | Again, we don't have all the facts so it's an impossible call to make from our position.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Tiger for hanging in here amid all the controversy. |
hear hear! this'd make, what, the 10 billionth time the tiger's kept its head while all others were losing theirs?
don't that make you a man, my son? ....or daughter?
:has given up trying to guess genders on this post many moons ago...:
edit -- i think we can make an accurate call that this pile of manure stinx! _________________ A watching_watchers-certified POST WHORE! |
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ForeverMourn Owen's Helper
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1805 Location: Oxford
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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LoL... Orange Slurpies... LOL!
TOSG- In my opinion he should have been fired for stepping out from behind the curtain and offering hints. _________________ Obsession?
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Sami P. Monkey's Agent
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 2237 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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trainer101 wrote: | Again, we don't have all the facts so it's an impossible call to make from our position.. |
I agree with trainer
But, IF he gave hints in private chats. He was cheating, which a PM cannot do. In that case, he should be fired as a PM, but not directer/writer (or what else he's doing)
If he recieved naked pics, he's a jerk, but not a sexual offender. Can't fire someone just because he's a jerk _________________ "Have you uff da'd today?" - Broken Kid
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horcruxes Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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getting rid of glenn isn't a quick fix. which is obviously the kind of fix the creator's were looking for. everyone is saying that the creators must've had concrete evidence. if people who were involved in the community that it started and stayed in don't have evidence, how did the creators magically procure such evidence?
there are thousands of pages of chat logs that need to be dissected and analyzed. its not possible that the people who are PMing the Creators with their concerns have given this kind of evidence.
the evidence that everyone wants we're scrambling for. no, you're not entitled to it. but yes, we do want to clear glenn's name. its not right for people who decide to hold a personal vendetta again the PM to be able to FALSELY accuse him of such things. how is it that everyone automatically believes them? yet, when we offer up information that counters their claim, everyone jumps on us for evidence.
it is sad, but for some reason others like to see people break down and lose everything they have, rather than them be empowered and actually be a success.
the claims from tilting about having spoken to a person who spoke directly to glenn, to my knowledge is a fabrication. as of last night she told us that she wouldn't support those claims because there was no evidence. yet now she is fully supporting them enough to quit.
nothing is sacred, and everyone is lying.
what is more disgusting that the cheating is the lying that is going on to prove a point.
i may have lost many a friend today.
but i know one thing. i won't contribute to the lies and deceit that has taken hold of those people i once trusted. _________________ if i speak, i am condemned.
if i am silent, i am damned.
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Nieriel.Manwathiel Owen's Helper
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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horcruxes wrote: | getting rid of glenn isn't a quick fix.
hor goes on to make good points |
as i've said before, i'm a lil suspicious about such an early decision; i'd say it'd be more likely that it'd be an "until further notice" deal. _________________ A watching_watchers-certified POST WHORE! |
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agent_fondue The Order of Denderah
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote: | horcruxes wrote: | getting rid of glenn isn't a quick fix.
hor goes on to make good points |
as i've said before, i'm a lil suspicious about such an early decision; i'd say it'd be more likely that it'd be an "until further notice" deal. |
or they have confirmed more than they have told us... or will ever tell us. _________________ But you can call me chisa chan.... or cheese.
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deagol Thor's Hammer
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Couldn't the chat logs be posted with the names x'd out to protect the privacy of other players? |
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ApotheosisAZ The Order of Denderah
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the crux of the issue from my view:
The Lonelygirl15 experience has been rated PG13. When Glenn engaged in the behavior as a private individual BEFORE being hired on by The Creators, that wasn't a problem.
However, if he continued to engage in inappropriate behavior AFTER being hired, then that is an issue. _________________ Official Jester of the LG15 Defense Force! |
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bethy Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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ApotheosisAZ wrote: | Here is the crux of the issue from my view:
The Lonelygirl15 experience has been rated PG13. When Glenn engaged in the behavior as a private individual BEFORE being hired on by The Creators, that wasn't a problem.
However, if he continued to engage in inappropriate behavior AFTER being hired, then that is an issue. |
I 100% agree with this. |
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Michelle Casual Observer
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 61 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Um its all pretty clear-cut to me... obviously he should be fired. If its true, it was completely unprofessional. |
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immortal1 Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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ApotheosisAZ wrote: | Here is the crux of the issue from my view:
The Lonelygirl15 experience has been rated PG13. When Glenn engaged in the behavior as a private individual BEFORE being hired on by The Creators, that wasn't a problem.
However, if he continued to engage in inappropriate behavior AFTER being hired, then that is an issue. |
In addition it's a PG13 show trying to attract advertisers and sponsors. |
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