Lonelygirl15

[HyeMew]

LG is at a crossroads here. Presonally I think the more of OpAphid stuff which is dropped the better. If they continued to shave away things like the silly notion of a Star Wars-like world of conflict between the Order and them the better. I think they had a pretty good mythology going just about the characters and daily lives! I think they thought in order to make it mythology-worthy they needed to make it huge, but in reality it only made things more silly. Right now some scaling back would be the best perscription, remember Creators, you DON'T need a huge world conflict in which a sinister force controls all police and doctors in the world to make a good "mythology".
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[Lurker]

They can't exactly pretend the Order doesn't exist at this point, Hye. "Scaling back" would be absolutely dreadful for the storyline - no matter what followed, simply because you don't vivisect a story of its plot elements and expect no one to notice.

Rather than a way to come out of this better than before, that sounds like a way to make sure the coffin is built and the grave dug.

As far as the mythology they wanted to create, if they thought they couldn't pull it off without ongoing drama and conflict, then they were absolutely right. You're not going to successfully do it if you're trying to craft "Ages of Our Daily Lives." That sounds like a non-interactive version of "The Sims."

[trainer101]

To revert to Bree in her bedroom and Daniel reading magazines on the bed would spell the instant death of LG15. The series would be viewed as a failure in the eyes of many because of it's perceived inability to handle its own evolution. That which does not grow - dies.
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[immortal1]

"Every adversity carries with it the seed of an equivalent or greater benefit." — Napoleon Hill

I think the ARG worked best when it was a Gemma/OpAphid vs Tachyon/Brother spinoff. Perhaps this provides an opportunity to reboot the ARG and properly align it.

I am also very concerned that the Creators will shy away from fan interaction now. Their greatest success and reason for fan interaction has become its greatest reason against it. I think there is an opportunity for the fans to step up and create something new that will get people talking and maybe deflect some of the negativity this has brought up.

[HyeMew]

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[trainer101]

I understand your view. I also see the forum continue to grow in activity as the story expands. There's no doubt that the Order storyline will shift as the story progresses - provided the story lasts long enough to move into other areas. Will it go away completely? I doubt it, the current arc is compelling and seems to be drawing more fans everyday - and that, in turn, translates to future revenue. If the Order "withdraws" it must be replaced with a story arc that is at least equally compelling.
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[HyeMew]

[imagin]

Story=conflict, not watching a pretty girl bounce around her bedroom, with some pouting thrown in occastionally... though I'm sure those attracted to her would be content to just watch that.

I started out watching Bree, but for quite a while now, it's been the OpAphid and the non-canon characters that have kept it interesting.

The base story is the conflict between real people and The Order... and to try to dump that now, given that near every episode has been headed that direction, would be a huge mistake.

Sort of like Dorothy going through all the trials and tribulations... putting those slippers on her feet... and then deciding that maybe she really didn't want to go home after all, she'd rather go play bingo with the munchkins.
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[trainer101]

What you view as a vlog, I view as a story. Vlogging is one of the ways the story is told but not the only way. The story encompasses the ARG and the interaction within that format. Additionally, with the increased input of the fans via their own blogs, videos and other games that are springing up - as well as the changes the Creators are planning, I could never view this as simply a young girls vlog.

Perhaps because I view the storytelling aspect differently than you do, I can be more liberal in my interpretation of what you would call fantasy. To me, the more frustrating moments are when Bree reverts to her 'furry friend loving former self' in the middle of chaos.
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[stuart2004]

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[milowent]

I think what Hye is getting at is that in the course of making the whole story revolve around the Order, the show seems to be leaving behind the teenage character development and nuance which once defined Bree and Daniel. But it doesn't have to.

Now, for sure, Bree's mysterious religion has been a part of this series since day one. It was why she was lonely and in her room a lot. Over time, more about her religion HAD to be revealed. But the most successful early videos combined both her personal conflicts as a lonely teenage girl with hints of a dark underside: My Parents Suck (july 4), and Lazy Eye (july 22 - the most successful lg15 video by views ever).

Obviously a lot of parallels can be drawn between Buffy and Lg15 at this point. In Buffy, they made a lot of effort to have buffy still face a lot of the normal dilemmas that high schools and college kids face, including relationships. Those relationships may have been with a vampire and some secret military member, but a lot of attention was still given to those storylines. In that way, I think buffy was able to tap into an audience that enjoyed shows like 90210 and the O.C., and also an audience that liked the vampire-slayer storyline.

When Bree and Daniel left home, that was a huge shakeup for the series compared to Buffy. Bree was homeschooled, now she's not really schooled at all, except at al-Tachyon's training camp i guess. Bree had to totally transform from a girl who didn't know how to drive, and had never been to a party, to a homeless fugitive.

Bree can't go home again. But there can be story arcs that deal with personal relationships and the Order at the same time and be successful, i think.
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[milowent]