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[ShardinsKitten]

Ok firstly let me say, I know you guys aren't done moving stuff or renaming stuff and what not. But I already have a few issues. There are a couple fairly large Fan Fics that now have threads in all five of the sections (or like 3-4, anyways most of them). It's so hard when those threads are still relative to what's going on and now you have to sift threw 4 forum topics to try to find them. This new system does not make it an easier, it's just a huge mess to me. For example:

Facility J
HSA
Cassie stuff

Should all have their own thread topics. There are tons of threads on all three of those. It would be a a lot simpler and cleaner to have them with their own sections, untill they are over (will HSA and Facility J, we know cassie is never going to die). Not only that but then other Fan Fic wont get burried under all the Facility J, cassie, HSA stuff. Anyways just my thoughts.

[romanceismusic]

I would definitely have to agree on this one. I'm still trying to play catch up on FacilityJ, and now its just going to be that much harder because everything is strewn about. And kit has a point, if new fan-fic stuff arises, its just going to get buried under all the active arg-ish stuff.
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[trainer101]

The idea of "In Development" is to encourage the exchange of ideas and provide resources for video makers and those who want to try their hand at it.

"Fan Fic Lobby" is for non-vid contributions like blogs and stories as well as vids that are non-LG related.

I would have liked an ARG section or sections, but as we discussed the creation of the new sections, it became clear that we could have a dozen areas created in no time and the forum would be out of control.

There's a relatively simple solution to the ARG/Puzzle concerns. We can post everything ARG related in the "In Depth Discussion" area since that's usually what ends up happening anyway. Let me know what you think.
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[immortal1]

[romanceismusic]

[TOSG]

First of all, I'll say that I commend the moderators and administrator for taking the initiative to try to renovate the somewhat flawed Fan Fiction section. Unfortunately, I feel that the specific changes that were made have been a substantial step backwards.

Rather than having to check one forum to see and discuss fan creations, these threads are now somewhat haphazardly strewn about five different forums. I'm not blaming the moderators for this one bit, but the fact of the matter is that many of these topics do not lend themselves to the easy categorization as one of the five things for which subforums have been made. Also, fan video series and ARGs that are substantially prolific (NBR, Neural N3t, HSAO, CiW, FacilityJ, Itscassie, etc...) are burying other topics from new or smaller fan video artists.

I propose, instead, that separate subforums be created for some of the most prolific fan video series and ARGs.

Now, I know that you don't want to give preferential treatment to some series over others. I understand this completely. I think that a reasonable solution to this concern would be to set up some objective standard (based on the series' longevity, number of videos, number of posts relating to it, etc...) for giving that series its own subforum.

And, this approach would have many benefits. Firstly, it would be great for people who follow videos/ARGs that have been given a subforum, as all of the posts about that series/ARG will be in one place, and much easier to follow. Furthermore, for people who don't enjoy or follow a particular series/ARG, it would be much easier for them to disregard posts relating to that ARG. They could just avoid going into that subforum, and never have to worry that the topics that they're interested in will get buried by topics that they're not interested in. A clutter of ten subforums is much easier to navigate than a clutter of thousands of posts.

I hope that you will take this into consideration.

[ShardinsKitten]

[romanceismusic]

I agree with the setup Kit has suggestion. One of my main concerns about this setup is that stuff from all of the arg/fanfics have been moved to the archived section. This section is locked. So if something is revealed, or needs discussed, a new thread will have to be made. This unfortunately, will just add to the clutter, making it even more difficult to keep things in order.
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[ApotheosisAZ]

As a contributor to the section in question, I'd like to add my support to the changes that have been made. I agree with immortal1; it is too early to tell if the changes need to be tweaked in any way. Perhaps TOSG is correct, but we need to give the changes some time and see.
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[ShardinsKitten]

Firstly this is a huge mess, bigger then what we had before, which was also a huge mess but not as bad. The theory and intent is excellent. It in action, is not so excellent. Nothing from a still running arg should be locked into a sub category. That's just, I don't even get the reasoning behind that, what if someone new wants to join, and they have a question about one of things in there... now they have to make a whole new topic about just to ask a simple question. Come on.

Immortal I just don't agree with you, I probably never will and that's ok. But there wont be 10 different lists. There aren't that many major Fan Fic ARGs and frankly I don't see there ever being that many made.
HSA and Facility J now have threads thrown about 3 different sub categories (including the one that's locked). I'm not really involved in HSA so I don't know how important that is to them. I know it has a lot of threads and a lot of people on the forums are involved with it, and it is long running now. But if anyone has ever even taken a look at the Facility J ARG it's pretty complicated and it helps tremendously to go back and look at past puzzles and stuff. Which is nearly impossible to do with this system. It took me almost 20 minutes to find the one thread I was looking for today. This isn't organization this is chaos. At least before everything was in one spot.

Most ARGs take up a lot of threads. I don't see why it would be such a big deal to give proven Fan Fic ARGs their own sections. I'm talking the ones that have drops, or packages mailed out, have regular puzzles, and have a decent amount of people on the Forums following it their own section.

I'm not sure HSA has drops or mailed packages, but just by the amount of threads and people doing it, I think it would classify for it's own section, and I'm not even a part of it. Heck it had it's own section forever.

Facility J should have its own section. It has everything to classify it as an ARG and none of us see it ending anytime soon.

I still think Cassie spin offs should have their own too, because everyone does cassie stuff. and heck there are still cassie stickies in the forums.

Anyways I don't mean to offend anyone, or belittle the mods hard work that went into this. But I think given time it's only going to get more chaotic then it already is. I don't see this becoming a good thing. It needs to be tweaked.

[janesalteredstates]

I just want to add that I love the "in development" section and have wanted something like this for a while.

Also, I agree that the old topics should be unlocked.
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