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cainam
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well J responded, lol several times here what i got



reply



Sent



reply



Edit: and yes the COLd was just a typo on my part Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm intrigued by Jay's statement that "some review of past clues may be in order." One that comes to mind is "every man and every woman is a star". Anything to that?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incremental progress validated...

I wrote:

Quote:

Subject: XVI + I
Message:
Hello again Jay,

Cainam and I have been hard at work deciphering the symbolism encoded in the ATHENToR "tarot" card. We were hoping to find out if our most recent developments are taking us in the right direction.

The Tower is a symbol of hubris punished by humility (a la the Tower of Babel). From what I know, this could certainly tell the story of the research at Facility J.

The card we received from you is numbered "XVI + I". Our latest hypothesis is that the story told therein is that The Magician (card I) is using an alchemical furnace, The Tower (card XVI), to transmute The Star (card XVII). So our new hydrophilic friend is the sum of the ingenuity of a scientist and the power of an attempt by humans to reach into heaven.

Is this accurate, if not complete in scope?

Best,
Philip


and Jay wrote back:
Quote:

Excellent Work. Your diligent research and rigorous contemplation show. Yes to your summary, including "accurate, but not complete in scope".

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a message from J on myspace....Sorry didnt feel like messing with screen caps...

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My apologies.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: cainam
Date: May 30, 2007 6:20 PM


so are you just going to leave us hanging now that it seems we've got some momentum?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You tube response to whether or not sandi is psychic

No more than we all were.

"Everything of psychic origin has a double face."
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to be taken to seriously. I was just having fun. My apologies. Evidently MySpace destroyed my ascii - hopefully it doesn't do likewise with my HTML:



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: cainam
Date: Jun 4, 2007 11:02 PM


Smile No worries...........my what do we have here???
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote to Jay (via YouTube)

Quote:


Subject: Spinning our wheels

Hello Jay,

As I perused my Tarot deck, I couldn't help but notice the similarity between the letters on the Wheel of Fortune (X) and ATHENToR. My Hebrew is a little rusty, can you tell me if the other four letters fill in the blanks left by AToR?

Regards,
Philip



and he responded with

Quote:

Subject: Re: Spinning our wheels
My advice is that you not play with a full deck.

It is a fortunate coincidence that the four letters RoTA mean wheel. You are circling the answer. The symbolism of the wheel and it's application to the matter at hand is worth your consideration. Do not labor unecessarily to "fill in the blanks" in this case.


ATHENToR has "rotate" as a sub-anagram, which is strongly implicated by Jay's language in the above. The 'o' being lowercase could simply be to draw attention to it being round and wheel-shaped.

What's left in ATHENToR are the letters 'h' and 'n'; no idea at this point what to do with those.

I think this means we're going to have to use some kind of rotation scheme in decrypting something in the near future.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busy night...

After the "vail" puzzle, I wrote to Jay (via myspace)

Quote:

Subject: Piercing the veil
Body: I knew better than to think it was a slip of the hand, my friend.


And he replied

Quote:

Subject: RE: Piercing the veil
Body: More appropriately a sleight of hand Wink I'm number (I) you know.


He's The Magician.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote back in the hopes of getting some clarification:
Quote:

Really.

So, if I understand our parallel conversation correctly, you're telling me that you are Sandi's "father", if not in the strictest genealogical sense.

Or at the very least, that she got to where she is now by following the direction given by your Vector.


To which he replied:
Quote:

I admit to being instrumental in her beginnings.


This old man sure has some stories to tell...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, so I wasn't special. Lol.

Ah well.

I opened up my message inbox on message today and I had two replies from him:



NUMBER ONE



NUMBER TWO
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote:
Quote:
To: JayNineteen [videos (2) | favorites (0) | friends (0)]
Sent: June 05, 2007
Read: June 05, 2007
Subject: OK I think it's done
Message:
"nut reran uterus"

From wiki: "Nut was the goddess of the sky and all heavenly bodies, a symbol of resurrection and rebirth."

Cue the archetypal allegory symbolism experts...

He replied:
Quote:
From: JayNineteen [videos (2) | favorites (0) | friends (0)]
Sent: June 05, 2007
Subject: Re: OK I think it's done
Message:
What you have discovered is indeed significant, and worthy of further consideration. There are multiplicities of meaning yet to be explored, however there is yet another permutation. You've made it this far, the next step won't be difficult.

Original Message:

> "nut reran uterus"
>
> From wiki: "Nut was the goddess of the sky and all he...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote:
Quote:
To: JayNineteen [videos (2) | favorites (1) | friends (0)]
Sent: June 05, 2007
Read: June 05, 2007
Subject: Puzzle solution
Message:

Nature nurtures?

Aja


Jay responded with:
Quote:
From: JayNineteen [videos (2) | favorites (0) | friends (0)]
Sent: June 05, 2007
Subject: Re: Puzzle solution
Message:

It certainly does.

Original Message:

> Nature nurtures?
>
> Aja

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
From: JayNineteen [videos (2) | favorites (0) | friends (0)]
Sent: June 05, 2007
Subject: Re: More permutations
Message:
The solution proposed in your previous message, Nature Nurtures, is the correct solution. The task now is for you to ascertain it's application to the situation at hand.

TRUE SATURN RUNE

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/vectorj19/SatRune.jpg

And TAU RUNE RETURNS (do not overlook who backs this project)
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/vectorj19/athenTAUr.jpg

are your bonus pack Wink. Nice find.

Up from Earth's Centre through the Seventh Gate
I rose, and on the Throne of Saturn sate,
And many Knots unravel'd by the Road;
But not the Master-Knot of Human Fate.


Original Message:

> TRUE SATURN RUNE (♄ did that came out right?)
>
> In alchemy saturn=lead. "Turn lead into gold..."
>
> TAU RUNE RETURNS (reminds me of the tau-omicron from Tachyon's file).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote to Jay:

Quote:

Date: Jun 6, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: Natures' Nurture

Hello Jay,

The question of "nature versus nurture" is so difficult to address. Since almost every two people differ greatly in their inborn traits, controls for such experiments are nearly impossible, especially considering the ethical guidelines currently in place for federally funded research. Some of the most compelling results have been achieved by working with twins. If human clones had ever been produced, I suppose that might be fertile ground for such studies as well.

On the other hand, maybe these sorts of things have been done, and I just haven't heard about them. Is there another Star in the sky?

Philip

P.S. I hear that Ithaca is beautiful this time of year. Do you have plans to visit anytime soon?


And got back:

Quote:

Date: Jun 7, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Natures' Nurture
True, the effects of nurture as opposed to nature have indeed long been a puzzle. This project was privately funded, and as such our guidelines were governed by the Foundation. “Federal ethics guidelines” have never been a concern. But you have deduced this already, I’m sure.

As you so astutely surmise, not everything conducted in laboratories is released to the general public – or the research community for that matter. Some things remain secret for a reason.

The sky is full of stars, though not all shine with equal brilliance.

-J

P.S. The nature in Ithaca is very nurturing this time of year. I make it a point to pass through around midsummer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just in...





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