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Jonathan Almond

2007-10-17T21:01:08Z

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'''Jonathan Almond''' is an interactive production assistant in the webseries [[KateModern]]. He has a BA in politics from the University of Newcastle upon Tyne.

Before working on KateModern he worked at a company called Vera, on TV programs including 'Don't Watch That, Watch This!' for the BBC and 'Bremner, Bird & Fortune' for Channel 4. He had heard of Lonelygirl15, but not KateModern, as it was so new, when he was asked by [[Kelly Brett]] if he'd be interested in working on the show. He, of course, accepted, and now works as a PA for KateModern.

Aside from his current job, Jonathan says that he'd like to be a theme park ride designer. He is a talented trombone player, but retired from the spotlight a few years ago.

==External Links==
*[http://www.ncl.ac.uk/teachingexcellence/studentsviews/profile/455 Jonathan's student profile at Newcastle.]

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Crazy Emo Chick

2007-10-17T09:44:56Z

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{{Blog
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| number = 0184
| image = 0184-SarahHoldingLipstick.jpg
| caption = I pretended this was a gun...
| blogger = Bree
| date = May 1st, 2007
| url = {{lg15|240}}
| forumid = 9634
| length = 1:29
| description = We got a message from Taylor to go and meet her. When we showed up, it wasn't exactly what we expected. Taylor wasn't there, but we were "introduced" to her sister Sarah.
| faction = The Resistance
| status = Public Video
| location = [[Zavalla]]
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|lg15|bree|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|julia|jules}}


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| producers = Amanda Goodfried
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| Previous = OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!
| Next = No Trespassing

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==Transcript==
(''Close up of Bree, with Daniel and Jonas sleeping in the background'')

'''Bree:''' No surprise, Jonas got us lost. Now we're here, it's ten in the a-m, we've got a girl to save, people to see andâ¦ what do you know. SLEEPS-A-LOT and SNORE-FACTORY are still sleeping. (''To Jonas and Daniel'') Wake up!

'''Jonas:''' (''groans'')

(''Bree tries to wake up Jonas'')

'''Jonas:''' (''half asleep'') Get me a coffee and some pancakes.

'''Bree:''' I'm not your slave.

(''Cut to Jonas holding the camera'')

'''Jonas:''' Bree's in the shower. Thank God becauseâ¦ she's like the mother bird some times, you know? Like, like "Chirp! Chirp! Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!" (''Daniel throws a pillow at Jonas'') "Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!"

'''Daniel:''' Can we just get our own room next time?

'''Jonas:''' (''Gives Daniel the thumbs up'')

(''Cut to Bree in the bathroom'')

'''Bree:''' So I got an email from [[Taylor]]. She asked us to meet her and her sister at the park. So after we get ready we're going to meet them. I'm a little bit nervous.

(''Cut to the park'')

'''Bree:''' It looks like no one's here. (''To Jonas'') Did you find anything?

'''Jonas:''' (''Pointing to a trash can'') I found a Happy Meal. French fries are still good.

'''Bree:''' What do we do? I mean...

'''Jonas:''' I don't know I'm just gonna keep lookin. Maybe I can find a soft drink!

'''Bree:''' Are you sure this is the place?

'''Jonas:''' I don't know this is the only park around, so I don't know.

(''Cut to the bleachers. Daniel is walking to the camera with his hands up. A blonde girl, Sarah is behind him.'')

'''Bree:''' Oh my God!

'''Daniel:''' She's got a gun! Don't...

'''Jonas:''' Bree! Get back!

'''Bree:''' What do we do...

'''Sarah:''' Turn off the camera!

'''Daniel:''' Do what she says! Shut itâ

'''Sarah:''' Turn off the camera!

'''Daniel:''' Turn it off!

(''Cut to Sarah sitting on the bleachers, laughing'')

'''Bree:''' Tell them what you did.

'''Sarah:''' I pretended this (''holds up lipstick'') was a gun, and held it up to Daniel's back.

'''Bree:''' (''Turning the camera to Daniel'') And what do you think of that? Daniel?

(''Daniel stares at the camera angrily, but says nothing. Cut to Daniel in the middle of the park.'')

'''Daniel:''' Who is this girl? The first time I meet her she shoves lipstick in my back and makes me think it's a gun and then, to top it all off, walking back here she pantses me! It's embarrassing! Look! Look! (''Showing the top of his boxers'') That's the English flag underwear! I haven't been able to do laundry and its the last pair I had. Glad it wasn't on camera...

==Notes==
[[Image:UnionJack.jpg|thumb|right|125px|Union Jack]]
[[Image:FlagOfEngland.jpg|thumb|right|125px|Flag Of England]]
* According to Taylor on the Forum's in-character Chat, ''"I was at the park yesterday, not sure why I didn't end up on camera. Probably because I didn't hold anyone up with a fake gun or pants them. That's my sister for you. I was so embarassed!! Hopefully Bree, Daniel, and Jonas don't get the wrong impression."'' This is clearly an error, the description of the video says "Taylor wasn't there".
* This video confirms [[Sarah]] as part of the LG15 canon.
* This is the first time Jonas is shown shirtless.
* The pattern in Daniel's boxers is not actually the English Flag (The Flag of St. George) but rather the British Union Jack. Thus, Daniel's comment about his boxers would have been more accurate if he had said "British Flag" instead of English Flag. But coming from an American teen, this could probably be a common error.
* [[BDJ|The Teen Angst Adventure Gang]] is at [http://www.laparks.org/dos/parks/facility/vannuysSOPk.htm Van Nuys Sherman Oaks Park] in Van Nuys, CA.
* Sarah's unique way of introducing herself is a poke at [[Feminist themes|gender roles]].

Category:Videos directed by Mesh Flinders

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This category contains all the videos directed or co-directed by [[Mesh Flinders]]

[[Category:Videos by director]]
[[Category:Mesh Flinders credits]]

LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony

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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.

For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].

[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

 

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==No uploading??==

The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".

::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?

::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

==Missions Page==
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox

:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Show Template?==
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Any thoughts at all? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?
:::We. Don't. Care.
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007
(CDT)

::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==LGPedia: pages==
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

==I Finished the Missions Page==
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Potential naming problem==
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).

==Portals==
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

== Maddison Atkins ==

Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== Relationships ==

Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Location pages for KM==
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OpAphid

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'''OpAphid''' is a [[YouTube]]/[[Revver]] user who claims to be the leader of the [[OpAPHID|Operation APHID]] division of [[the Order|the Order of Denderah]]. In addition to being an [[Alternate Reality Game]] created by [[Glenn Rubenstein]], OpAphid was once the official ARG of [[lonelygirl15]]. OpAphid used to be recruiting "the worthy" for a future conflict with [[the Resistance]], but appears to have a [[Remember Me?|new agenda]].

==Origin of OpAphid==
[[Image:OpAphid.jpg|thumb|295px|Operation APHID's logo, which appears at the end of most videos.]]
OpAphid can be traced back to its first appearance, the video [[You Made the Right Choice, Bree!]], in response to Bree's [[My Difficult Decision]] video. OpAphid has since posted comments and videos to [[Bree]], [[Daniel]], and [[Cassie]]. These are generally warnings, some of them nicer than others, that insiniuate that OpAPHID is connected to Bree's religion, and that [[Cassie]] and Daniel should watch their step carefully.

==Is She Really Missing?==
OpAphid logged into her [[YouTube]] account on May 24th, 2007, leaving this message:

right there above you
right there above you
right there above you
Oh dear.
--
Rumors of MY death have been greatly exaggerated...
Some things are secret for a reason. There are people whose lives are dedicated to keeping
them that way.

The "Rumors of MY death have been greatly exaggerated..." was once thought to be a clue that [[Brother]] had not actually murdered [[Gemma]].

The message is also speculated to be a [[Cassie]]-esque sign off.

However, OpAphid has recently [[Remember Me?|emerged]] with a vengeance toward her [[OpAPHID|"former associates"]].

==Official [[Alternate Reality Game|ARG]]==
On November 21, 2006, [[The Creators]] [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3152 announced] that OpAphid is a 100% fan-created [[Alternate Reality Game]], but they liked it so much that they contacted [[Glenn Rubenstein|its creator]] and decided to make it the official ARG of [[lonelygirl15]].
However, on April 12, 2007, [[The Creators]] [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8664 announced] that due to a falling out with [[Glenn Rubenstein]], OpAphid would no longer be the official ARG.

While the official ARG, OpAphid [[Miss Me?|kidnapped and brainwashed Daniel]].

==Recurrences of OpAphid videos==
OpAphid's videos are layered to say the least.
There is the surface message of the written and spoken text, the deeper meanings of the text, the text and audio that takes homework, backwards audio, and hieroglyphics.

OpAphid also uses a false ending which appears as if the video has ended and gone to the related video links, but then returns to the real video again before ending. Usually the only thing after the false ending, is OpAPHID's logo.

OpAphid uses video tags, some [[strange tags|strange]], that often match [[Bree|Bree's]], [[Daniel|Daniel's]], or [[Cassie|Cassie's]].

==OpAphid agents and enemies==
OpAphid has two main enemies - [[Tachyon]], and her partner [[Brother]].

Also, OpAphid has agents that track down [[BDJ]] and often other people such as [[Tachyon]], [[Brother]], and [[Maddison Atkins]]. Agents include [[War Pylol]], and OpAphid herself.

==Operation APHID==
The letters in OpAphid are known to stand for the following things.

===A in APHID===
The A in APHID was solved to be '''Analysis'''.

*'''Clue:''' "The first step toward any solution? The A in APHID, of course."
*'''Corresponding video:''' [[Cassie Does Not R.I.P. (Rest In Peace)]], with the tags "A PAIN HID"
*'''Solution:''' Analysis
*'''Profile verifying solution:''' "The first step toward any solution? ANALYSIS. Analyze the data in front of you."


===P in APHID===
The P in APHID was solved to be '''Protect'''.

*'''Clue:''' "...While history is full of subtle clues toward greater secrets, some messages are meant to be taken literally--regardless of any deeper connections we might suspect. Above all others, the P in APHID is our greatest purpose..."
*'''Corresponding video:''' [[You Made the Right Choice, Bree!]], with the tags "HID IN APP"
*'''Solution:''' Protect
*'''Profile verifying solution:''' "To PROTECT is our greatest purpose, above all others. The importance of PROTECTION is essential to understand before any further progress can be made."

===H in APHID===
The H in APHID was solved to be '''Hinder'''.

*'''Corresponding videos:''' [[DO GO TO GOD, Cassie (for my helper)]] and [[Disclosure: Cassie. We Are "They"]], with the tags "HAD IN HIP"
*'''Solution:''' Hinder

===I in APHID===
The I in APHID was solved to be '''Infiltrate'''.

*'''Corresponding video:''' [[Disclosure: Cassie. We Are "They"]], previously with tags "HIP IN AID"
*'''Solution:''' Infiltrate
*'''Profile verifying solution:''' "[[Tachyon]] sought to INFILTRATE our organization. She attempted to use the I in APHID against us."

===D in APHID===
The D in APHID was solved to be '''Destroy'''.

*'''Corresponding video:''' [[Add Poe Hinder Vilification]] (from OpAphid agent [[War Pylol]]), with the tags "PAID HIND"
*'''Solution:''' Destroy
*'''Email verifying solution:''' (''from [[Puzzle (Language Labs)]]'') "In hindsight, it's a miracle we spotted that 'location verified, D in APHID' video in time to arrange for your safe passage to a secure location. Even though there were no casualties when the bomb detonated (sans the corpse we planted to fake your demise), it still doesn't change the fact that it was meant to DESTROY you.

===Op===
The letters "Op" have not been confirmed, though the common concensus is that it stands for '''Operation'''.
However, many think it stands for Observe and Pursue.

===Full Solution===
According to these solutions, OpAphid stands for '''Operation Analysis Protect Hinder Infiltrate Destroy.'''

This solution is much different than the [[OPAPHID]] discussed in the official series by [[Bree]] and [[Gemma]], where it stood for: '''''A'''cknowledge their '''P'''osition and '''H'''elp '''I'''nitiate a '''D'''ialogue.''

==Controversies==
Not everyone is a fan of OpAphid, however.
 
The answer (phone number) to the [[Set of Five]] puzzle was kept secret for the first few hours after it was solved (at the request of OpAphid). We are told it was done to maintain the experience for those who wished to solve the puzzle themselves and earn the "well done" first heard upon calling the phone number. This left a bad taste in the mouths of many, both new players who don't understand why people aren't giving out the answers and veterans who aren't used to a PM who locks down their game to quite this level.
 
OpAphid has since stated that if there are to be any other "grace periods" on revealing the solution to a future puzzle, they will be limited to a span of 2-4 hours. Recent puzzles have had no such restrictions.

==Gamejacking ==
OpAphid has taken credit for [[gamejacking]] Cassie's voice mailbox. Evidence in the video, [[Cassie Does Not R.I.P. (Rest In Peace)]] proves she had the passcode, and complete control of the mailbox.
 

==[[List of OpAphid Videos]]==
*[[You Made the Right Choice, Bree!]]
** ({{youtube|mVcgwBYwNp4|Watch}})
*[[DO GO TO GOD, Cassie (for my helper)]]
**({{youtube|JNbe9R7TgPw|Watch}})
*[[Everyone Hates Cassie: What a poor, lonely girl.]]
**({{youtube|AsGjGubGJak|Watch}})
*[[They Attack Cassie! Is Daniel Next? He Crossed the Line.]]
**({{youtube|oOdSIMZTV7w|Watch}})
*[[What ever happened to that girl, Cassie?]]
**({{youtube|dZYx7160Xek|Watch}})
*[[Cassie is Lying, Cassie Tells Lies]]
**({{youtube|k0rRRLonJLs|Watch}})
*[[Disclosure: Cassie. We Are "They"]]
**({{youtube|gAp4auNdeEI|Watch}})
*[[Which Side Are You On? (Keep This In Mind)]]
**({{youtube|Xyit0njiAmA|Watch}})
*[[Cassie Does Not R.I.P. (Rest In Peace)]]
**({{youtube|bwKImYI3O9k|Watch}})
*[[The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful]]
**({{youtube|FMmhb01nuI4|Watch}})
*[[Adventures in Babysitting]]
**({{youtube|u3gCliC7-gc|Watch}})
*[[Home Alone]]
**({{youtube|QtxH6ScrZeY|Watch}})
*[[The Ends Justify The Means]]
**({{youtube|_vzqPd3fCMs|Watch}})
*[[Lose Something?]]
**({{revver|151617|Watch}})
*[[Miss Me?]]
**({{revver|161454|Watch}})
*[[Remember Me?]]
**({{youtube|PUZL0aYHVUM|Watch}})

==Notes==
*[[Everything You Need To Play OpAphid]]

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[[Category:Unseen characters]]
[[Category:OpAphid]]

LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony

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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.

For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].

[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

 

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==No uploading??==

The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".

::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?

::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

==Missions Page==
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox

:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Show Template?==
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Any thoughts at all? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?
:::We. Don't. Care.
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007
(CDT)

::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==LGPedia: pages==
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

==I Finished the Missions Page==
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Potential naming problem==
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).

==Portals==
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

== Maddison Atkins ==

Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== Relationships ==

Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Location pages for KM==
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:
*By City - "Images of London."
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

== KM Forum Links ==
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

::Oops :X
::My bad, consider it fixed.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

== Re-Organization Day ==

Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

== Need help with title! ==

There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

Girl Power

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{{Blog
| name = Girl Power
| number = 0053
| image = KM0053KateTariq.jpg
| caption = I'm not a crazy person, I just play one online.
| blogger = Charlie
| date = September 9th, 2007
| url = {{KM|62}}
| forumid = 259
| length = 01:32
| description = Thanks so much for helping us decode the puzzle... I think...
| location = [[Pinchin Street|15 Pinchin Street]]


| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| coexecprod = Joanna Shields and Amanda Goodfried
| assocprod = Cristy Coors Beasley
| serprod = Pete Gibbons
| pm = Kelly Brett
| pa = Claire Finbow
| pr = Amy Barnes
| ipa = Jonathan Almond
| directors = Gavin Rowe
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Hazel Grian
| story = Miles Beckett, Luke Hyams, and Hazel Grian
| editor = Sam Rowland and Yusuf Pirhasan
| prodserv = Sniffer Ltd.
| cast = {{VidChar|Charlie}}
{{VidChar|Kate}}
{{VidChar|Tariq}}
{{VidChar|Dudley|Liam Reilly}}

| Previous = Who Watches The Watcher?
| Next = The End

| PreviousB = Girls Are From Venus
| NextB = Tell Kim I Love Her
| KM = yes
}}
'''{{PAGENAME}}''' is the fifty-third webisode in the [[KateModern]] [[List of KateModern videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
'''Charlie:''' Okay, so it turns out Kate's specialist has faked his own death. Thanks to you guys we've figured out that we have to come down here and meet his son, because he knows where the specialist is hiding.

'''Tariq:''' This has got to be the place. It's the right time. Where is this guy?

'''Charlie:''' God, who knows if he's gonna turn up? I mean, what kind of freak pretends that he's a police officer, then fakes his father's death, then sends out cryptic messages for us to meet him here? (''car approaches'') Is that him?

'''Tariq:''' (''attempting to open car door'') Mate, get out! We're waiting for you!

'''Kate''': No Tariq. I'm sorry but you're not coming.

'''Tariq:''' Are you crazy? You're gonna get in this...

'''Kate''': First of all Tariq, I am not crazy.

'''Tariq:''' God, Kate, I didn't mean it like that. You can't go on your own, you don't even know him!

'''Kate''': Tariq, I'm not going on my own. Charlie's coming with me.

'''Tariq:''' Kate, you have to let me go with you, who's going to protect you?

'''Kate''': No, Tariq, you've got to start letting me fight my own battles. You've got to stop doing this. I've just got to go to the doctor's and hear what he's got to say and figure things out for myself.

'''Tariq:''' Please don't do this.

'''Kate''': I'm sorry, Charlie get in the car.

'''Tariq:''' Please just think this through.

'''Kate''': I'm sorry. No. It's fine. Let's just go please.

'''Dudley:''' He can come if he wants you know?...

'''Kate''': I don't want him to, please go. (''yells at Tariq as he chases the car shouting "Kate!"'') Go home!

==Notes==
*The title is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Power term of empowerment] "Girl Power"

Look Back

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{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 0223
| image = 0223-Bree.jpg
| caption = Don't let the opportunity pass you by.
| blogger = Bree
| date = July 2nd, 2007
| url = {{lg15|284}}
| forumid = 11898
| length = 2:43
| description = Find the happiness you had as a child.
| faction = The Order
| status = Public Video
| location = [[The HoO Seminar location]]
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|bree|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko}}



| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| pa = Ian Schwartz
| directors = Mesh Flinders
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Jan Libby
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, Jan Libby, and Ross Berger
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| music supervisor = Seth Jacobs
| song = "The Hymn: Remix" By Kevin Schlanser

| cast =
{{VidChar|Bree}}

| Previous = What Up Blogosphere!
| Next = My Dad Died Too

| PreviousB =
| NextB = Sing Until The End
| PreviousC =
| NextC =

}}
{{EpHeader|223}}

==Transcript==
(''Waves crashing and seagulls can be heard. Camera zooms in on [[Bree]], who opens her eyes as a bell rings. Look back is heard 8 times in the background'')

'''Bree:''' What if every day were like Friday? (''Look Back is heard in the background'') TGIF. We work or go to school all week. And wait for that special day to arrive. (''Camera fades in and out.'') Remember what life was like before you had to go to school or to work? (''Camera fades in and out.'') Before your day started with an alarm clock telling you to get up early? (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out.'') Life was so easy then. So full of joy. So full of your song. It was never a roller coaster ride. You know how you can be feeling high, and then suddenly your world shifts and you're feeling really low? (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out.'') What if your life were as calm and as beautiful as a lake? So many of us are thrashing about in the turbulant ocean of life. Allowing the tide to take us any which way it flows. What if you could remove the push of the tide? (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out.'') Lots of money, an expensive car, a ''huge'' house, a fancy yacht. (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out.'') Designer clothes, celebrity friends, belonging to an elite club. (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out.'') Does any of that stuff bring you the joy and happiness you had as a child? My first memory is walking barefoot through the grass and singing to my parents. (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out.'') Every time I sing my eternal song with the [[Hymn of One]], I feel that joy and happiness. You can feel it too. (''Camera fades in and out.'') Take some time today and remember. Don't let the opportunity pass you by. (''Camera fades in and out.'') You can find your song today. Pull over that expensive car, walk outside that huge house, sail that fancy yacht into its slip. (''Look Back is heard in the background. Camera fades in and out. Bree opens her eyes'') Look back at the time of joy and happiness. And know that you can have it all again with the Hymn of One. (''Camera fades out.'') The Hymn of One sings to you. Can you hear it?

(''Cuts to a shot of the Hymn of One website.'')

'''Bree:''' Contact the Hymn of One, and bring yourself back to the joy and happiness that you had as a child.

==Notes==
*Once again this video ends with [[TCC]].
*This video toys with the idea that [[water theme|water]] signifies bad things to come.
*A "slip" is a docking place for a ship between two piers.
*The words before ''Look Back'' are "Friday Early Low Tide Yacht Club Parents Slip". Fans have speculated that this means on Friday, July 6th, at the early low tide, [[BDJ|TAAG]] should go to the place where [[Jonas]]'s (or [[Sarah]]'s) parents parked their yacht.
*This is the first video posted to the [http://www.youtube.com/user/hymnofone hymnofone account] on [[YouTube]].
*Early low tide on Friday for [[General LA area|California]] is 8:15am but in [[Zavalla|Texas]], where the [[The HoO Seminar location|HoO center]] is believed to be, it's at 1:20am.
*It has been noted that there seems to be a window and door in the reflection of Bree's eyes at 2:18, suggesting all indoor videos for [[the Order]] might be shot in the same room, since the same door and window seem to appear in [[Be Part of Something]]. A man in a white shirt can also be seen reflected in Bree's eyes. This is possibly [[Carl]] or another member of the [[Hymn of One]].
*A bell sounds as Bree's eyes open, just as it did in [[Be Part of Something]].

Category:Proposed Merges

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Jackson Davis

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{{Crew
| name = Jackson Davis
| image = Jackson.JPG
| first = My Name Is Jonas
| age = 24
| birthday = March 19th, 1983
| myspace = JacksDavis
| IMDB = 2576057
| character = [[Jonas]]
| wikipedia = Jackson_Davis
| execprod =
| producer =
| director = yes
| vidplay =
| story =
| editor =
| camera =
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'''Jackson Davis''' is the actor who plays [[Jonas]] in the [[lonelygirl15]] web series. He was born in Gloversville, New York but grew up in Lancaster, PA. He went to Manheim Township schools for most of his childhood.

After graduating from high school, Davis worked a series of odd jobs, including as a concrete construction worker, a factory worker, a bartender, a gas station clerk, a grocery deliverer, and a short stint in security before enlisting in the United States Navy. Unhappy in the Navy, Davis eventually moved to Los Angeles to pursue acting. "It was really that experience that helped me decide to become an actor," he said. "The Navy made me realize that I never wanted to spend any more time doing something I didn't really want to do." [http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/206327]

Before appearing on the show, Jackson had never heard of lonelygirl15, but simply answered a casting notice. He almost walked away from the interview because there was a really long wait, but ended up sticking it out and was cast for the part of [[Jonas]].

Jackson had a small part in CSI:NY on Feb. 14th, 2007 (see {{youtube|bpyT2G-aB6I|clip}}). He's also appeared in a music video for singer Raul Midon (see {{youtube|2IDtySSVyZY|clip}}) and had parts on Wrigleyville, [[In Tune]], another web based series, Ten, and Skye.

For a short while, it was speculated his name had been changed from Franco to Jackson recently through Myspace comments, however Jackson cleared this up himself, when he wrote on his Myspace profile "Just to clear this up... My name is not now, nor has it ever been Franco "

Greatness inspires Jackson. If he weren't an actor, he would like to be a pilot.

 
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