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Talk:Backyard Bikini Patrol

2008-05-22T00:48:32Z

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== pic and caption ==
*honestly... it should be changed to gina. and the caption should be "the doctor and i would always waltz before he did experiments on me!" - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
**Agreed... --Greenie[[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 19:48, 21 May 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Connect With This!

2008-05-07T03:22:15Z

138.210.216.82: New page: ==Lucky 7== ::Anyone else get reminded of Daniel's snake eyes shirt when they saw Gav's lucky 7 shirt? Maybe I'm just grasping at straws... I know nothing about gambling. :P --Greenie ~~~~

==Lucky 7==
::Anyone else get reminded of Daniel's snake eyes shirt when they saw Gav's lucky 7 shirt? Maybe I'm just grasping at straws... I know nothing about gambling. :P --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 22:22, 6 May 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Shop of Horrors!!!

2008-04-12T18:36:03Z

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== Article on Alcombe Antiques ==

I believe it is long overdue for an Alcombe Antiques article. There wouldn't be much information on it, but it is an important part of the current plot. Until the actual location of Alcombe is (not just speculation) is released, it would be smart to at least make a section under [[Minor locations]] for just the general area because the last 3 videos have taken place around Alcombe. I wouldn't be the smartest choice of person to write the page due to my lack of article-style of writing. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Apr. 12, '08 - 1:38 AM}}

== sarah's boobs ==

*i wouldn't exactly propose a page dedicated to sarah's boobs but... how many times has she used her 'conversation skills' to retrieve information? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
:I'd have to say quite a few, but not as much as Sarah's boobs have attracted perverts and haters alike to watching LG15 on youtube and post comments such as "WTF!? WHAT IS THIS!?" {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Apr. 12, '08 - 2:12 AM}}
::I'm kind of almost getting to the point where the more they use them, the more an actual page ''might'' be necessary... though I hate to say it... it might be better to name it Sarah's conversation skills, rather than Sarah's Boobs, though. But see, the C's are VERY clearly using her boobs, so I'd say it's getting quite notable. --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 13:36, 12 April 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Happy Food

2008-04-12T03:47:56Z

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== question ==
* is lauren flirting with lee? is that noteworthy? - platypus
**I noticed it, too... --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 12:29, 10 April 2008 (CDT)
:It looked to me like she was just trying to annoy him, but I could be wrong. If enough people feel that it was flirting, go ahead and add it to the notes. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:44, 10 April 2008 (CDT)
:: I try to annoy my boyfriend all the time ;) --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 22:47, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Happy Food

2008-04-10T17:29:27Z

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== question ==
* is lauren flirting with lee? is that noteworthy? - platypus
**I noticed it, too... --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 12:29, 10 April 2008 (CDT)

User talk:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15

2008-04-10T17:17:08Z

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==Shiori's happy nitpicks==
#The contrast on the vid template is still too low. Can we crank it up or something? The "no image available" image is especially making it look jarring with the low contrast.
##Playing around in Photoshop, #9FC6F0 looks nice for the bars.
##Could you make the image background the darker color? I liked that... (Speaking of the image, tone down the "no image available" one; it's crazy dark.)
#Looks squished. Make layout width:100%, pwease.
#I don't even know if this is even possible, but I'll throw it out there anyway. When the layout is changed to 100% width, and then I make my browser window smaller, the character images eat up the side nav. If you could, fix it on the left and maybe set the width in between the images to a variable width so they'd stretch across the whole top bar?

Looks ''really'' good, Ren! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 14:31, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

:#I ''can'' play around with the colors, but let's first hear other opinions. And the "no image available" one was actually made for the previous proposal, I just uploaded it 'cause it's the default filename if no image was set. I'll upload a new one once we know which color we go with.
:#It's designed for 1024px width; can't make it wider without some more photoshop love. So let's hear what others say, first.
:#Given that the character icons should stay away from the dark blue part, if possible, I'd be opposed to that. But then again, I don't know what exactly you did and didn't do to achieve width: 100%, so I can't even reproduce the problem.
:More opinions, anyone?
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:00, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

What happens if, at some point, we need to have more or less character icons? Does this require an entire redo in photoshop? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:36, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

:The "edit character row" link is there for a reason, Z ;) [[User:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15/Character Row]]
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:21, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

::Right, but what if we add a character, doesn't that throw the width of the character row off? Based on the width of the header? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:14, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

:::Well, depending on how you modify the row, it shrinks or grows...?
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:39, 28 March 2008 (CDT)

{{clr}}
===Vid Template/Image Color(s)===
We're basically agreeing that the colors look good in the vid template, but Ren and I are argue-discussing whether the darker color should be used for the image border or not. So please decide whether the top or bottom version looks better:<br>
[[Image:Compare.gif]]<br>
- [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:34, 30 March 2008 (CDT)

:I like the bottom one better.
::--[[User:TimiN|TimiN]] 19:45, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::I have created an actual (not fabricated :P) comparison:
::[[Image:Portal s3 news color comparison.png|300px]]
::I agree that, put next to each other like this, the darker scheme looks slightly better; but keep in mind that, on the portal, the news are placed next to a giant, dark box, which generates a much different contrast:
::[[Image:Portal s3 news color comparison2.png|300px]]
::And, though I agree the difference is marginal, and the darker scheme doesn't look ''bad'', I do think, placed against the dark box, the lighter scheme works slightly better.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:36, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::My does not think the lighter version is better. :p (When taken from a full-page standpoint, the difference is almost unnoticeable. Meh. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:44, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

==Character Icons==
One problem I have with the design now is that it is not clear that you can click on the individual character icons to view the main characters' pages. The icons simply look like part of the design at present. Perhaps putting the names back under the icons will help people understand that they can click those... or does anyone else have any ideas? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:52, 30 March 2008 (CDT)

:You get the normal link hand icon over them, so those not familiar with mediawiki in general should get it by instinct. And even if they don't, [[Characters]] is the first link in the first content box. In a worst case scenario, a confused person just takes one click longer.
:Not to mention that the names of the current character boxes don't look like links either. I click them because I know from experience they are links, not because it's actually obvious.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:40, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::The hand icon appears over every image, so the fact that they appear on the icons does not provide any real clue to the fact that the images actually take you to the characters' pages. The whole point of putting the icons on the front page like that is to give people an easy way to familiarize themselves with the characters. People won't just automatically click the [[Characters]] link. That's like saying we only need to put the stills from each new video, because people will click on them ''knowing'' they can get to the video transcript pages based on the fact that the hand icon is there... and if not, they'll be able to click the "List of Videos" link on the sidebar, which takes them to the list of videos anyways, so what's the point of listing the videos on the portal page anyways? The point is ease of access, which is why the character icons are there in the first place as well.

::And I think there is a big difference between the character icon placement you proposed and the one we have now. Currently, they are in a separate column and each icon has a box with the name of the character underneath. It is much more obvious that you can click those images and/or the links to learn more about the characters than it is on your proposal, where there is no text and the images just look like part of the header design. I think it's important that people know to click these links, so we should find a way to make it obvious that they can. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:46, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::Random idea: Would overlaying a link-indicating icon or something work? I can't imagine it looking right with text, which is kind of a problem... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:49, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::I added alt text, I think that helps a little. Not sure it solves the problem entirely though... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:55, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::Hence why I said "those not familiar with mediawiki in general should get it by instinct". Those who are new to LGPedia should instinctively react to the cursor change, those who are familiar with LGPedia also know that the portal icons can be clicked.
:::Of course largely labeling them as links would make it clearer, but a caption box like on the current portal will definitely not work. An overlay with the name ''might'' work. But so far, you're the only one mentioning it, so let's hear what others say before we change the design in such a drastic way.
:::In addition, your analogy is wrong - the latest videos are changing almost daily and are on the front page as ''news'', not as permanent content. We are not just providing a link, we are reporting the latest video - and that requires a date at least. In addition, a random still is by far not as clear as a frontal face shot. Some shot of the general LA area, or of Daniel in the rented house, could fit dozens of episodes, so the link wouldn't be clear without text. The List of Videos is also not a replacement, because it shows neither a date or posting, nor a description, nor a viewing link.
:::A link to Daniel's page on Characters ''is'' the same as a link to Daniel's page on the front page.
:::A link with poster on List of Videos is ''not'' the same as a full news post with posting date and watch links.
:::You cannot compare news posts that inform users of the latest information of a video to a static link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:59, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::::Okay, but how is a person supposed to differentiate between the hand icon that comes over the images for the icons and the hand icon that comes over the image for, say, the graphic that says "Lonelygirl15 portal." That image doesn't take them anywhere of relevance, so why should people assume that the icons, which appear to be a part of the larger image, take them anywhere?
::::I agree with you on why we need the whole video template. But I am unsure why this is relevant. Are you trying to argue that the icons shouldn't be there in the first place because they do not report the news? Could you please clarify this?
::::And I completely disagree that a link to Daniel's page on Characters is the same as the link to Daniel's page on the front page. The Characters page contains an image, a clearly identifiable link, and a brief description of the character. The icon on the front page does contain not anything but an image link. And really, on the Characters page, people ''aren't'' supposed to be clicking the image to get to the page (otherwise all of the characters would need images, which most of them do ''not'' have), but the images redirect there as a "just in case."
::::They are not equal. They are different. The icons are on the front page because providing easy links to the main characters is important. We need to find a way to make sure they are emphasized, otherwise they might as well not be there. And unless this is what you are suggesting (in which case we'd need to have an entirely different discussion here), we need to make sure people know they are there and will take them to the content they will, in fact, take them to. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:50, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::Well, I for one would prefer names next to the characters. Now, I think Ren said that would be difficult code-wise (I wouldn't know any better, as that's not my expertise) but I still would lean toward names with the characters if only for new visitors to attach names to the faces they see. And while I'm sure that there won't be so much white space on the Portal -- due to the fact this is merely a sandbox and such -- I do want to express that I'm not a fan of so much blank, empty space (i imagine there's something in the works, right Ren?). Again, maybe it's just me, but those are my thoughts. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:29, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::::::This looks '''awesome''', but I agree with Pheon about the names. I as well am not an expert at coding, but how impossible would it be for it to only say the name when you roll over it? I don't know if that's completely out of the question but I figured I'd throw it out there. Please don't laugh me to scorn! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:37, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::::To take it a step further, (I'm pretty sure it's not possible in the Pedia, so you can just consider it rambling) we could do rollover images to let you know the character's name... I think the best idea would be an alt tag with just the character name and some superimposed image letting you know it's a link. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:43, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::::I can easily code a div that says "Click here for this Character's page - Daniel" or something when you hover over Daniel's pic. If it works in ''Internet Explorer'', however, depends on if the programmers were drunk one day and actually wrote standards compliant code.
::::::You misunderstood me, pheon. Code-wise, it'd be easy to write. But if you add captions to these images, the design is destroyed. Period.
::::::As for the white-space, it's currently fixed width optimized for a 1024x768 resolution. As noted above, I can try creating a variable width version, but that requires a lot more work on the image. However, given that more whitespace is generally regarded as "lighter" and "easier to grasp" by users, and I don't see anything lacking space, I honestly don't quite see the problem. The news boxes would not be smaller anyway - if anything, they would be just as high, but longer, with the descriptions only filling one line, and the content descriptions would all be in one line.
:::::You missed my point, Z. All I was doing was showing how your analogy of comparing the character icons to the news was invalid. I was not making any statements about the validity of any content item on any page.
:::::And btw, the header can easily be turned into a link to the portal to de-confuse the users, or overlayed by an empty div to de-linkify it. Or used as a CSS background image. Or whatever. What matters is not that the header is a link, but that the character icons are links.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:07, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::::::I said it before, and I'll say it again. Variable width FTW. Make it so! (If you can) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:09, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::::The headers are not links anymore and the layout is variable width now.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 01:08, 2 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::::Just added charbox template, generating a special overlay effect on FF and IE 7 and upwards, and also changing the link to the character page directly, not to the image page. (Thus making very obvious that this image is a link to a character, not to an image page.)
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:48, 5 April 2008 (CDT)
I have no criticism at all. Maybe it's that I'm not good at this stuff, so I think it looks perfect. Either way LOVE IT!!!! Can't wait to see the finished product. --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 12:17, 10 April 2008 (CDT)

Talk:It's The Doing That Matters

2008-03-22T15:50:21Z

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My favourite video thus far. Like a bit of a PSA... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:57, 17 March 2008 (CDT)

== jessica rose video ==

*does anybody remember the video jessica rose did (not as bree) about poverty or hunger? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
:It actually was as Bree, but not as an official part of the lonelygirl15 series. Anyways, the video is [[Stand Up Lonelygirl15]]. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:12, 18 March 2008 (CDT)
:*is this a fair comparison? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
::Well, no one's saying the videos are comparable on every level, just in the aspect that they both bring up humanitarian concerns. I think that's a fair assessment.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:16, 18 March 2008 (CDT)

== Jennie's Universe ==

I kinda think that Gina situation is much like Bree's in the sense that it disrupts. Now, I'm not saying that they're a nuisance. I'm just saying that in order to help them, you gotta be dedicated. Daniel, Sarah, and Jonas had to drop everything to help save Bree. Er, or attempt to. Although Gina's case isn't as urgent and seems kinda stupid, it's kinda the same thing. In order to help Gina, you gotta set aside everything that ''was'' important to you and focus on Gina. Maybe Jennie's complaining because her thing makes people feel guilty. I mean, setting aside world poverty to help someone find their sister's mom... I'd feel guilty too. But it's all about dedication.

-sigh- Sometimes, I hate Gina. I hate her for a few reasons sometimes. Like, stealing Sarah's man (even though Sarah's looking at Creepy Carl), being Bree's replacement (lots of people thought Emma was Bree's replacement. But, I think Gina fits that more appropriately), and just other random small things. But. It's ''Bree's'' sister. You can't hate Bree's sister. Bree'll strike me down. o.o;
-[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 23:49, 18 March 2008 (CDT)

== Wir Sind Helden? ==

Does anyone notice that, yes, while having similarities to the Bob Dylan video, it also has similarities to the Wir Sind Helden Video, "Nur ein Wort"? Seems like a fair assesment, considering the signs and the black and white. Just my opinion, though. --[[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 10:50, 22 March 2008 (CDT)