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Finding Help

2007-11-04T02:22:57Z

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{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 299
| image = 0299 ClairPonytail.jpg
| caption = We have ''absolutely'' no time to waste.
| blogger = Jonas
| date = September 26th, 2007
| url = {{lg15|370}}
| forumid = 14225
| length = 5:07
| description = Daniel, Sarah, I know you guys are upset, but I had to take Emma and try to figure all this out.
| faction = The Resistance
| status = Public Video
| location = [[LaRezisto locations#Hideout In The Woods|Claire's hideout]]
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|LG15|bree|danielbeast|daniel|jonastko|jonas|emma|train|serum|trait|positive|negative }}

| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Marcello Daciano
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Jan Libby and Miles Beckett
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Jan Libby
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| music supervisor = Seth Jacobs

| song =
| cast = {{VidChar|Jonas}}
{{VidChar|Emma}}
{{VidChar|Virgil|Joe Rubin}}
{{VidChar|Claire|Shelby Kocee}}

| Previous = Student Film
| Next = No More Lies

| PreviousB = Stakeout... With A Girl
| NextB = Watch Your Back
| PreviousC =
| NextC =
}}
{{EpHeader|299}}

==Transcript==

(''Emma and Jonas are walking through tall grass.'')

'''Emma:''' Okay, I have no idea... where we are right now.

'''Jonas:''' Careful. Wa-wa-watch-watch your step here. Wa-watch out. Are we still going north?

'''Emma:''' Um, hold on. Let's see. (''Pulls out a small red compass.'') I don't... north is that way. I mean-that's-that's what it looks like. The bubble's on the end. That means north, right?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, that means north.

'''Emma:''' Yeah, then okay. Then that way. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Did you hear something?

'''Jonas:''' No. What did you hear?

'''Emma:''' I just heard, like, footst-- I dunno. Just go. I thought I heard something.

'''Jonas:''' Let's take a break. What do you say?

'''Emma:''' No! It's fine. Let's just keep going.

'''Jonas:''' No, you know what? Just for me. Let's take a little water break. Let's... regroup.

'''Emma:''' Heh, all right. (''They both sit down.'') Why did I wear shorts? I'm getting, like, scratched up.

'''Jonas:''' You okay?

'''Emma:''' Yeah, I'm fine.

'''Jonas:''' Okay, I think if we just keep heading north, I mean, it's a military complex, right? We're gonna run into it. We're almost there. I promise. (''kisses Emma on the head'') Let's go, let's keep moving. You wanna hold the camera?

'''Emma:''' Yeah, thanks.

(''Scene cuts to Jonas and Emma sitting down once more.'')

'''Jonas:''' So we stopped to take another break. Still haven't come up to this military base yet but I know, it's gotta be right around here. Listen - Daniel, Sarah, I know you're upset. You guys - you just gotta have a little faith. Okay? I do. I mean, I had my doubts about the Resistance at first. But let's just - let's just look at the facts here. They never lied to us once - not once! They told me about my parents and Emma. They told me she was trait positive. And that I needed to save her. Yeah, I don't know what else they can do to prove themselves. And now I get this message, from this Claire person, and look - if they want us to be here, then this is where we're going to be. You guys, you gotta understand! This thing, whatever it is that she has, we nee-we need it. Okay? We weren't enough for Bree. We're not going to be enough for Emma - not without this. I'm here, and I'm taking Emma to meet Claire, heh, and it's gonna work out. It's gonna be okay. All right? Trust me.

(''Cut to Jonas and Emma walking once more, uphill. Jonas spots something.'')

'''Jonas:''' Get the fu--! Sh, sh, sh.

'''Emma:''' What?

'''Jonas:''' It's a freakin' [[Watcher]]. That's why. I think it's the same one from last week.

'''Emma:''' Are you kidding me?

'''Jonas:''' No.

'''Emma:''' Jonas, are you sure we can really trust this woman? I really think that we were set up.

'''Jonas:''' Of course we can trust her.

'''Emma:''' You sure?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

(''Jonas pulls out a gun and aims it at [[Virgil]], the Watcher.'')

'''Virgil:''' Hey--!

(''A shot is fired and Virgil goes down. Emma screams.'')

'''Jonas:''' Who'd that come from?!

'''Emma:''' I dunno! That wasn't you?

'''Jonas:''' No. Whoa!

(''Claire steps from behind a tree. Jonas quickly points a gun at her and Claire pulls up her hands.'')

'''Claire:''' I'm Claire. Are you Emma? Are you all right?

'''Emma:''' Yeah.

'''Jonas:''' You're Claire?

'''Claire:''' Jonas? It's fine.

'''Jonas:''' That's Claire. That's Claire.

'''Claire:''' Are you okay? Are both of you okay?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''Emma:''' Yeah, I'm fine.

'''Claire:''' Okay, we need to move on very quickly. Let's go. (''She stands in front of Emma.'') Emma are you okay?

'''Emma:''' Yeah.

'''Claire:''' What-what's that? Is that a scratch on your leg? Where did you get that? Are you fine?

'''Emma:''' Yeah, I'm fine.

'''Claire:''' Are you sure?

(''Cuts to Claire leading them into a rundown building.'')

'''Jonas:''' What you guys do for food and water around here?

'''Claire:''' There's plenty.

(''Jonas helps Emma up onto a platform into a room.'')

'''Emma:''' Nice.

'''Claire:''' Okay, you're ready to start training?

'''Emma:''' What, me?

'''Claire:''' Yeah, we have to start right now. We have ''absolutely'' no time to waste. Are you ready?

'''Emma:''' No, I'm actually kinda tired. I just walked--

'''Claire:''' Okay, I know you're tired, but we have to start now. We don't have time.

'''Emma:''' Ugh...

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, I know. She's right. You should go.

'''Emma:''' Well--

'''Jonas:''' You should get started.

'''Claire:''' Emma, I'll show you a place to change. Let's go.

'''Emma:''' Okay--

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, you're gonna be okay. Gimme a hug and I'll take the camera. Come here. You're gonna be okay. This is good.

'''Emma:''' Okay.

'''Jonas:''' Hey, Claire!

'''Claire:''' Yeah?

'''Jonas:''' You don't mind if I like look around..?

'''Claire:''' Jonas, I don't care. You can do what you want.

'''Jonas:''' Great. Emma!

(''Emma gives him a thumbs up with a sullen look and walks away with Claire. He laughs softly.'')

'''Jonas:''' She's gonna be fine. She's gonna be fine. (''Jonas explores the broken down surroundings in various places.'') Not exactly the military compound that I had in mind. In the middle of absolutely nowhere. Wonder how many girls have been trained here. I don't even know if these stairs will hold us. This place is ''freaking'' me out. (''Cut to Jonas filming Emma and Claire training.'') Claire's been-been teaching Emma some techniques that will help her harness this power, this whatever it is she has. It's really great to see Emma just kinda throwing herself into it. I mean, I don't think she wanted to be here at first. But now, look at her. Look at her smile. It's like... Claire's the older sister she never had - teaching her things, lessons that she's learned, protecting her. Heh, I am so glad we're here. You know what? Sarah, Daniel? This is the right thing to do. I'm sure of it.

==Notes==
*The techniques that Claire are teaching Emma are very similar to the ones that Lucy taught Bree, thus giving more evidence to the theory that the Resistance could be the Order.
*If Claire is indeed a member of the Order then she may play a role similar to Lucy - that of a Helper.
*The techniques Claire is teaching also resenble Tai Chi Chuan, which supported the theory that trai+e girls moulded chi.

Category:Story credits for Greg Goodfried

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[[Greg Goodfried]] wrote parts of the lonelygirl15 story in the following groups.

[[Category:Greg Goodfried credits]]
[[Category:Story credits]]

LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony

2007-11-04T02:21:32Z

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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.

For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].

[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

 

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==No uploading??==

The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".

::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?

::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

==Missions Page==
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox

:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Show Template?==
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Any thoughts at all? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?
:::We. Don't. Care.
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007
(CDT)

::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==LGPedia: pages==
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

==I Finished the Missions Page==
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Potential naming problem==
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).

==Portals==
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

== Maddison Atkins ==

Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== Relationships ==

Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Location pages for KM==
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:
*By City - "Images of London."
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

== KM Forum Links ==
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

::Oops :X
::My bad, consider it fixed.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

== Re-Organization Day ==

Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

== Need help with title! ==

There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

== Vandalism ==
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)

:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)

::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:But it's so annoying having to go around stopping the spam. I just spent a good part of my morning chasing around some spammers. I feel like ''I'' spammed the recent changes page. Lol, if you go look there, there's a whole page of just my edits. It's quite embarassing. I know it would cut a whole bunch of ppl out of the loop, but I kinda wish the username verification system was in place. I'm so selfish. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 04:16, 25 October 2007 (PST)

I don't usually make comments on pages like this, but I thought I'd point a few things out. 
-In the last day, there have been 68 edits by anonymous users. 55 of those edits were made by IPs currently banned for being a vandal. 
-5 of those remaining 13 were reverted. 
 
As far as edits go that actually "improved" this wiki... 
-2 were people reverting poor edits (one was me!). 
-There was an edit that corrected who posted clues to Emma's code. 
-One changed a period to a question mark. 
-Three edits were right after each other, and probably could've just been one. 
-There was an edit to theories about Purple Monkey, which is a funny section. 

--[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 16:38, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

:Ricket makes a good point. Surely Registering for an account can't be that big of a deal? I see a lot more benefits than, er, non-benefits, from requiring a username to make edits. From what I've seen, of the dozens of spammers/vandals banned, only one or two were registered users. But seeing as so many people are against it, maybe we could require some question to be answered? (I don't mean 1+4=?, I mean Basic things that anyone who has ever seen the show would know: "The 'p' in "P. Monkey" stands for..." "The lonelygirl15 is _____'s account", stuff like that? EDIT: Questions are for unregistered users, of course.--[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:09, 30 October 2007 (EST)

::Erm, no. Maybe ''that'' would be a hassle. I mean, ''that'' will discourage even more users from editing. (Laziness factor) I've been up until 5 in the morning on LG15 ('cause I have no life) and about more than 90% of the vandalisms that occur during that time is from non-registered people. I've only seen one registered user vandalize and one non-registered person actually contribute to the LGPedia. I do understand that we are trying to include everyone, and that that's what a wiki is all about, but you gotta decide which is th lesser evil: Cutting out non-registered people out and prevent vandalism, or allow everyone to participate even if that includes vandalism. I doubt that this xwestsidex fellow isn't gonna stop any time soon. And who knows? Maybe other people who aren't xwestsidex will vandalize under that alias, just for the fun of vandalizing. Then the problem will ''never'' go away. I don't think, in my opinion, it's worth it. It'll just make the LG15 experience more enjoyable and less of a chore to edit. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 11:57, 30 October 2007 (PST)

== KMProduction and Sophie Recap vids deleted?? ==

Just wondering, why were my KateModern Production and Sophie Recap videos deleted? The pages, I mean. The KateModern Production videos are very much a part of KM and the Sophie Recap videos were posted on the official KateModernLG15 YouTube account, as well as Sophie's own Bebo. And Sophie is just as much official as Nikki B is on LG. So, why were they deleted? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:40, 30 October 2007 (CDT)

:Looking at the [[Special:Log/Delete|deletion log]], [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] put "see [[Talk:Portal:KateModern]]" (I added the link) as the reason for the deletion. I looked there and there seems to be part of an explanation for why the videos shouldn't be included in the official list, but I'm not sure why they can't have pages. Back in the [[List of New Girl Candidates|new ceremony girl]] phase, there were a lot of videos that got pages because they were related to the lonelygirl15 story. Unless there's an explanation somewhere that I'm missing, I'm for restoring the video pages. But since Zoey deleted them, I'll wait for her response before I do anything.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:45, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

::I understand Zoey's point but I still think that since the videos were made by the official KM team, they should at least have pages on here. Don't include them in the list, as they're not canon persay, but they still deserve a page.
::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:50, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

I deleted the KateModern production videos because they are ''not'' official videos by any means, they are just BTS extras for anyone who wants to watch them. Not to mention, they are heavily edited and would be hard to transcribe. There's really no purpose to doing so because they don't futher the story in any way. It's like offering a "script" to the bonus features on a DVD. That seems silly. Why not just link to the bonus features and let whomever wants to enjoy them enjoy them?

About Sophie's videos, I removed them because, they, too, would be hard to transcribe, and are literally just recuts of what already exists in all of the previous transcripts, whereas the lg15 recaps are actual... recaps. But the big deciding factor for me was their lack of placement in the official list of Katemodern videos on the Bebo page.

I know that we created a bajillion pages way back in the day of the "new girls," and I'm on purpose trying to avoid going that route again. It was chaos trying to keep up, and I was the one who ended up taking the grunt of the work. For me, it's way more important to focus on videos that are actually important in furthering the two main story than "extras" that are unnecessary and can be understood by watching the other videos or reading the other transcripts. If someone wants to ''personally'' take responsibilty for the maintenance of the pages, and not just create them and never transcribe them... or start out working on them and then give up (meaning this would be something you'd have to keep up long term, because I do not personally see the point of doing any more than just linking to the pages and will therefore not be responsible for their upkeep), then fine, I will undelete them. But if they are just going to sit there as halfway completed pages, there is no reason for them to be created as pages on here. They aren't official, they don't further the stories, and they can, and most likely ''will'' end up just cluttering the LGPedia if people don't actively take responsiblity for them. So yes, that was my logic, at least. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

:'''PS''' I thought I should note, the recap videos haven't been ''totally'' removed from the LGPedia by any means. They are still listed on: [[Sophie]]. And the BTS videos are still listed on [[KateModern]].

Who Is This?

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{{Blog
| name = Who Is This?
| number = 0041
| image = Who Is This.jpeg
| caption = Is that a phone in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
| blogger = Daniel
| date = Septempber 27th, 2006
| url = {{lg15|68}}
| forumid = 1047
| length = 0:56
| description = I went over to Bree's to try and work things out. I have no idea what's going on...
| location = [[Bree's bedroom#Area surrounding Bree.27s house|Near Bree's house]]
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|huh|weird|house|bree|woman}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Miles Beckett
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
| camera = Miles Beckett
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Amanda Goodfried
| editor = Kevin Schlanser and Miles Beckett
| cast =
{{VidChar|Daniel}}
{{VidChar|Lucy|Cameos#Jessi Williams{{!}}Jessi Williams}}
{{VidChar|Bree}}


| Previous = My Difficult Decision
| Next = My Helper
| PreviousB = How Could You?
| NextB = Where Are They Going?
}}
{{EpHeader|41}} [[Daniel]] catches his first glimpse of [[Bree|Bree's]] helper [[Lucy]].

==Transcript==
(''Daniel is driving in his car. The camera is on the passenger seat, all that can be seen are his jeans and a bulge in his pocket, possibly a cell phone.'')

'''Daniel:''' I miss the old [[Bree]]. She was just so much fun to be around, and that's kind of... that's kinda what we used to have.

(''Daniel is filming a two-floor, suburban home. Presumably, this is Bree's house.'')

'''Daniel:''' Her [[Bree's parents|parents]] won't let me talk to her.

(''A silver car pulls into the driveway, and a woman, later identified as [[Lucy]], gets out.'')

'''Daniel:''' Who is this? ...the hell?

(''The woman goes to the front door, Bree comes out of the house and walks over to the car.'')

'''Daniel:''' Where the hell is she going?

(''Daniel follows them through traffic. Eventually they are in a field, where Lucy appears to show Bree some breathing exercises.'')

'''Daniel:''' So, she just drove Bree out here. And...

(''Daniel suddenly points the camera downward.'')

== Notes ==
* This is the first of two videos in which Daniel follows Bree in his car and passes a [[Yield sign|yield sign]].
* This is the first time we see the outside of Bree's house.
* This is the first appearance of [[Lucy]] in a video. It is also the first appearance of any member for [[the Order]] besides [[Bree]] and [[Bree's parents#Father|her father]].

Should I Or Shouldn't I?

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{{Blog
|blogger = Bree
|name = [[Should I Or Shouldn't I?]]
|image = Should I.jpeg
|caption = "I'm a little annoyed and for once it's not at Daniel!"
|number = 0031
|date = September 8th, 2006
|url = {{lg15|55}}
| forumid = 54
|length = 2:09
|description = Daniel invited me to a party, and my Dad said I couldn't go... but I'm thinking of going anyway...
|song =
| location = [[Bree's bedroom]]
|tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|party|dad|mom|go|ceremony|practice|sable}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Miles Beckett
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Amanda Goodfried
| editor = Miles Beckett


| cast =
{{VidChar|Bree}}
|Previous = I Want to Take Bree to a Party!
|Next = I'm Going to the Party!
| PreviousB = Poor Pluto
}}
{{EpHeader|31}}

==Transcript==
'''Bree:''' Okay, so...I'm a little annoyed and for once it's not at [[Daniel]]! Daniel invited me to this party on Saturday and I want to go. I've never been to a party before, and I think that Daniel's right. Sometimes I take things too seriously. I asked my [[Bree's parents#Father|Dad]] if I could go, and I said that Daniel would take me and that we'd be home really early and he said no. The reason he said I couldn't go was because I still had too much (''Bree makes air quotes'') "preparing" to do. I prepare all day. (''cut to Bree pacing'') I do exercises, I memorize passages, I'm learning a language that no one has spoken in like-- (''cut to Bree back in her chair'') --and when I brought that up my Dad said that this was a huge honor and that if I didn't want to do it then-- (''Bree jumps and glances quickly at the door) (whispers'') My mom's here! (''Bree makes air quotes'') "They're talking." My mom usually takes my side. I'm gonna go try again. (''Bree gets up and leaves the room) (cut to Bree sitting back down in her chair, she now talks in a normal voice'') Okay. So that was an exercise in futility. For once, my mom sided with my dad. (''cut to Bree sitting on her bed'') I have to admit that I'm kinda thinking about going to that party anyway. (''Bree rolls her eyes and falls over backwards) (cut to Bree hanging over the back of her chair'') I just feel like Daniel kind of went out of his way to come to my play after all that stuff that my dad said. I feel like it's the least I could do. (''cut to Bree in background, kicking her bed once, and then walking back to the chair'') Ok, I gotta to go to bed now. Goodnight. (''Bree smiles, but doesn't look happy'')

==Notes==

Talk:Main Page/Archive from Dec-Jan 2007

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getdronch
== Columns? ==

Might something like this be easier to read in the future? I mean, for now the front page looks pretty good, but when that right-hand column gets far beyond the length of what's on the left, might a re-formatting be in order?
{{Multi-column numbered list|1|
[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]<li>[[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]]<li>[[School Work in Summer... BLECHH!!!]]<li>[[The Danielbeast]]<li>[[Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.]]<li>[[My Parents Suck...]]<li>[[Daniel Responds]]<li>[[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]]<li>[[Proving Science Wrong!]]<li>[[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]]<li>[[Boy Problems...]]<li>[[Girl Problems...]]
<li>[[He Said, She Said]]
<li>[[My Lazy Eye (and P. Monkey gets Funky!)]]
<li>[[Proving Science Wrong... with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15]]
<li>[[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]]
<li>[[Daniel The Neanderthal]]
<li>[[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]]
<li>[[What Bree's Dad Said...]]
<li>[[Me, Religion, and Daniel :(]]
<li>[[I Probably Shouldn't Post This...]]
<li>[[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]]
<li>[[A Peace Offering (and P. Monkey Boogies)]]
<li>[[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)]]
<li>[[I'm Really, Really, Really Excited!]]
<li>[[Swimming!]]
<li>[[Bree The Cookie Monster]]
<li>[[A Change In My Life]]
|27|
<li>[[Poor Pluto]]
<li>[[I Want to Take Bree to a Party!]]
<li>[[Should I Or Shouldn't I?]]
<li>[[I'm Going to the Party!]]
<li>[[House Arrest]]
<li>[[In The Park]]
<li>[[What's A Date?]]
<li>[[My First Kiss]]
<li>[[Learning To Drive]]
<li>[[The Equinox]]
<li>[[How Could You?]]
<li>[[My Difficult Decision]]
<li>[[Who Is This?]]
<li>[[My Helper]]
<li>[[How My Parents Met]]
<li>[[Where Are They Going?]]
<li>[[Daniel Crossed The Line]]
<li>[[Order of Denderah]]
<li>[[Zodiac of Denderah]]
<li>[[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]]
<li>[[The Ceremony Is Tomorrow :)]]
<li>[[The Ceremony]]
<li>[[I Completed The Ceremony]]
<li>[[Following The Helper]]
<li>[[Daniel, Be Careful...]]
<li>[[Where's Daniel?]] [[Nut Kills Man]] (Gemma)
<li>[[I'm Hiding Out]]
|27|
<li>[[I Lied To Daniel]] [[Living In London]] (Gemma)
<li>[[I Listened To Daniel]]
<li>[[Hi Gemma!]]
<li>[[It's Not Your Decision]]
<li>[[I Talked To My Parents]]
<li>[[Proving Longitude Wrong]]
<li>[[Thanks Gemma...]]
<li>[[They Disappeared...]]
<li>[[What Makes Us Sad?]]
<li>[[Life's Not Fair]]
<li>[[Still At Daniel's]]
<li>[[Where Are My Parents?]]
<li>[[Horrid Flatmates]]
<li>[[On The Run]]
<li>[[Learning Egyptian]]
<li>[[Motel Pool]]
<li>[[Don't Trust The Authorities]]
<li>[[Exploring The Motel]]
<li>[[Someone's Following You]]
<li>[[Man In The Suit]]
<li>[[Breakfast In Bed]]
<li>[[A Watcher]]
|}}
Man that's sloppy. Still, there's gotta be a way to make it work better.--[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 16:18, 17 November 2006 (PST)

Why not a click through to a page with a directory of videos like you have above. The bigger the list gets the more its going to be needed that anyway. It was nice while it lasted having them on the home page but is it essential? Yes, they are really important but I could probably live with them being on their own page.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 16:41, 17 November 2006 (PST)

:I was just thinking that it might be nice to be able to simple create a list of Bree, Daniel or Gemma vidoes. I dont know of any non manual way to do that but perhaps there is some Web 2.0/Ajax feature that would allow the creation of a table that could be sorted by Character or any other parameter listed. This is just food for thought but if anyone knows how to actually do that it would be brilliant.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 14:28, 22 November 2006 (CST)

:modelmotion, that would be fine except i enjoyt just going to the main page and beig able to see whether there's been a new video. maybe we could do that but keep a list of the last x videos on the main page? --[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:17, 11 December 2006 (CST)

== Bring down the Chat Headline.. ==

Seems to me there are no more edits we can get from this also its on the main page, so i dont think it should be a headline no more...---Iris2009

The Perfect Beach

2007-11-03T23:14:05Z

207.163.116.20:

acelouol
{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 0172
| image = Theperfectbeach_daniel_alex_jonas.JPG
| caption = This really ''is'' the picture-perfect beach destination, huh guys?!
| blogger = Bree
| date = April 13th, 2007
| url = {{lg15|228}}
| forumid = 8767
| description = Alex took us to her favorite beach in Mexico. Things didn't go *quite* as planned.
| location = [[Beaches#Beaches in Mexico|A beach]], [[Mexico]]
| faction = The Resistance
| status = Public Video
| length = 2:41
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|beach|alex|order|gun|crazy|horrible|betrayal|pigeon|sand|sun}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Miles Beckett
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| song =
| cast =

{{VidChar|Daniel}}
{{VidChar|Jonas}}
{{VidChar|Alex}}
{{VidChar|Lucy|Amanda Goodfried}}
{{VidChar|Bree}}

| Previous = Spanglish
| Next = About The Gun
| PreviousB = Confrontation
| NextB = New Girl
| PreviousC =
| NextC =
}}
{{EpHeader|172}}

==Transcript==
'''Daniel:''' Bree, are you sure you don't want me to film? Anyways, so we're out here in lovely (''with a Spanish accent'') "Me-he-co". Why do I have to carry the...murse?

'''Jonas:''' Because you're the bi--

'''Alex:''' Because I said so. (''laughter with Daniel and Alex'')

'''Daniel:''' And Alex apparently says that this is the most wonderful beach in the world.

'''Alex:''' It's true!

'''Daniel:''' Why is that Alex? What makes this beach any better than anything else?

'''Alex:''' First of all, the sand is never too hot. And the water's never too cold. There's shade, so you don't have to bring one of those disgusting tents.

'''Daniel:''' Redneck teepee! We used to sell those at [[Gas 'n Eats]]. My family definitely had some. Well, what else makes this the place to be?

'''Alex:''' I don't know, memories.

'''Daniel:''' Like who? You and family?

'''Alex:''' Sure...

'''Daniel:''' You didn't say that too convincingly. What was that look for?

'''Alex:''' I don't know, if you spent time with someone from your past.

'''Daniel:''' Like who? A friend? Like... your accountant? Your dog?

'''Alex:''' Don't have a dog!

'''Daniel:''' Cat?! Don't tell me you're bringing us somewhere where your ex-boyfriend and you used to make--

'''Alex:''' What?! It's an amaz--

'''Daniel:''' I am going home! I'm not even going down there.

'''Alex:''' Get over it, Daniel!

'''Daniel:''' Did you make out under that rock over there?

(''Jonas makes noise (la la la la la) so he can't hear what Alex is saying.'')

'''Alex:''' No! (''Alex starts laughing.'')

'''Jonas:''' I don't want to hear it.

(''Briefly hear a siren, probably start to song that plays while they frolic on the beach. Then cuts to them walking back to the car'')

'''Jonas:''' Thanks, Alex, that was...

'''Alex:''' I think I got a sunburn.

'''Daniel:''' Did you?

'''Alex:''' Probably got too much sun, you know.

'''Daniel:''' On your shoulders?

'''Jonas:''' (''picks up a small rock and holds it up to the camera'') I'll throw it. (''Bree and Jonas laugh'') Let's go eat, I'm hungry!

'''Alex:''' Me too.

'''Jonas:''' (''opens the car door'') You got it?

(''A black car is seen approaching from the background'')

'''Bree:''' (''from behind the camera'') Oh my god...

(''Jonas turns around to see the car, then turns back to Bree'')

'''Jonas:''' Bree! Run! Run to the beach!

(''Cut to Jonas, Daniel, and Alex all screaming by the other side of the car'')

'''Daniel:''' (''screaming at Alex'') Did you set this up?

'''Alex:''' No, I--

'''Daniel:''' Is this you? Did you do this?!

'''Alex:''' (''screaming back'') Why would I do--

'''Jonas:''' You are unbelievable!

'''Alex:''' Jonas I-- (''over the top of Jonas'') Why--

'''Jonas:''' You are un--you are unbelievable!

'''Alex:''' I don't have a choice!

'''Jonas:''' Who are you?!

'''Alex:''' (''crying'') I don't have a choice, alright?! I still have to do--

'''Daniel:'''(''holds her face, softly'') What's going on. What is going on.

'''Alex:''' They're not here for you anyway, they're here for me, I have one more--

(''Meanwhile, Jonas has gone around to the front passenger seat, gone in and taken something out. As he holds it up it is revealed to be a gun'')

'''Jonas:''' Just stand there!

'''Daniel:''' Jesus Christ!

'''Alex:''' Whoa!

'''Daniel:''' What are you doing?!

'''Jonas:''' Get away from me right now! Get away from me!

(''Daniel holds up his hands in defense, but is overpowered by Jonas who is still screaming in his face and waving the gun'')

'''Daniel:''' Get it away!

'''Jonas:''' Get away from me!

'''Alex:''' (''screaming'')I have one more-- ...stuff--

'''Jonas:''' (''to Alex'') Go over there! Go with your people!

'''Alex:''' ---I can't leave yet!

'''Jonas:''' Shut up! I don't wanna hear it.

'''Alex:''' (''calmed'') They're here for me. They don't need you anymore, Bree.

'''Daniel:''' (''over to of Alex'') What is (''unintelligible'')

'''Alex:''' They have another girl!

(''She advances to the camera as Daniel tries to hold her back'')

'''Daniel:''' Get in the car!

(''Jonas goes around to the driver's side, still pointing the gun at the black car'')

'''Daniel:''' Let's go. Dude, put the gun down! Let's just go.

(''Jonas gets in the car, Daniel starts yelling again'')

'''Daniel:''' What the hell is going on?! Where'd you even get that thing?

'''Jonas:''' (''mumbles'') Never mind.

'''Daniel:''' (''still shouting'') What do you mean, never mind?! We're in Mexico and you have a gun!

'''Jonas:''' (''calm'') It's a good thing I had it.

==Notes==
* It has been speculated that the "other girl" mentioned may refer to [[Maddison Atkins]], from the maddisonatkins videos on [[Revver]] and [[YouTube]], yet it may just be that the "other girl" is actually [[Cassie]], a girl named [[Jules]], or [[Alex]] herself. (Though with [[Nikki Bower]]'s recent video mentioning a nameless "girl", Nikki is also a possibility.) However, in Nikki's video [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates]], she says that she may have found the girl. Her username was [[Callmejules24]]. Bree seemed to agree with Nikki in her video, [[New Girl]].
*This is the first time one of the main characters has handled a gun.
*[[Bree]] films the video, but is not seen throughout it.
*You can see [[Lucy]] at 2:03 and again between 2:22 and 2:23.
*A second different car is visible driving off after the first car.
*The first car to [[Media:OrderCars.jpg|drive off]] does not seem to have anyone in the back.
*A man in sunglasses and a suit can be seen standing behind the first car along with a woman in sunglasses and a suit standing to the right of the car as seen from the front.
*Many "omens" or foreboding features are present in this video:
**Jonas is wearing a [[cap]].
**Alex is wearing all black.
**A good portion of the video takes place near the [[water theme|ocean]], part of a theme of danger and uncertainty in the series.
*A "murse" refers to a purse that a man carries or a "man-purse".
*The growing [[Relationships#Daniel and Alex|affections]] of Alex and Daniel are shown twice. In the "beach frolic" montage there is a clip of Daniel carrying Alex and in the confrontation at the car Daniel endearingly attends to Alex, holding her head softly and speaking calmly.
*This video was uploaded to YouTube on April 19th, 2007 but was taken down. It was put back up on April 20th, 2007.

HOLY SH%T!!!

2007-11-03T16:55:31Z

207.163.116.20:

ordronalac
{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 0208
| image = 0208-BonasKiss.jpg
| caption = So, Jonas... still think that she "[[Foosball|kisses like a dead fish]]"?
| blogger = Sarah
| date = June 7th, 2007
| url = {{lg15|268}}
| forumid = 11130
| length = 1:19
| location = [[The rented cabin]]
| description = LOL . . . I'm a good spy.
| faction = The Resistance
| status = Public Video
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|bree|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|sarah}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| pa = Ian Schwartz
| directors = Mesh Flinders
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Jan Libby
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, Jan Libby, Ross Berger and Jake Coburn
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| song = "Discovery" by Kevin Schlanser

| cast =
{{VidChar|Jonas}}
{{VidChar|Bree}}
{{VidChar|Sarah}}

| Previous = Taking Advantage of Her
| Next = The Morning After

| PreviousB = Entertaining Myself
| NextB = Everybody Does It ;)
| PreviousC =
| NextC =
}}
{{EpHeader|208}}

==Transcript==

(''Suspenseful music plays in the background. The camera shows a shot of a door, then pans up some stairs to a clock: it is 9:00. Sarah, who is holding the camera, walks up the stairs and into another room. She walks through the room to another door, and when she opens it, she steps onto an outdoor porch. After a crescendo, the music now becomes tender and intimate. Through the porch railings, Sarah reveals Jonas and Bree, sitting on a wicker bench, next to a porch swing. Suddenly, they begin kissing -- quite passionately, too -- and the camera zooms in. When it zooms back out, Sarah appears on screen and shakes her finger in a scolding manner.'')

'''Sarah:''' (''whisper'') Naughty, naughty...

==Notes==
* This is the third kiss talked about between the main characters, but this video contains the first on-screen [[Relationships#Bree and Jonas|kiss]] in the [[Breeniverse]] (aside from the [[My First Kiss|famous kiss]] between Bree and [[Thor]]).
* This video appeared briefly on LG15 Today as an embed while the Revver file loaded, it had all music that played over the dialogue for Sarah, then disappeared. It was later uploaded again and had the music fade to let Sarah's dialogue be heard and was then posted simultaneously on Revver, LG15, and YouTube under Taylor's account by Sarah.