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User talk:Renegade/Portal:KateModern

2008-05-15T21:50:23Z

71.172.47.108: /* Color */

I was wondering how long it'd be before the KM redesign went up. As with the LG one, LOVE IT! I don't think it could have been done better. --Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 18:59, 16 April 2008 (CDT)
:I'm shooting for around the same time (actually, a few days later) than the LG15 one goes active. (Ren wanted it to sit untouched for a while after the LG15 portal AND the main page had been redesigned. NO WAY JOSE!) I'd say probably at least a month before either goes out, though. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:50, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

== Color ==

I don't really like how Charlie's picture is so sharp and angular, I think it should follow the "swoop" thing you have going and round off the corner a bit. Sort of like it's following the film strip? -[[User:Krisser|Krisser]]

I like the new design but I don't know about the purple color. I think red would be better looking for KateModern then the purple. - [[User:Bianca23|Bianca23]] 17:25, 17 April 2008 (CET)
:Yeah, I know. I had actually originally done the design in red as I just plain liked the color, but there are ''major'' reasons why it's purple now:
:*Red was ''never'' an official color of KM, unlike blue is for LG15. It was arbitrarily chosen before the series commenced. (Seriously. The arbitrary color for a potential - and now apparently upcoming - third series was a puke yellow.) Purple ''is'' their official theme color, at least for now.
:*Colors were difficult for ''everything''. The lighter colors, as you see being used for the vid templates and content boxes were resulting in a puke-worthy pink color. Darker colors were tried and resulted in link colorization problems. You can see the history of the pages, if you want to see how bad it was...
:The nice the about the purple color - especially ''this'' purple color - is that it goes well with the red color already in use so we could leave everything alone otherwise, if we wanted to. (I was actually thinking of recoloring the headers, blog template, and video lists, and leaving everything else as-is.)
:I am open to suggestions on it, though. If anyone can come up with a banging version of this in red (the images are saved in the history of the current images), and actually overcome the pink/link color problems, I'm all ears. Ren was being less than helpful on it, though. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:35, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
I really like the purple colour[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]

The red was chosen because of Kate's original Bebo profile, which used the red heavily, thus making it an "official color." And there are ways to work around link color problems if you have admin access :). You could test some stuff out and let me know what you needed. But yeah, I personally would prefer to stick with the red. (and um, no idea why people are so convinced there is a third series coming up soon... seriously.. way to make presumptions people :P) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:30, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
::According to LG15Today, there is going to be a third series, though not in the Breeniverse (''Wonders if it will have a portal on the LGPedia''). As for the issue. If a normal red doesn't work, maybe a magenta-based color scheme would work better? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] Obscenely Late O'Clock, 18 April 2008 (EST)
:::I was getting the third series stuff from the EQAL site's main page. Three boxes, two filled with lonelygirl and KM, the other with question marks. I reverted the header back to the original color and left the boxes purple. Am I crazy, or does it not look all that bad? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:30, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
::::The series mentioned on LG15 Today is a series created by FORMER EQAL employees, [[Gavin Rowe]] and [[Pete Gibbons]], and seems to have nothing to do with EQAL, especially considering the comment [[Greg Goodfried]] made on the newteevee article. As far as the third box... I might point out that [[LG15.com]] has long had four boxes on the front page... but ah well, I suppose only time will tell :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:43, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

::LG15's colorscheme changed, and we're in the process of adapting the LG15 portal. On what logical grounds to you want to stick to an obsolete colorscheme? Red was a pure chance decision. As far as I remember, red was not as prominent in Kate's bebo design when I last saw it - it was just around the header. I have always admitted I randomly chose red for KM. To ignore the fact that the official KateModern web presence prominently uses purple, and instead using a chance decision I made because the Creators ''failed'' to give me the information I asked for during the portal design period (namely, any information regarding colorschemes or coporate design) is just stupid.
::Red was a random decision during the design process - we needed a base color quickly, and red happened to be Kate's background.
::Purple is the main color of the official web presence of KateModern.
::Even if you insist on red having been official, it's obviously ''not anymore''. Designs change. Colorschemes change. As an official and often-cited part of the official site canon, we should try to stay in sync with the official pages, instead of randomly deciding we're taking a totally different direction.
::Purple is ''obviously'' the "official color" of KateModern right now. To divert from that is just silly.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:50, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
:::Running of of Ren's comment, I thought I'd point out that the color associated with KM on EQAL is purple... (Like I said, the nice thing about this color purple is it meshes with red well, if need be.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:00, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Wow, Ren. I'm going to ''pretend'' that comment was meant civilly, and reply as such.
::::First of all, red was not chosen by you, it was chosen by me as it was the ''main'' color in the ''main'' character, [[Kate]]'s entire Bebo profile and featured heavily throughout the KM presence on Bebo. Yes, they have since changed the layout, but they often change their layouts, as is customary with "skins" on Bebo. The whole idea behind using a solid color was that we would not have to constantly redesign our pages to keep up with their layouts. After all, why create more work for ourselves?
::::If we want to update the color scheme to purple, I do see logic for that, especially because, as Shi pointed out, it is the color associated with it on eqal.com. However, I want to point out that one of the nicest things about how we did the KM pages is the way we kept things totally uniform as far as color goes. I don't want to change half of the KM things to purple and leave the other half red... it will only confuse people. If someone wants to volunteer for updating ''every'' instance, be it simple text color, or intricate design, that uses the red into a purple scheme, then they should feel free to say so here. But without that sort of commitment, it doesn't seem the least bit worth it to half-ass the color update to keep things "current" when "current" changes so darn often. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:43, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::I was not talking about bebo skins (which is still red, btw, so it can't have changed that much), I was talking about the official KM main site under lg15.com. Which is very much purple.
:::::Also, for lg15 we didn't choose Bree's color, we chose the official color used on the main site. Plus, afaik, Kate is either dead or at least not the main character anymore, so even ''if'' you based it on the main character, Kate's color would be irrelevant by now.
:::::No matter how you twist and turn it, red is wrong.
:::::In addition, most of the red is template-based anyway. So as much as you may try to create panic ("omg do YOU want to go through every page???"), it's mostly changing a few templates and running the bot over a few categories. Nothing dramatic.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:37, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::Again with the posting that I can only ''assume'' was meant civilly...
::::::Anyway, all I was saying is that we were justified in choosing red at the time, not that we need to stick to it today. Stating that the choice was "arbitrary" is inaccurate.
::::::As far as updating the colors, yes most of it is just templates, but there are pages, like the [[List of KateModern videos]] for instance, which would, of course, need an entire overhaul. Somebody just has to be willing to sign up for the job and make sure the change is made consistently in every place necessary. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:45, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::::I was planning on rehauling the video list anyway, since the font it currently uses annoys me, so that's no big deal. I'll volunteer to take care of every other color instance, too, though I'd like to eventually redo ''all'' of the headers to be rid of the flowery designs in the background. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:19, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
::Random comment: Ren and I redid the header colors to a better-looking purple. I think it looks better than the LG15 design now. :P - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:17, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
Definately for me it should be red. Also red is more gender neutral.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 18:49, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:Off comment, but what does gender-neutrality have to do with anything? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:00, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::Well girls and guys watch these videos, and there are always new fans. I don't want some guy possible turned off because it's purple. Red and Blue always seem to be for both guys and girls and so is the series. That's just my opinion though. Another thing that Renegade said about Kate not being the main character anymore neither is Bree and we still use blue.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:14, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Yes, but blue is still the official color of lonelygirl15 (according to the EQAL site, we're a shade lighter on the Pedia than we should be, but it's still blue.) Going off of EQAL yet again, the KM color is purple. The individual series layouts go along with the colors on the EQAL site. So it's not like we're picking purple out of thin air. (Not to mention this layout has FAR less purple-overload than the KM site...) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:36, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::Ok you've made me choose your side with the purple. Then when do these go up.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:07, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::::There are a few pending discussions about the overall layout of the design of it on the [[User talk:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15|LG15 redesign page]] that need to be resolved first. It might take a while... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 05:40, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::I like purple it rules!! -Anonymous PurpleFreak

:::::: I agree with the purple color now, guess I needed to adjust to it. But I like the design, so bring it on friday. --[[User:Bianca23|Bianca23]] 20:20, 13 May 2008 (CET)

== Launch ==

[{{fullurl:Portal:KateModern|diff=126172}} This Friday] sounds good to me, especially since the [[Portal:Lonelygirl15|LG15 Portal]] is up and seems to be working out. Plus, this will make them consistent. I suppose all of this will have to get reevaluated in a month and a half anyway, but for now we have the redesign and I can't think of a reason not to go forward with it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:26, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
::I agree, it looks the same as the LG portal except for the color. They both look great. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:38, 13 May 2008 (CDT)

User talk:Renegade/Portal:KateModern

2008-05-15T17:34:47Z

71.172.47.108: /* Color */

I was wondering how long it'd be before the KM redesign went up. As with the LG one, LOVE IT! I don't think it could have been done better. --Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 18:59, 16 April 2008 (CDT)
:I'm shooting for around the same time (actually, a few days later) than the LG15 one goes active. (Ren wanted it to sit untouched for a while after the LG15 portal AND the main page had been redesigned. NO WAY JOSE!) I'd say probably at least a month before either goes out, though. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:50, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

== Color ==

I don't really like how Charlie's picture is so sharp and angular, I think it should follow the "swoop" thing you have going and round off the corners a bit. Sort of like it's following the film strip? -[[User:Krisser|Krisser]]

I like the new design but I don't know about the purple color. I think red would be better looking for KateModern then the purple. - [[User:Bianca23|Bianca23]] 17:25, 17 April 2008 (CET)
:Yeah, I know. I had actually originally done the design in red as I just plain liked the color, but there are ''major'' reasons why it's purple now:
:*Red was ''never'' an official color of KM, unlike blue is for LG15. It was arbitrarily chosen before the series commenced. (Seriously. The arbitrary color for a potential - and now apparently upcoming - third series was a puke yellow.) Purple ''is'' their official theme color, at least for now.
:*Colors were difficult for ''everything''. The lighter colors, as you see being used for the vid templates and content boxes were resulting in a puke-worthy pink color. Darker colors were tried and resulted in link colorization problems. You can see the history of the pages, if you want to see how bad it was...
:The nice the about the purple color - especially ''this'' purple color - is that it goes well with the red color already in use so we could leave everything alone otherwise, if we wanted to. (I was actually thinking of recoloring the headers, blog template, and video lists, and leaving everything else as-is.)
:I am open to suggestions on it, though. If anyone can come up with a banging version of this in red (the images are saved in the history of the current images), and actually overcome the pink/link color problems, I'm all ears. Ren was being less than helpful on it, though. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:35, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
I really like the purple colour[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]

The red was chosen because of Kate's original Bebo profile, which used the red heavily, thus making it an "official color." And there are ways to work around link color problems if you have admin access :). You could test some stuff out and let me know what you needed. But yeah, I personally would prefer to stick with the red. (and um, no idea why people are so convinced there is a third series coming up soon... seriously.. way to make presumptions people :P) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:30, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
::According to LG15Today, there is going to be a third series, though not in the Breeniverse (''Wonders if it will have a portal on the LGPedia''). As for the issue. If a normal red doesn't work, maybe a magenta-based color scheme would work better? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] Obscenely Late O'Clock, 18 April 2008 (EST)
:::I was getting the third series stuff from the EQAL site's main page. Three boxes, two filled with lonelygirl and KM, the other with question marks. I reverted the header back to the original color and left the boxes purple. Am I crazy, or does it not look all that bad? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:30, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
::::The series mentioned on LG15 Today is a series created by FORMER EQAL employees, [[Gavin Rowe]] and [[Pete Gibbons]], and seems to have nothing to do with EQAL, especially considering the comment [[Greg Goodfried]] made on the newteevee article. As far as the third box... I might point out that [[LG15.com]] has long had four boxes on the front page... but ah well, I suppose only time will tell :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:43, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

::LG15's colorscheme changed, and we're in the process of adapting the LG15 portal. On what logical grounds to you want to stick to an obsolete colorscheme? Red was a pure chance decision. As far as I remember, red was not as prominent in Kate's bebo design when I last saw it - it was just around the header. I have always admitted I randomly chose red for KM. To ignore the fact that the official KateModern web presence prominently uses purple, and instead using a chance decision I made because the Creators ''failed'' to give me the information I asked for during the portal design period (namely, any information regarding colorschemes or coporate design) is just stupid.
::Red was a random decision during the design process - we needed a base color quickly, and red happened to be Kate's background.
::Purple is the main color of the official web presence of KateModern.
::Even if you insist on red having been official, it's obviously ''not anymore''. Designs change. Colorschemes change. As an official and often-cited part of the official site canon, we should try to stay in sync with the official pages, instead of randomly deciding we're taking a totally different direction.
::Purple is ''obviously'' the "official color" of KateModern right now. To divert from that is just silly.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:50, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
:::Running of of Ren's comment, I thought I'd point out that the color associated with KM on EQAL is purple... (Like I said, the nice thing about this color purple is it meshes with red well, if need be.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:00, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Wow, Ren. I'm going to ''pretend'' that comment was meant civilly, and reply as such.
::::First of all, red was not chosen by you, it was chosen by me as it was the ''main'' color in the ''main'' character, [[Kate]]'s entire Bebo profile and featured heavily throughout the KM presence on Bebo. Yes, they have since changed the layout, but they often change their layouts, as is customary with "skins" on Bebo. The whole idea behind using a solid color was that we would not have to constantly redesign our pages to keep up with their layouts. After all, why create more work for ourselves?
::::If we want to update the color scheme to purple, I do see logic for that, especially because, as Shi pointed out, it is the color associated with it on eqal.com. However, I want to point out that one of the nicest things about how we did the KM pages is the way we kept things totally uniform as far as color goes. I don't want to change half of the KM things to purple and leave the other half red... it will only confuse people. If someone wants to volunteer for updating ''every'' instance, be it simple text color, or intricate design, that uses the red into a purple scheme, then they should feel free to say so here. But without that sort of commitment, it doesn't seem the least bit worth it to half-ass the color update to keep things "current" when "current" changes so darn often. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:43, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::I was not talking about bebo skins (which is still red, btw, so it can't have changed that much), I was talking about the official KM main site under lg15.com. Which is very much purple.
:::::Also, for lg15 we didn't choose Bree's color, we chose the official color used on the main site. Plus, afaik, Kate is either dead or at least not the main character anymore, so even ''if'' you based it on the main character, Kate's color would be irrelevant by now.
:::::No matter how you twist and turn it, red is wrong.
:::::In addition, most of the red is template-based anyway. So as much as you may try to create panic ("omg do YOU want to go through every page???"), it's mostly changing a few templates and running the bot over a few categories. Nothing dramatic.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:37, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::Again with the posting that I can only ''assume'' was meant civilly...
::::::Anyway, all I was saying is that we were justified in choosing red at the time, not that we need to stick to it today. Stating that the choice was "arbitrary" is inaccurate.
::::::As far as updating the colors, yes most of it is just templates, but there are pages, like the [[List of KateModern videos]] for instance, which would, of course, need an entire overhaul. Somebody just has to be willing to sign up for the job and make sure the change is made consistently in every place necessary. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:45, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::::I was planning on rehauling the video list anyway, since the font it currently uses annoys me, so that's no big deal. I'll volunteer to take care of every other color instance, too, though I'd like to eventually redo ''all'' of the headers to be rid of the flowery designs in the background. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:19, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
::Random comment: Ren and I redid the header colors to a better-looking purple. I think it looks better than the LG15 design now. :P - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:17, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
Definately for me it should be red. Also red is more gender neutral.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 18:49, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:Off comment, but what does gender-neutrality have to do with anything? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:00, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::Well girls and guys watch these videos, and there are always new fans. I don't want some guy possible turned off because it's purple. Red and Blue always seem to be for both guys and girls and so is the series. That's just my opinion though. Another thing that Renegade said about Kate not being the main character anymore neither is Bree and we still use blue.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:14, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Yes, but blue is still the official color of lonelygirl15 (according to the EQAL site, we're a shade lighter on the Pedia than we should be, but it's still blue.) Going off of EQAL yet again, the KM color is purple. The individual series layouts go along with the colors on the EQAL site. So it's not like we're picking purple out of thin air. (Not to mention this layout has FAR less purple-overload than the KM site...) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:36, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::Ok you've made me choose your side with the purple. Then when do these go up.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:07, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::::There are a few pending discussions about the overall layout of the design of it on the [[User talk:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15|LG15 redesign page]] that need to be resolved first. It might take a while... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 05:40, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::I like purple it rules!! -Anonymous PurpleFreak

:::::: I agree with the purple color now, guess I needed to adjust to it. But I like the design, so bring it on friday. --[[User:Bianca23|Bianca23]] 20:20, 13 May 2008 (CET)

== Launch ==

[{{fullurl:Portal:KateModern|diff=126172}} This Friday] sounds good to me, especially since the [[Portal:Lonelygirl15|LG15 Portal]] is up and seems to be working out. Plus, this will make them consistent. I suppose all of this will have to get reevaluated in a month and a half anyway, but for now we have the redesign and I can't think of a reason not to go forward with it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:26, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
::I agree, it looks the same as the LG portal except for the color. They both look great. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:38, 13 May 2008 (CDT)

User talk:Renegade/Portal:KateModern

2008-05-15T17:34:18Z

71.172.47.108: /* Color */

I was wondering how long it'd be before the KM redesign went up. As with the LG one, LOVE IT! I don't think it could have been done better. --Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 18:59, 16 April 2008 (CDT)
:I'm shooting for around the same time (actually, a few days later) than the LG15 one goes active. (Ren wanted it to sit untouched for a while after the LG15 portal AND the main page had been redesigned. NO WAY JOSE!) I'd say probably at least a month before either goes out, though. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:50, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

== Color ==

I don't really like how Charlie's picture is so sharp and anguarl, I think it should follow the "swoop" thing you have going and round off the corners a bit. Sort of like it's following the film strip? -[[User:Krisser|Krisser]]

I like the new design but I don't know about the purple color. I think red would be better looking for KateModern then the purple. - [[User:Bianca23|Bianca23]] 17:25, 17 April 2008 (CET)
:Yeah, I know. I had actually originally done the design in red as I just plain liked the color, but there are ''major'' reasons why it's purple now:
:*Red was ''never'' an official color of KM, unlike blue is for LG15. It was arbitrarily chosen before the series commenced. (Seriously. The arbitrary color for a potential - and now apparently upcoming - third series was a puke yellow.) Purple ''is'' their official theme color, at least for now.
:*Colors were difficult for ''everything''. The lighter colors, as you see being used for the vid templates and content boxes were resulting in a puke-worthy pink color. Darker colors were tried and resulted in link colorization problems. You can see the history of the pages, if you want to see how bad it was...
:The nice the about the purple color - especially ''this'' purple color - is that it goes well with the red color already in use so we could leave everything alone otherwise, if we wanted to. (I was actually thinking of recoloring the headers, blog template, and video lists, and leaving everything else as-is.)
:I am open to suggestions on it, though. If anyone can come up with a banging version of this in red (the images are saved in the history of the current images), and actually overcome the pink/link color problems, I'm all ears. Ren was being less than helpful on it, though. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:35, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
I really like the purple colour[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]

The red was chosen because of Kate's original Bebo profile, which used the red heavily, thus making it an "official color." And there are ways to work around link color problems if you have admin access :). You could test some stuff out and let me know what you needed. But yeah, I personally would prefer to stick with the red. (and um, no idea why people are so convinced there is a third series coming up soon... seriously.. way to make presumptions people :P) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:30, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
::According to LG15Today, there is going to be a third series, though not in the Breeniverse (''Wonders if it will have a portal on the LGPedia''). As for the issue. If a normal red doesn't work, maybe a magenta-based color scheme would work better? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] Obscenely Late O'Clock, 18 April 2008 (EST)
:::I was getting the third series stuff from the EQAL site's main page. Three boxes, two filled with lonelygirl and KM, the other with question marks. I reverted the header back to the original color and left the boxes purple. Am I crazy, or does it not look all that bad? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:30, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
::::The series mentioned on LG15 Today is a series created by FORMER EQAL employees, [[Gavin Rowe]] and [[Pete Gibbons]], and seems to have nothing to do with EQAL, especially considering the comment [[Greg Goodfried]] made on the newteevee article. As far as the third box... I might point out that [[LG15.com]] has long had four boxes on the front page... but ah well, I suppose only time will tell :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:43, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

::LG15's colorscheme changed, and we're in the process of adapting the LG15 portal. On what logical grounds to you want to stick to an obsolete colorscheme? Red was a pure chance decision. As far as I remember, red was not as prominent in Kate's bebo design when I last saw it - it was just around the header. I have always admitted I randomly chose red for KM. To ignore the fact that the official KateModern web presence prominently uses purple, and instead using a chance decision I made because the Creators ''failed'' to give me the information I asked for during the portal design period (namely, any information regarding colorschemes or coporate design) is just stupid.
::Red was a random decision during the design process - we needed a base color quickly, and red happened to be Kate's background.
::Purple is the main color of the official web presence of KateModern.
::Even if you insist on red having been official, it's obviously ''not anymore''. Designs change. Colorschemes change. As an official and often-cited part of the official site canon, we should try to stay in sync with the official pages, instead of randomly deciding we're taking a totally different direction.
::Purple is ''obviously'' the "official color" of KateModern right now. To divert from that is just silly.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:50, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
:::Running of of Ren's comment, I thought I'd point out that the color associated with KM on EQAL is purple... (Like I said, the nice thing about this color purple is it meshes with red well, if need be.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:00, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Wow, Ren. I'm going to ''pretend'' that comment was meant civilly, and reply as such.
::::First of all, red was not chosen by you, it was chosen by me as it was the ''main'' color in the ''main'' character, [[Kate]]'s entire Bebo profile and featured heavily throughout the KM presence on Bebo. Yes, they have since changed the layout, but they often change their layouts, as is customary with "skins" on Bebo. The whole idea behind using a solid color was that we would not have to constantly redesign our pages to keep up with their layouts. After all, why create more work for ourselves?
::::If we want to update the color scheme to purple, I do see logic for that, especially because, as Shi pointed out, it is the color associated with it on eqal.com. However, I want to point out that one of the nicest things about how we did the KM pages is the way we kept things totally uniform as far as color goes. I don't want to change half of the KM things to purple and leave the other half red... it will only confuse people. If someone wants to volunteer for updating ''every'' instance, be it simple text color, or intricate design, that uses the red into a purple scheme, then they should feel free to say so here. But without that sort of commitment, it doesn't seem the least bit worth it to half-ass the color update to keep things "current" when "current" changes so darn often. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:43, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::I was not talking about bebo skins (which is still red, btw, so it can't have changed that much), I was talking about the official KM main site under lg15.com. Which is very much purple.
:::::Also, for lg15 we didn't choose Bree's color, we chose the official color used on the main site. Plus, afaik, Kate is either dead or at least not the main character anymore, so even ''if'' you based it on the main character, Kate's color would be irrelevant by now.
:::::No matter how you twist and turn it, red is wrong.
:::::In addition, most of the red is template-based anyway. So as much as you may try to create panic ("omg do YOU want to go through every page???"), it's mostly changing a few templates and running the bot over a few categories. Nothing dramatic.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:37, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::Again with the posting that I can only ''assume'' was meant civilly...
::::::Anyway, all I was saying is that we were justified in choosing red at the time, not that we need to stick to it today. Stating that the choice was "arbitrary" is inaccurate.
::::::As far as updating the colors, yes most of it is just templates, but there are pages, like the [[List of KateModern videos]] for instance, which would, of course, need an entire overhaul. Somebody just has to be willing to sign up for the job and make sure the change is made consistently in every place necessary. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:45, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::::I was planning on rehauling the video list anyway, since the font it currently uses annoys me, so that's no big deal. I'll volunteer to take care of every other color instance, too, though I'd like to eventually redo ''all'' of the headers to be rid of the flowery designs in the background. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:19, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
::Random comment: Ren and I redid the header colors to a better-looking purple. I think it looks better than the LG15 design now. :P - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:17, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
Definately for me it should be red. Also red is more gender neutral.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 18:49, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:Off comment, but what does gender-neutrality have to do with anything? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:00, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::Well girls and guys watch these videos, and there are always new fans. I don't want some guy possible turned off because it's purple. Red and Blue always seem to be for both guys and girls and so is the series. That's just my opinion though. Another thing that Renegade said about Kate not being the main character anymore neither is Bree and we still use blue.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:14, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Yes, but blue is still the official color of lonelygirl15 (according to the EQAL site, we're a shade lighter on the Pedia than we should be, but it's still blue.) Going off of EQAL yet again, the KM color is purple. The individual series layouts go along with the colors on the EQAL site. So it's not like we're picking purple out of thin air. (Not to mention this layout has FAR less purple-overload than the KM site...) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:36, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::Ok you've made me choose your side with the purple. Then when do these go up.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:07, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::::There are a few pending discussions about the overall layout of the design of it on the [[User talk:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15|LG15 redesign page]] that need to be resolved first. It might take a while... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 05:40, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::I like purple it rules!! -Anonymous PurpleFreak

:::::: I agree with the purple color now, guess I needed to adjust to it. But I like the design, so bring it on friday. --[[User:Bianca23|Bianca23]] 20:20, 13 May 2008 (CET)

== Launch ==

[{{fullurl:Portal:KateModern|diff=126172}} This Friday] sounds good to me, especially since the [[Portal:Lonelygirl15|LG15 Portal]] is up and seems to be working out. Plus, this will make them consistent. I suppose all of this will have to get reevaluated in a month and a half anyway, but for now we have the redesign and I can't think of a reason not to go forward with it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:26, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
::I agree, it looks the same as the LG portal except for the color. They both look great. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:38, 13 May 2008 (CDT)

Corn Nuts

2008-05-07T19:40:42Z

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==Transcript==
'''Daniel:''' If you think I'm proud of myself... about [[Alone in the Woods|leaving Steve behind]]... I'm not. Don't think we feel good about it, because we don't. Jonas and I know that leaving a guy in the middle of nowhere isn't cool, but... I mean, come on. Ever since [[Steve]] called us, it's been nothing but bad news. Even if we took him to a bus station or something, I mean, he could have figured out what was happening and we didn't want to give him the chance to turn the tables. If that was his plan.

You know, I've read through a lot of your messages. Jackie, caalan21, Stripped Smile, JustAnotherLonelyGirl... And I know that a lot of you think what we did was wrong, but... I mean, until you- until you've been shot at; until you've had to run for your life; until you've watched your [[Bree|best friend]] die, it's gonna be hard for you to understand where we're coming from at times.

who knows if we're right? I don't. I'm just saying sometimes it's hard being in our shoes. You know? (''Laughs''.) Anyway, how about something fun for a change? It seems Sarah made her triumphant return. (''Laughs''.) You should really see this video she was making when we got home. She left the tape in the camera, and, uh... that's bad news for Carl.

(''Cut to a shot of the window in kitchen. A blender can be heard in the background. The camera zooms out and pans over a table covered in a sarape, with drinks and chips on it. It pans to the blender and Sarah, who is operating it wearing a sombrero''.)

'''Sarah:''' We may be back, but we're maintaining the cabo bar. Right, Carlos?

'''Carl:''' (''Reaching out for Sarah's arm''.) Hey, mama, qué es tú making?

'''Sarah:''' Oh, this? (''The camera pans to the blender''.) It's a little drink con tequila they know about down in Cabo... Okay, it's [[Inebriated|a margarita]].

(''Sarah pours the blender's contents into a margarita glass. Carl zooms in''.)

'''Carl:''' Ooo, margarita! Bueno!

'''Sarah:''' Sí. (''Takes a sip of the margarita''.) Mmm! (''Sets everything down on the counter''.) You totally need my sombrero. (''Takes off her sombrero and puts in on Carl's head''.) It's gonna look so hot on you! Show everybody!

'''Carl:''' No! No, don't!

(''Sarah grabs the camera from Carl and turns it around, revealing Carl in boxers and the sombrero''.)

'''Sarah:''' Yes. Oh, you're so sexy! (''Carl pretends to be a cabañero for the camera''.) Come to mamí! (''Sarah pans over Carl''.) Oh!

(''Cut to Carl struggling with Sarah''.)

'''Carl:''' Give it back to me!

'''Sarah:''' No!

'''Carl:''' Give it back to me!

'''Sarah:''' You can't have it. (''Laughs''.)

'''Carl:''' Give it back to me! Give it back to me!

(''Carl gets the camera off of Sarah''.)

'''Daniel:''' Woo... (''Carl turns the camera to the door, showing Daniel, Jonas, Jennie, and Gina entering''.) Woohoo! What's up there, corn nuts?

'''Jonas:''' (''Whistles''.) That is kinky, Carl, kinky. But I think it's (''Laughs''.) time to put the junk away.

'''Jennie:''' (''Laughs''.) Now we know what Sarah sees in him.

(''Gina laughs, holding a hand up to block the view''.)

'''Gina:''' Seriously.

'''Jonas:''' Oh, god... Okay, Carl, could you put some pants on, please?

'''Daniel:''' Dude, I need to erase this from my memory.

'''Sarah:''' What are you guys doing here?

'''Daniel:''' Uhm... We live here. What are you two doing here?

'''Carl:''' My timeshare expired, so...

'''Daniel:''' I'm just saying... That? So hot!

'''Sarah:''' So Carlos and I decided to bring home a little bit of Mexico. (''Walks into the kitchen, winking at Carl''.)

'''Carl:''' Anybody want a margarita? As a peace offering...

(''Gina, Jennie, and Jonas sit around the kitchen table, laughing. Jennie raises her hand''.)

'''Jennie:''' I do.

'''Jonas:''' (''Laughs''.) No, I think I'm gonna stick with the beer. Thanks.

'''Daniel:''' Well, I'm happy that you two are off partying while the rest of us were [[Crazy Border Crossing!!|getting shot at]].

'''Sarah:''' Fine! You don't get any.

'''Carl:''' Whoah, hey... The real reason we came back is she was worried about you guys, alright?

'''Daniel:''' (''Turns to Sarah''.) Is that true? (''Walks to Sarah in the kitchen''.) Look, I'm sorry. I just can't believe you were off in Cabo with King of the Dorks. No offense, Carl.

'''Carl:''' Oh, none taken. Too much to tequila.

(''Sarah laughs and Daniel looks incredulously at him''.)

'''Daniel:''' Listen, if you were so worried about us, why didn't you return any of my calls?

'''Sarah:''' I needed time to think.

'''Daniel:''' What do you think?

'''Carl:''' Whoah. Easy with my lady!

'''Daniel:''' Whoah. She's not your lady, Carlos! (''Turns to Sarah''.) So you've had time to think. And?

'''Sarah:''' It's good to be home. How about I make you a margarita? I can make it a virgin...

'''Daniel:''' (''Laughs and leans in to Sarah''.) I doubt that.

'''Sarah:''' Offensive! (''The doorbell rings''.) Very offensive!

(''Daniel shakes his head and walks away. Cut to Sarah opening the door to find Ben on the other side''.)

'''Sarah:''' Can I help you?

'''Ben:''' Oh, hey. Nice, uh... camera. Um, I'm going door to door handing out literature on this exciting new candidate running for Congress. [[Edward Salinas]]. (''The camera pans down to show the back of Ben's clipboard covered in Salinas stickers''.)

'''Sarah:''' Uh huh.

'''Ben:''' Have you heard of him?

'''Sarah:''' Guys?

(''Sarah pans back to everyone standing behind her, looking surprised. Cut to Daniel in his room''.)

'''Daniel:''' So Sarah and Carlos, The Naked Sombrero, they're back. And, as you can see, Salinas isn't going anywhere any time soon. But what worries me the most is this: are we any safer here than when we were out on the road? I don't know. There's just so much we don't know. Salinas, [[Lord Carruthers (character)|Lord Carruthers]], [[Elizabeth Avery]]... Are they connected? We go down one path only to wind up on another.

You know, connecting the dots won't be that easy this time. But that's why we're back. We're ready to fight.

==Notes==
*Both [[Carl]] and [[Sarah]] have [[cap]] fever.