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== Talk Archive for Main Page ==
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_up_to_November_2006 | Archive up to November 2006]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Nov-Dec 2006 | Archive from November up to December 2006]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Dec-Jan 2007 | Archive from December up to January 2006]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign/archive of dicussion | Archive of redesign discussion]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign | Archive of final redesign discussion]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Jan-Feb2007]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive of character box discussion]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive_March-Mid_May]]

===How about with colors? ===
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:DeepPink; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:MidnightBlue; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:DarkOrange; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
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|}

:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::: I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

::::: Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

== Breeniverse Timeline ==

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

==Sarah and Taylor==
Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Sarahimageforfc.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 3]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 4]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 5]]'''
|-
|}

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 3]]'''
|-
|}
--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|}
::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==

I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' Picture ==

[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds." :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

 
It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 1'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 2'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 3'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 4'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 5'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}
<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
 

Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] July 11]]{{Clr}}
I'm going to just throw another headshot out there and see if anyone likes it better than the current one. It obviously would still need to be properly cropped and sized.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] July 11
: I love this! I was actually thinking "he looks so nice" as I was watching this video today. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 15:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
:: =D Me too.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] 16:06, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
::: Haha, this is the main reason I came to the discussion page tonight. I am all for this (of course, if it's possible). [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:59, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

== Adding Spencer, changing sizes. ==

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|Spencer]]'''
|-
|}

::: i like that. 5 across was looking a little long to me, actually --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 07:54, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things. *nods* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
: Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::Okay awesome :) Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on [[User:Zoey/sandbox]] to make them fit in the boxes properly. It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good. But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :) Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:: O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>raises hand* I volunteer to crop *runs to PhotoPlus* MEEP Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:::And heeeerrrreee we go!
:::[[Image:LG15PortalImageCropped.jpg]]
:::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageCropped.jpg]]
:::I'll go ahead and put them in your sandbox now, Zoey. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

The LG one looks good, but does the KM one look slightly fuzzy to anyone else? Is that fixable? Gah, I hope we get the "new" cast photos Miles promised soon, I don't like how these two are so vastly different in sizes with the people (the Kate cast is so BIG compared to the LG cast! Haha). Other than that though, I think it's good. Anyone else have any thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:With the KM one, it was already fuzzy. That is the sharpened version, but I'll sharpen it a bit more. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::OK, hows this:
::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageSharpened.jpg]]
::It's increased a little bit. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:32, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::(Ooops, wrong size (and I airbrushed a little bit.) Here:
::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageAirbrushed.jpg]]
::Hows that?) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::: Those look nice. Only thing I recommend (if possible) is sharpening around Gavin's head and Kate's head. Otherwise it's a vast improvement. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Ok, I went a little airbrush crazy on this one, but deal with it. The shadows were bugging me.
::::[[Image:KateModernPortalImagePhotoshopped.jpg]]
::::Soooo...? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 01:46, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
::::On second thought, I don't like it. What is everyone else's opinion? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 01:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

== Adding on to the navigation ==

Whoever has access to edit the navigation bar on the side will soon need to add the KM and LG portals on. This will be more convenient for editors and users to navigate between the shows. Just bringing this to attention. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 22:01, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

:: I think that the Portal links should be at the top. So it would go Portal, Videos, Forums, List of Videos. I think it makes more sense considering we're at the 'pedia, so the Portal should be first. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:51, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::: Yeah, I agree with Chelsey. I'd fix it but I gave up my sysop rights! :*( Anybody who has sysop access can change the sidebar here: [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]].--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:40, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Done! (I was wondering about that too . . .) :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

== This is Probably Just Stupid But... ==

...The main page, i like it but for some reason i don't think it looks wiki like. It is cool but needs to look more like a wiki. But my opinion is just an opinion.
----
:Well, in my opinion, you're wrong :P
:Seriously, though, pick any other skin, [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58212&useskin=cologneblue and the old main page looks different as well]. Just because wikipedia has a certain design doesn't make that the ultimate "wiki" design. There are dozens of skins for the MediaWiki software alone, and dozens of other wiki softwares as well. Look at [[MemoryAlpha:Main Page]] - they're using the same software both Wikipedia and LGPedia use - yet they look totally different.
:We acknowledge your wish to have the main page look more like a generic wikipedia clone, but I, personally, do not support it :P
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:14, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

== Why is there something on the main page nere the bottom for... ==

lonelygirl15, it has the creators, and the "universe". if there was that shouldn't katemodern have one or should the lonelygirl15 one be taken off--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:22, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:The 'Universe' encompases both the stories of Kate & Bree, Houdini. They simply call it the '''LG15 Universe''', becuase, well, LG15 came first. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:39, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

== New Featured Article ==

should there be a new featured article?--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 02:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

I believe so, It has been up there for a while.

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 20:19, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

== Lonelygirl15 Portal image ==

Eventually do you think that the portal image for lonelygirl should be changed to reflect the fact that bree is no longer?

Im not saying anyone has to, im just throwing an idea out in the air.

== beta.lonelygirl15.com ==

So I see that www.lg15.com/lgpedia has been moved to beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. If anyone could fix any broken links on {{wikipedia|lonelygirl15|Wikipedia}}, that'd be great! I'll get to work on it, but I see some of the links are still at lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia, which as we know, is broken. Bye guys! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 20:18, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
:I'm sorry, but I don't even see what youre talking about? LGPedia links show up for me at lg15.com/lgpedia --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:38, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
::For a short while, Zoey, the LGPedia was relocated beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. It seems that it has been moved back to lg15.com/lgpedia, though.

== Missions and Relationships ==

Should i move missions and relationships to the main page.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:43, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
:I'd say that it's a good idea to move Missions and Relationships to the Main Page. :) Go for it, Houdini! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 01:55, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

::Well I'm not sure about Missions, but I think Relationships should be seperate for each series, as the page is already long enough as it is. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:03, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:Hmmm, Missions could work for the Main page, as it currently has both series in that article. I do agree with Zoey however, that Relationships would be fine with their respective Portal. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:18, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

== How about? ==

How about each month we change it to a charector theme? But I dont think thats a very good idea.

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]] 
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waist my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:26 PM}}
::You couldn't copy my response too, Randy?? :P (Anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. -- 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)) [[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:23, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Caaaan do! (oh and anyone who has better photo-shopping skills than a 13 year old, feel free to jump in. I built that logo from scratch and thats why it doesn't look like the actual logo.) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Aug 12, '07 - 8:23 PM}}

== One Year of LGPedia ==

Did anyone mention before that the LGPedia recently had its one year anniversary? Kudos to all who have contributed, especially our dear admins.

The first edit of the main page came on Sept. 29, 2006, and it read:
"Woo hoo! LG15 rocks! Cassieiswatching."
Sept 29, 2006: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1405

Sept 29 later that day, the 1st real main page, by TheNunOwnedGoat: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1437

Oct 1, already full of links!: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2127

Nov 9: warning about yousef firing on main page: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=5935

Jan 4, 2007: Nicer new header debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=16791

Jan 24: LGPedia reaches 1 million views. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=19692

March 28: LGPedia reaches 2 millions views. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=31776

May 29: LGPedia reaches 3 million page views: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=49143

June 16: It is noted that LGPedia has exceeded 1,000 articles. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=52726

July 15: New main page, split between LG15 and KM, debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58492

--[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:00, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

:That's awesome, Milowent. Brings back good times. Man, I remember that [[Firing of Yousef]] fiasco and then the [[Glenn Rubenstein]] thing which we were afraid was going to blow up just as big. Somehow the effects really didn't get seen here as much as the forums I don't think. But I just want to say thanks as well to everyone who has contributed. Even though I'm not helping out here as much, I'm always checking out the video pages and reading the notes to catch up on all the stuff that's happening in the LG15 world. Looking forward to another great year!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 14:32, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

:I remember first visiting the site around this time last year (wasn't even registered then). Man, times have changed, have they? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 05:18, 8 December 2007 (CST)

== Featured Content ==

Since the "Featured Article" hasn't really been working out for some time, I decided to go a new approach. To me, it makes way more sense to have "Featured Content" that rotates fairly regularly. Instead of having to perfect an article and wait while people debate over it and blahblah, with featured content, you should still nominate it, but it won't have to be perfect. It will be much less intense... it can be a new feature we've added to the Pedia, breaking plot news, an article that's just undergone a major revision, even a funny tidbit burried in one of our pages. Hopefully, by featuring "content" instead of just an "article" we'll be able to keep people much better informed of all the great things the wiki has to offer.

Let me know what you think! (PS Sorry this sounds like a sales pitch, I'm just so excited lol. And now... as it's 5:30 am (which actually means I may have forgotten something I meant to say here... sorry if I did...), I am off to bed :)) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 04:35, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I concur. Make it more like Wikipedia. Although, we should probably create a template to nominate a page to feature, like they have there, as well. (And of course a similar page to discuss nominations.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:59, 29 November 2007 (CST)
::I love this idea! '''Strong support.'''
:::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 17:22, 6 December 2007 (CST)
:There appears to be no dissenters (no one's responded in a week). If we do decide to go along with this new approach, what should we feature first?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 16 December 2007 (CST)
::Hm, we could feature [[Jan Libby]] now, since I just revamped it a fair bit and she was shouted out in [[Free Love|Sarah's latest videos]]? Trying to think what else... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 15:43, 17 December 2007 (CST)

== New portal images? ==

I was just wondering, since KM season 1 has ended, and LG season 2 is coming to a close. should there be a new Portal image? --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
:Maybe, but the problem then becomes ''what'' images would we use? Those two are the best we've got right now. I do think we might want to put the actual logos on them, but that's another matter. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:11, 25 January 2008 (CST)
:I just saw the two new Portal images! I love them! Thank you ,Zoey - Irene([[User:AzukiLotus|AzukiLotus]]) 20:27,14 February 2008 (HKT)
:Should Kate be in the KateModern portal image? Just a thought...[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]

== The Last Work ==

Can someone change the announcement from prom to the last work [the finale of KateModern.]--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:36, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

== The End==

Since this show has ended as well, are we going to do it up like we did with KM after the finale?
i was also wondering whats going to happen to the main portal images, are those going to the side panel when the new shows premiere?

== the resistance/The Resistance ==

Do we have any official word on the capitalization of the new series? I know it seems trivial, but I notice things like this. The ''trailer'' was posted unitalicized, but the new board on the forum was capitalized. Just wondering if we know for sure yet. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:28, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
:The group Amanda created on Facebook is lowercase, but aside from that, I haven't seen anything official either way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
::Ah, okay. Thanks, Zoey! --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:46, 3 August 2008 (CDT)

==The Resistance portal image?==

i was wondering if anyone would like me to make several portal-maybes that we could use as the "click here" image for the main page like all the other shows have.

-[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 23:27, 13 September 2008 (CDT)

How about this? Something i put together. [http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/Xer0_/?action=view&current=LG15_Resistance_Portal_Spla.jpg LG15 Resistance Splash] --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 10:25, 15 September 2008 (CDT)

==Thin?==
I was wondering what is up with the new Pedia... the background looks great, but on the whole, it looks very... thin in my browser. It seems like it used to fill more space, but now seems to have a lot of dead air out to the sides. Just wondering... --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 14:30, 16 September 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Girl, Returned

2008-03-26T03:36:52Z

Greenie:

Do we mean literally the "shortest kidnapping ever"? Or just the shortest kidnapping in the series? I'm not sure there is much proof that this is truly the shortest ever, but it is the shortest in the series. Should this perhaps be clarified? --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 06:27, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
:I agree. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 07:03, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
::I'm still not completely convinced it was a kidnapping, if you want to get down to it. :P - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:51, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
:I just find it funny that there's so many kidnappings in the series that this is even noteworthy. :) ----[[User:TimiN|TimiN]] 10:16, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
::Agreed, TimiN. I just think that if we're going to say shortest, I could come up with sooo many shorter kidnappings. Shiori, who knows if it's kidnapping? Anywho, thanks to whoever clarified it! --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:36, 25 March 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Girl, Returned

2008-03-25T11:27:15Z

Greenie:

Talk:It's The Doing That Matters

2008-03-22T15:50:52Z

Greenie:

My favourite video thus far. Like a bit of a PSA... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:57, 17 March 2008 (CDT)

== jessica rose video ==

*does anybody remember the video jessica rose did (not as bree) about poverty or hunger? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
:It actually was as Bree, but not as an official part of the lonelygirl15 series. Anyways, the video is [[Stand Up Lonelygirl15]]. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:12, 18 March 2008 (CDT)
:*is this a fair comparison? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
::Well, no one's saying the videos are comparable on every level, just in the aspect that they both bring up humanitarian concerns. I think that's a fair assessment.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:16, 18 March 2008 (CDT)

== Jennie's Universe ==

I kinda think that Gina situation is much like Bree's in the sense that it disrupts. Now, I'm not saying that they're a nuisance. I'm just saying that in order to help them, you gotta be dedicated. Daniel, Sarah, and Jonas had to drop everything to help save Bree. Er, or attempt to. Although Gina's case isn't as urgent and seems kinda stupid, it's kinda the same thing. In order to help Gina, you gotta set aside everything that ''was'' important to you and focus on Gina. Maybe Jennie's complaining because her thing makes people feel guilty. I mean, setting aside world poverty to help someone find their sister's mom... I'd feel guilty too. But it's all about dedication.

-sigh- Sometimes, I hate Gina. I hate her for a few reasons sometimes. Like, stealing Sarah's man (even though Sarah's looking at Creepy Carl), being Bree's replacement (lots of people thought Emma was Bree's replacement. But, I think Gina fits that more appropriately), and just other random small things. But. It's ''Bree's'' sister. You can't hate Bree's sister. Bree'll strike me down. o.o;
-[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 23:49, 18 March 2008 (CDT)

== Wir Sind Helden? ==

Does anyone notice that, yes, while having similarities to the Bob Dylan video, it also has similarities to the Wir Sind Helden Video, "Nur ein Wort"? Seems like a fair assesment, considering the signs and the black and white. Just my opinion, though. --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 10:50, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

Talk:It's The Doing That Matters

2008-03-18T03:57:23Z

Greenie: New page: My favourite video thus far. Like a bit of a PSA... ~~~~

My favourite video thus far. Like a bit of a PSA... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:57, 17 March 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Prey

2008-03-06T00:20:32Z

Greenie: New page: Anyone have any knowledge of the area? It would be nice to know what store she was at. --~~~~

Anyone have any knowledge of the area? It would be nice to know what store she was at. --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 18:20, 5 March 2008 (CST)

Out of Control

2008-03-05T19:56:02Z

Greenie: added an I in "Helping" under picture.

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==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' I can't sleep. (''nods'') I can't sleep. It's just, I got--I got... I got too much going on in my--in my mind right now, you know? What I mean, I me- (''sighs''). We got away from that [[Shadow]]; we did. But it was just way too close, you know? Way too close.

I got into a huge fight with [[Daniel]]. You know, 'cause he went off on [[Gina]] for risking our lives and then... I went off on him, 'cause, you know, we just (''shakes his head'') we can't control Gina. We can't do it. I tried to do that with [[Emma]]. (''mumbles'') Look how good that worked out. You know, uh--So, so now Gina's completely shut down and Daniel's all messed up because of all this talk about [[Bree]], Bree... and [[Jennie]] and...

The thing is is that I--I don't know where we're headed here. I- I don't know where we're headed.

What is friendship? What is that? You know, 'cause, I guess, to be a friend you have to care. You know, but, I think, to be a ''real'' friend, you gotta care deeply. You know, you gotta care deeply; otherwise it's--it's just, it's not worth anything. You know, it's meaningless without that. You know, to--to know that somebody cares about you and your life, and how you're really, really doing. You know, not just the superficial thing but how you're really doing. (''shakes his finger at the camera'') That's all anybody wants. You know, that's it: to know that somebody truly cares about you and... and that you're not alone, and... Because being alone and feeling like that nobody cares or nobody--nobody wants you around, that's a tough way to go.

Look, man, we're still friends, we are. We're still friends. I just don't know if right now, we can stick together. It's just maybe--I don't know, maybe it's because, it's because it's--it's so late, and everything is just more serious now, and I... it's just I--I'm just tired. You know, man, I'm just tired. I'm just tired of the circle that we seem to be on. I'm tired of the fighting. I just want it to be simple.

I just wanted to be honest with you, that's all and... that's it.

== Notes ==

Talk:She's Ready

2008-03-05T19:55:08Z

Greenie:

Did you all hear what one girl said in the chat?

"why dont you all just get your own shadow and go find Bree's mom.

ROFL!!! WOW! thats the most retarded thing I've ever heard!-xwestsidex

Hey, I was wondering, I know we have the audio for the chat, but is there any way we can transcript the audio and put it on the pedia? Maybe not on this page, but like, have a link there from this page? Just wondering. If I knew how to make a page and do it, I'd transcribe it this week sometime, but I was wondering if anyone else was better equipped to do it, or if it was even an option. --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 13:55, 5 March 2008 (CST)

Talk:Hangover Hell

2008-02-28T14:04:04Z

Greenie:

== Russian Accent??? ==

Is it really a Russian accent? I think its more of an attempt at a French accent. --[[User:TimiN|TimiN]] 11:56, 26 February 2008 (CST)
: No idea really. Which accent typically calls alchohol "evil spirits"? :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 12:02, 26 February 2008 (CST)

:: It really seemed like a mix of both French and Russian, but was honestly more Russian. The way he pronounced some of the letters sounded VERY Russian. I have very close friends from both France and Russia, and know the accents well. --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:14, 27 February 2008 (CST)
:::I agree. The reason I said he was trying to mimic a French accent (albeit poorly, and ultimately coming out as a vampire) is that he was trying to be "Chef Daniel". How many famous Russian chefs are there vs. French. Honestly, I'm tempted to put the accent thing in the notes. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:23, 27 February 2008 (CST)
:::: I don't see why you don't. I mean, yes, logically it would be a French accent. But just listening to him, it sounds Russian. I think it should be noted that his intent was probably one accent, but landed on another... --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 08:04, 28 February 2008 (CST)

Talk:Hangover Hell

2008-02-28T04:14:50Z

Greenie:

Talk:I Lost It

2008-02-22T04:32:17Z

Greenie:

Am I the only person who thinks it's strange that Jonas says she's "14-15 years old"? I mean... don't you think his sister's age MIGHT have come up in conversation? [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 11:45, 21 February 2008 (CST)

he might've meant she LOOKED 14-15.

Oh, I'm sure he could have meant that.... but why would you SAY that? Wouldn't you just say, "She looks 15" or something? Or even "She looks ABOUT 15?" just my opinion... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:32, 21 February 2008 (CST)

Talk:I Lost It

2008-02-21T17:45:00Z

Greenie: New page: Am I the only person who thinks it's strange that Jonas says she's "14-15 years old"? I mean... don't you think his sister's age MIGHT have come up in conversation? ~~~~

Talk:Up All Night

2008-02-17T17:03:14Z

Greenie:

According to the DSM, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can be exhibited in things such as hypervigilance, exaggerated startle response, sleep disorder, irritability, and other symptoms. Also, should it be noted that it's commonly referred to as a disorder rather than a syndrome? [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 11:03, 17 February 2008 (CST)

Talk:Drunk By Bedtime

2007-11-21T16:31:05Z

Greenie:

I think it is pretty clear that the pictures are of Yousef. First, the styling is more in line with someone of Yousef's age then of Daniel's (short shorts were big for kids in the 80s, not so much in the 90s). Second, it looks exactly like him! Third, it is normal for one's hair to be lighter as a child. There is actually evidence from the field of anthropology that this is why men are disproportionately attracted to blonde females and not vice versa. If anything, I think it is worthwhile to point out that it looks like those pictures were taken before Daniel's time (except in a more eloquent way). There is no way that those are the baby pictures of a 19 or 20 year old. --[[User:129.64.175.25|129.64.175.25]] 00:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)
:Either way, they're really cute! But I agree. I don't think there needs to be a note for it, though. I don't think it's that important to note. --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 10:31, 21 November 2007 (CST)

Talk:Groping in the Dark

2007-11-15T04:09:55Z

Greenie:

== triangulate their location ==
*i realize that fans are thinking this. it's probably going to happen but i just want to make note about it before it happens, that it is absolutely absurd. - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] nov 13

*that's correct, but it may be possible to track them using their ip address as these usually pick up the rough location from where one is posting.--[[User:129.64.99.48|129.64.99.48]] 09:52, 14 November 2007 (CST)

That would be good, except for the fact that its only pretend and their not actually there, probably.

==international countries==
*From the notes: "It is assumed that Jonas and Sarah are in either Canada or Mexico, as they are the only possible international countries that can be reached by truck from California."

I'm gonna edit it, but i saved it here for a good-natured chuckle. all "countries" are international, i suppose. also, technically, one can drive from the United States into South America, all the way down to Argentina and Chile. Though it would take quite some time. See: http://www.well.com/user/dreyer/ ("My brother and I drove a Toyota 4Runner from San Francisco, California to Tierra del Fuego and back, between March 9 and July 15, 1996.") --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:13, 14 November 2007 (CST)

*I think for sure someone could drive all the way through Mexico in four days; especially from Southern California. -murdock_cb

** i think you are right murdock. once you got thru the border, it wouldn't be that difficult to make it to Central America. I hold out hope that they took a secret Chunnel from Boston to England. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:50, 14 November 2007 (CST)
***At least then, we could maybe find out about this ambiguous future KM/LG overlap thingie... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:09, 14 November 2007 (CST)

Talk:Rescued?!

2007-11-15T04:06:04Z

Greenie:

If Sarah and Jonas get together I am not going to be a happy camper :[ {{unsigned|72.130.9.188}}

why not? They'd make a good couple, and it'd make Daniel jealous >.> {{unsigned|Surfthetsu }}

::It'll be awful if Sarah and Jonas get together! I will be so mad! I don't want her with either boys. I wish they'd kill her off, honestly. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:40, 14 November 2007 (CST)

I think Sarah and Jonas would make a good couple. They have a very up and down friendship and I think they are interesting to watch. [[User:Lillygirl15|Lillygirl15]] 20:03, 14 November 2007 (CST)

I'd prefer Sarah and Daniel, honestly. But I'm okay with Sarah/Jonas... J needs to heal after losing Bree... but as long as he's doin as well as he has been.... then I'm game with it. [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:06, 14 November 2007 (CST)

User talk:Greenie

2007-11-14T04:14:52Z

Greenie:

{{Userbox EvilJulia}} I made this for you! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 20:54, 12 November 2007 (CST)

AH! Nancypants, I LOVE YOU! :) You're AMAZING! :) [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 20:57, 13 November 2007 (CST)

== Yay! ==

I'm so glad you like it! I was hoping you would! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:35, 13 November 2007 (CST)
: I do like it! In fact, I love it!!! YAY!!!!

User talk:Nancypants

2007-11-14T02:59:33Z

Greenie:

== [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Ceremony page]] ==

From what I can tell, it looks good. But ask anyone around here, writing articles isn't really my thing, so my opinion really isn't worth much. The great thing about wikis is they can always be changed, so if there's anything that can be improved about the article, someone will probably come along and do it. If you have a specific question or want an opinion about an article, try posting something on that article's talk page. For the Ceremony page, that would be [[Talk:The Ceremony (ritual)]]. Hope this helps!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:18, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

I'll give it a look as soon as I can! Much lag on my computer + tons of stuff to do isn't helping, but I'll let you know what I think! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:38, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

:No, it's great and much appreciated! That entire list of pages on the "recent changes" page needs work, so any and all you want to contribute on are muchos appreciated :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:44, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

== Your favorite?! ==

Whaaaat?? Now you made me all blush... :-> Though it is a nice birthday present!! ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 22:13, 15 October 2007 (CDT)

== RE: Redirect? ==

heres what you do.
go to your IP User Page
(User:##.###.##.###)
and put this line in it:
<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[User:Nancypants]]</nowiki>
It's that easy :]
your welcome!
{{User:-R-/SignatureD|Oct. 20, '07 - 1:09 PM}}

==Page Updates==
So you have been doing a great job with a ton of the page updates, but I wanted to point out some additional notes I had on the Daniel page that I thought were necessary before the page was "ready to go". I posted them on [[Talk:Daniel#Updates|Daniel's talk page]], if you're interested. I just figured you might be, since you were the one who had done most of the work on the page. No pressure to make these changes though.. just.. they need to be done before the page is "done" I think! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:20, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
:Haha, are you kidding me? I'm so greatful that someone else is helping out! And you do an awesome job!

:My best wishes to your kitty and his/her(?) speedy recovery! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 19:02, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

Question: I saw you made some changes on Daniel's page.. should I check it out? Or is it still in progress? I wanted to double check. :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:14, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

I read over it and made some grammatical changes.. someone might want to triple check me though. The main thing I think it's missing is what happened in Vegas, Mexico, and the bunker. Other than that, I think it's good to go! Do you mind adding stuff about that chunk of time though? The Vegas/Mexico/bunker chunk? :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:05, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

Go for it! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:12, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

== Help? ==

Okay, I feel bad asking this, but I'm soo swamped right now. The newest video was released, and a lot of pages need updates. I listed the ones I thought on [[Talk:Connections]]... I was wondering if maybe you wouldn't mind helping out? There's also some additional pages that need help on that box in the Recent changes page. Thanks SO much. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:46, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

== Newbie ==

Hi there,
Thanks for the encouraging words. I love doing freeze frame shots from the show (I've got hundreds saved to my desktop in their own special folder (haha nerd I know). Not very familar with the editing aspects, more of a forum goer. I added the original transcript for the last emma video, then decided to register with my sn from the forum. I'm alittle confused how to add those boxes along with editing my page, is it html or do I use the buttons at the top most likely... haha, thanks for your help! RoseCrowley

== Re: Link ==

Hmmm, yes he has. Apparently he feels like he has to insult everyone who says something about him he doesn't like. But I'd hate for his "wrath" to be taken off me if it means someone else has to take it. But I think we're all mature enough to handle it. Too bad the same can't be said of him. On a lighter note, I just wanted to say thanks for all the work you've put into LGPedia. I glanced through your contributions page (no, it's not really stalking--well, I hope not....), and it seems like you've helped out quite a bit. I see your name in [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] a fair amount too. So... thanks! One more thing: I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but you can sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and it will automatically timestamp them.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:53, 8 November 2007 (CST)

== Lonelygirl15/Sarah pic ==

I replied on [[User talk:Zoey|my talk page]] to your two questions! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:12, 10 November 2007 (CST)

== Week 14 recap ==

Awwww...it was soooo funny how the recap got dissed on the portal. Did you really have to add it? xD
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:55, 12 November 2007 (CST)

:<nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki> I was kidding, dear. Of course what you did was right, and you've done it well. I just found it incredibly funny that we all apparently hated that recap so much that we just skipped it everywhere like it didn't exist.
:Don't worry. What you did was perfect. I'm just poking a little fun at the crappiness of the Creators' fillers ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:09, 12 November 2007 (CST)

== re: sorry ==

Quit being sorry all the time, will ya :P 
If I was really mad at you, you'd notice. ;) I was just a little confused about your edit, nothing more. There is no reason to formally apologize every time someone questions an edit of yours. Just relax. ;)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:41, 13 November 2007 (CST)

== Nancypants equals my favourite person ==

Thank you very very very much for the Julia userbox! It's amazing! And on my userpage! :) [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 20:59, 13 November 2007 (CST)

User:Greenie

2007-11-14T02:58:07Z

Greenie:

Greenie is a junior in college at a private school in Kansas. She used to be involved in chat, using the names "GreenLaceBeauty" and "GreenieLovesYou"; in addition, she used to be a part of the first official LG15 couple.
She is 18 years old, loves Yousef, as well as Jackson Davis, and wishes Tachyon would come back. She really really misses Spencer, but can do without Taylor.

Greenie has a knew Emma was using code, but was way off on what the code was. She was also wrong about Emma's location.
This User is glad Emma's alive, but said "WTF?!" when Jonas's dad said Jonas wouldn't bother her again. He SAVED her life!

This user really hopes that this isn't the last we see of Emma. I really like her.

This user likes the fact that Tariq has moved on, but isn't a fan of Julia (the new girlfriend, not Jules).
{{Userbox EvilJulia}} This user loves Nancypants for her new Userbox!

This user about died when we found out the specialist's son was really, truly dead, and weren't left with some plot hole. This user also thought the "aaaah" *thud* sounded really fake.

This user thinks the extended videos are way too scripted, but was exicted to get the free copy of the album.

Greenie L'Cares about Bree, but couldn't get the userbox to work.

{{Userbox Daniel}} {{Userbox Jonas}}
{{Userbox Charlie}} {{Userbox Owen}}
{{Userbox Owensad}} {{Userbox Puppy}}
{{Userbox Watcher}} {{Userbox Pizza|Cheese}}
{{Userbox WANKER}} {{Userbox BackTach}}
{{Userbox Grillz}} {{Userbox Lonelybeast}}
{{Userbox Neanderthal}} {{Userbox ReallyReally}}
{{Userbox 14Hours}} {{Userbox MotelDining}}
{{Userbox PMonkeySing}} {{Userbox Foosball}}
{{Userbox Kiss}} {{Userbox Aerobics}}
{{Userbox Growup}} {{Userbox Spin}}
{{Userbox Sombrero}} {{Userbox Make Out}}
{{Userbox ArtPiece}} {{Userbox Ponies}}
{{Userbox Socks}} {{Userbox Spencer Camera}}
{{Userbox Normal}} {{Userbox Spencer Chef}}
{{Userbox Keep Your Socks On}} {{Userbox CrushDB}}
{{Userbox CrushJTKO}} {{Userbox CrushTachyon}}
{{Userbox CrushSarah}} {{Userbox CrushSpencer}}
{{Userbox FanDate|[[Purple Monkey (video)|the second episode]]}}
{{Userbox Lonelycrack}} {{Userbox Science}}
{{Userbox Terrorslurpee}} {{Userbox GoBree}}
{{Userbox SpencerEat}} {{Userbox UBObsession}}
{{Userbox L'Care}}

User talk:Greenie

2007-11-14T02:57:27Z

Greenie:

Talk:Lonelygirl15 Week 14 Recap

2007-11-13T00:17:51Z

Greenie:

This Video is All the videos from last week PUT together (5 or so videos unaltered beyond the fact that they are stringed together.) The Ones for KateModern have not been included on the official list. Should This? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:00, 12 November 2007 (EST)
:Was my edit summary not clear enough?
::''(I'm adding the recap to the list so we don't get confused with the numbering, given that we added the other two as well - but I'm not gonna create a page for it. (worthless filler crap))''
:We have included both the [[Lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap|season 1 recap]] as well as the [[Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far |mid-season 2 recap]] in the official list; this video was also posted on main site, from the official account. It is out of canon, but, as much as we despise it, it ''is'' an official video.
:Omitting it would majorly fuck up the counting, and put the inclusion of the previous recaps in question, which, if we removed them, would result in a re-numbering of almost a hundred episodes.
:''Consistency'' is the important word here. They're official videos, and we've included the previous ones. We can't just stop now.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:48, 12 November 2007 (CST)
:P.S.: In your opinion, what is more official than a video credited to Blogger: The Creators? ;)

== Sorry ==

I made the page, I put it on the portal. Geez, I'm sorry. I thought that whole "worthless filler crap" thing translated to "I don't feel like doing it" not "no one else should do it either." Once again, I'm sorry for making it..Heck I'm sorry I had to watch it in the first place. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 18:03, 12 November 2007 (CST)
:lol XD I was kidding :P
:If it was incorrect to create a page for it, do you think I'd have created a redlink for it? ;)
:Of course it was correct to create a page, and if you read my comment above in its entirety, you'll see that I advocated exactly what you did - to treat it as usual, even though we all hate it.
:Read everything, not just the four-letter-words ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:07, 12 November 2007 (CST)

== Why??? ==
Why are they making these recap vids like the KM ones? I totally loved the other LG recaps, but I'm going to be massive ticked if they start making these like the KM recaps. I don't like those, in fact, don't watch them. If all they're going to do is put the videos in, almost whole, then I'm not bothering to watch them... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 18:17, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Talk:The Ladies Room

2007-11-09T00:01:01Z

Greenie:

Is someone planning on making/linking a page for The Lullaby Project? --[[User:129.64.99.48|129.64.99.48]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (CST)

does anybody else notice how sarah often screws up the mission and then tries to play it off like she did everybody a favor? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] nov 6
:I do, platy, Sarah's the worst. [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]
:its tough to distinguish between whats is opinion and what is fact. i mean. sarah did screw off in the offices and i am rather curious what happened to jonas who was left in that lady's office while sarah is running away from security. i am largely disappointed by this episode because they should have involved jonas more. show us that he got out. oh and the jonas and sarah pretending to be married? it was beyond ridiculous. jonas and sarah can't act worth crap. i mean, jackson and alex are fine. its just jonas and sarah should not pretend to be married. they can't do it. arg. anyhow. nevermind me. this was the worst episode in a long time... as if the film school episodes wern't bad enough... but we'll get over it. - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] nov 6
::Well it's a fact that my opinion is Sarah's the worst thing that happened to this show..does that count?? :D lol, I'm half kidding. [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]

== credit withheld? ==

egads. "credit withheld" for receptionist 2? the lgpedia with an admitted informaton hole?! Is this a true [[Firing_of_Yousef#Allen_Smithee|Allen Smithee]] situation? --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:20, 7 November 2007 (CST)

== Note on Page ==
Permission to either remove or ask for a rewording of the note on the page? It's beyond ridiculous. I might support it had it been written with enough grammar to make it understandable... --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 18:01, 8 November 2007 (CST)

School's In

2007-11-02T15:12:43Z

Greenie:

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==Transcript==
'''Daniel:''' Oops.

'''Mallory:''' Understatement.

'''Daniel:''' I'm an idiot.

'''Mallory:''' A dope.

'''Daniel:''' A moron.

'''Mallory:''' A dork.

'''Daniel:''' A loser.

'''Mallory:''' A fool. A geek. A nerd. A...

'''Daniel:''' 'Nuff?

'''Mallory:''' Okay, tell them why, honey.

'''Daniel:''' Mallory decided to take [[Professor DelMundo]] to coffee.

'''Mallory:''' You mean, the stuck-up Professor DelMundo? The one with the crappy film and the stupid class?

'''Daniel:''' Uh-huh. And she ''somehow'' got him to let me back in.

'''Mallory:''' Now, how do we feel about this?

'''Daniel:''' I would say... like this! (''Begins kissing her arm.'')

'''Mallory:''' Oh. Oh. (''Giggles. Daniel begins kissing her face and she starts laughing harder.'')

'''Daniel:''' Just like that.

'''Mallory:''' Yeah.

'''Daniel:''' Let's hope he never sees the video, though.

'''Mallory:''' Yeah, let's.

'''Daniel:''' Let's.

'''Mallory:''' Because I'm sick and tired of buying him Cafe De Leches, and you can't afford to take me out to any more nice restaurants for nice dinners.

'''Daniel:''' Who said anything about nice restaurants or nice dinners?

(''Daniel looks at Mallory and the two begin kissing again.'')

==Notes==
* This video was officially posted exactly two hours after the prior video, [[School's Out]]. However, for a short time on YouTube, this video was available out of sequence before School's Out, and was then made private.

* Mallory says the wrong phrase Cafe de Leche which translates to Coffee of Milk. The actual Phrase is Cafe con Leche meaning Coffee with Milk.

Talk:Sarah and the City

2007-11-02T15:12:08Z

Greenie:

can anyone REALLY see the camera guy in the vase?

to Me it looks like its just a bedpost of a sort...

:I thought that I saw it. But it could be a bedpost. I don't know. It's not really clear enough to figure out. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 10:12, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Cat Hunt

2007-10-30T21:44:25Z

Greenie:

== all talk ==
*i'm sick of jonas saying "now im going to fight. im not going to run. i'm going to fight." because... he's said it a lot. does anybody want to review all the videos in which he says this? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] oct 29
**I don't have the time to go through all the jonas videos to find out. But it happens A LOT. I think that it's ridiculous. But from a psychological standpoint, after everything he's gone through, this is actually a typical reaction. --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 16:44, 30 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Portal:KateModern

2007-10-30T21:39:27Z

Greenie:

==Sophie's Video==
Is it going to be linked? It seems pretty relevant to the plot....
Here's the link: http://bebo.com/watch/4585283644

==Links to videos==
Hmm, something should be done about that extremely long link to bebo.com.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Nevermind, it was fixed. ^^--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Picture links for videos ==

is there a way to make it so that the pictures have links themselves to the video that they are represtenting without redirecting them for every page there on - [[ User:Houdini]]

== OMG!!!!!!!! ==

Did anybody see the video Charlies party?
Im just shocked.
:Seriously, the [[Hymn of One|Hymnie]]'s GOT to be [[Steve]]. I agree with Charlie - he's a creep! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 12:39, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

== Swearing and Nail Polish==

Has there been any talk about linking all the swears in the videos? Just that, lg15 has it, so why not KateModern? On another note, Kate wore nail polish in the latest video, is there a general rule not to link to pages about the lg15 version of things? Because I linked to the nail polish page for Bree, so...

== Recap? ==

Why is it the recap video not on the pedia? We do the recap videos for lg, but not for KM??? [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 21:47, 29 October 2007 (CDT)
:You know, it's a fair question, and definitely something I've been thinking about. But for me, what it comes down to is whether or not the videos are listed on the "official" video list. Right now, on the KateModern Bebo page [http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MID=367137231&MemberId=4337221200] the recap videos aren't listed, but on the Lonelygirl15 website [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15], they are. And unless we hear official word otherwise, I think we just need to go with what is included in the official lists. But the videos are good, so I'm going to list them on [[Sophie]]'s page. Yeah... I think that's how we should do it. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:14, 30 October 2007 (CDT)
::Also you have to consider this: The Recap Videos for KateModern have been All the videos from that week PUT together (5 or so videos unaltered beyond the fact that they are stringed together.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:58, 30 October 2007 (EST)
:::I understand that. I just wasn't sure why they weren't on there. I'm not a fan of the KM recap videos, to be honest. They come out too frequently and they're too long... LG recaps show a large portion of the videos in a concise amount of time, that doesn't involve showing over half the video over again... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 16:39, 30 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Portal:KateModern

2007-10-30T02:47:33Z

Greenie:

Talk:Genevieve (video)

2007-10-29T17:25:41Z

Greenie:

I think that "aaaaaaah" *thud* was quite possibly the fakest sounding thing I've ever heard. But hey, it served it's purpose. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 12:25, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Is This The End?

2007-10-29T17:13:12Z

Greenie:

Is it notable that, aside from the Finale, this is the first video to implicitly state that it is part of a "continuation"? I mean, this is the first time the Creators have said, "Come back for tomorrow for the conclusion." I think it's notable enough for the notes, but I'm not editing it in until someone says it's notable enough. [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 13:06, 26 October 2007 (CDT)

The music was not added as part of editing. Jonas makes a comment to Daniel asking him about the music he has playing. Yes, it's possible that the noises was added in post-production, but as far as the story goes there was nothing that was (clearly) edited in. Does anyone want to change that in the notes section? --[[User:129.64.175.25|129.64.175.25]] 14:08, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

: I agree. I'm going to strike it and hope no one gets mad at me. If they do, they can feel free to put it back, but at this point, I didn't recognize that it was clearly edited in. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 19:41, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

* regarding the note about the chair in the door. please do not call things ironic when they are not ironic. also, i believe the chair in the door trick works in all cases, given that the chair has enough grip on the floor and doesn't slip. but i don't know. i don't have a way to test it because i don't currently own a proper chair. - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] oct 29
**Agreed. Learn to spot irony before you go around labeling everything ironic. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 12:13, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

Who thinks the beginning of this video seemed REALLY scripted? It made me almost want to cry. I was wondering where the good, seemingly real, characters went. This seemed so FAKE! Ugh... -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 12:13, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:What Happened?

2007-10-29T17:10:48Z

Greenie:

i am fairly sure the watcher was Joe Rubin and not greg, aka Virgil. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:45, 26 October 2007 (CDT)

Yeah I wasn't too sure on that. I knew someone woulda fixed it if I was wrong. Thanks Milo. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:41, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

----
Anyone else find that these two episodes felt forced? Almost no buildup, and a quick ending. Seems like they feel the need to toss in action just for the hell of it... and even if the action is needed (and appreciated), there are better ways of doing it than having a gunfight every two dozen episodes! :p [[User:24.179.192.143|24.179.192.143]] 00:08, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

They probably wanted all the action to lure the myspace crowd. All the fights don't do much for me though. --[[User:EmiB|EmiB]]--[[User:139.84.121.186|139.84.121.186]] 13:24, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

:the myspace crowd seems like a lost scene to me. the myspace video player itself is kinda sketchy, the comment system within in sub par... and of course the people there are 90% pond slime. they leave half witted criticisms. forget about myspace! - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] oct 27

: I thought the episodes were WAY too forced. They seemed super-scripted which was lame times fifty. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 19:39, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

----

Unclear that Claire is dead? She is on the floor with her eyes open and you can see she got a headshot!!

: Honestly, I'm pretty sure that a headshot could still have her eyes open. I'm not sure why she wouldn't have her eyes open, considering she was ready to shoot. Had her eyes been closed at the time of the shot, I can see where you might think that, though. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with shooting. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 19:39, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

: At the time I was writing, the article said that it was unclear whether Claire was dead or merely injured. I think that the fact her eyes are open and her face isn't moving makes pretty clear she's really dead, not just unconscious. Besides, who really survives being shot in the forehead.
::I didn't know that the article said that at the time. Yeah, it's pretty sure that she's dead. I mean... you can't really survive a headshot like that. I mean, you can survive headshots... but that one? No way. So who are you? You neve sign your posts with the 4 ~s. -[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 22:42, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

* i don't know about everyone else, but i'm rather disappointed by how inane the gun fights are. jonas or daniel should have shot the elder before the elder shot claire. it seems as though virgil apears just so that jonas and daniel don't actually have to kill anybody. this way, TAAG stays innocent. what is the use of bringing the guns if they are never going to use them? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] oct 28
**I thought the same. I think they should have shot Claire long before Virgil appeared. Honestly, I feel like there was so much that could have been done. It's clear the kids aren't going to be able to fight the Order forever unless they learn to actually fight. In two instances this season(if I'm remembering correctly), Jonas has waved that Gun at someone important and someone from the ORDER stepped in and shot the person. He's great at waving the gun around, but not so great at using it... I understand not going and shooting up everyone (I mean, had he used the gun on Alex, where would we be?) but he needs to grow a pair... his sister almost died because he didn't have the nerve to shoot Claire on his own!!! [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 12:10, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

User:Greenie

2007-10-29T03:46:06Z

Greenie:

Greenie is a junior in college at a private school in Kansas. She used to be involved in chat, using the names "GreenLaceBeauty" and "GreenieLovesYou"; in addition, she used to be a part of the first official LG15 couple.
She is 18 years old, loves Yousef, as well as Jackson Davis, and wishes Tachyon would come back. She really really misses Spencer, but can do without Taylor.

Greenie has a knew Emma was using code, but was way off on what the code was. She was also wrong about Emma's location.
This User is glad Emma's alive, but said "WTF?!" when Jonas's dad said Jonas wouldn't bother her again. He SAVED her life!

This user really hopes that this isn't the last we see of Emma. I really like her.

This user likes the fact that Tariq has moved on, but isn't a fan of Julia (the new girlfriend, not Jules). This user secretly hopes that Julia is evil.

This user about died when we found out the specialist's son was really, truly dead, and weren't left with some plot hole. This user also thought the "aaaah" *thud* sounded really fake.

This user thinks the extended videos are way too scripted, but was exicted to get the free copy of the album.

Greenie L'Cares about Bree, but couldn't get the userbox to work.

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Talk:What Happened?

2007-10-29T03:42:04Z

Greenie:

Is This The End?

2007-10-28T00:42:13Z

Greenie: I deleted the last note about the music editing. It didn't seem like it was edited. If you don't like that I did this, put it back in...

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| description = Thanks qthec for solving that code in Emma's video. Unfortunately, things didn't go as planned . . . time is running out.
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==Transcript==
(''In Daniel's room, Jonas and Daniel are using the laptop.'')

'''Jonas:''' Daniel, we don't have time for this. [http://whatweird.com Whatweird.com]?

'''Daniel:''' Naw, man. Just check it out for a second. It's cool.

'''Jonas:''' (''scoffs'') Yeah, I think someone's messing with you.

'''Daniel:''' Dude, it's real. I've read all these people's accounts on here.

'''Jonas:''' Well, you know what? Unless it's helping us find Emma, I'm not interested. (''slaps Daniel's back'')

'''Daniel:''' Maybe it could?

'''Jonas:''' Yup.

'''Daniel:''' Right?

'''Jonas:''' Time travel?

'''Daniel:''' No, teleportation- It's not even the same thing! It's like, it's like one person going from one place to another without being seen. (''Jonas looks incredulous'') I thought it was BS too but I'm telling you, man, I've read these stories. It's real.

'''Jonas:''' Okay, well, good luck with that. I'm going to go work on the code in the other room. (''steps out of room'')

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Jonas. Who is this band?

'''Jonas:''' (''returns'') Oh, that's uh, that's [http://www.myspace.com/somethingforrockets Something for Rockets]. That's the new song.

'''Daniel:''' It's good. I like it. (''Jonas leaves once more and Daniel returns his attention to the laptop.'') Jonas! They cracked [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=14648&st=0&sk=t&sd=a the code].

'''Jonas:''' What?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, man. I'm on the [[forum]] right now. Th-they, they cracked it.

'''Jonas:''' D- Scroll down, scroll down!

'''Daniel:''' Hang on! Look... [[Pleasant Manor]]. Yeah. What the hell is Pleasant Manor?

'''Jonas:''' Pleasant Manor...

'''Daniel:''' Pphht.

'''Jonas:''' I think I know what that is.

'''Daniel:''' (''short noises like he's trying to say something'')

'''Jonas:''' Dude, I think I know what that is. (''runs out of the room'')

'''Daniel:''' You're crazy if-- Hey, hold on! Ta--! (''pauses at the door and returns for camera. Scene cuts to Mallory walking into the scene.'') Hey, Mal. Do you know if I brought the, uh, computer? If I packed the computer with the backpack?

'''Mallory:''' I dunno. I mean I-I-

'''Daniel:''' I can't remember.

'''Mallory:''' Daniel, do you really have to go?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, I got to go.

'''Mallory:''' No, I just think that maybe this is something they can do on their own. You can just stay here with me.

'''Daniel:''' No, I- (''struggles for words'') I promise you it will be the last time. Everything will be okay. Okay? (''They kiss'') Don't worry.

'''Mallory:''' Just... be careful.

'''Sarah:''' (''off screen'') Hey! Sorry I'm interrupting. But, um, (''on screen'') is that the last tape?

'''Jonas:''' (''at front door'') That is the last tape, actually. So if you could just (''indicates "cut" with his hands slashing across his neck''). We need to save it. 'Cause it's all we got.

'''Sarah:''' Seriously, we need to--we need to go too. We're kind of on a time limit here.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, really. Sorry to interrupt, but we really got to go.

'''Sarah:''' I am sorry.

'''Jonas:''' Go, go, go, go. Come on.

(''Scene ends with Sarah and Jonas leaving. It cuts next to Daniel jumping over a fence, causing him to fall.'')

'''Daniel:''' Bawah! Uh!

'''Jonas:''' Get up! Get up! (''Daniel gets up and stops a few feet away, panting'')

'''Daniel:''' Hold on!

'''Jonas:''' I think we lost them.

'''Daniel:''' Let's just take a minute.

(''Scene cuts to Jonas in the same place, holding the camera to himself, holding a gun in the other hand. He repeatedly looks over his shoulder.'')

'''Jonas:''' I think we lost them. We're running from that guy [[Virgil]], that [[Watcher]], that same guy that I had a run-in with [[My Fatal Mistake|in the woods]]. Well, we ditched the car and we went on foot to try to lose them. I think we did. (''to Daniel'') What?

'''Daniel:''' Why are we running from him again? I don't even understand, man. I thought he was on our side.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, well, we don't know that. And besides, [[Emma|Emma's]] location is on this tape. We can't afford to lose it.

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, that's only if he can't find it on the forum there, dude.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, well, obviously he didn't or why would he be following us? Oh, [[Four-letter words|shit]]! Shit! Take the camera!

'''Daniel:''' Give it, give it, give it.

(''Jonas shoots three times. The camera pans to Virgil quickly hiding behind an old building above them. Suddenly he is running after Jonas and Daniel. Scene cuts to Jonas running between some pillars that belong to a building.'')

'''Jonas:''' This way! Come on! Alright, man. Go, go, go! (''The camera shows Virgil running behind them. Then pans to Jonas crossing the street. Next, the camera cuts to Jonas running through the aisles of a convenience store. He leaves the store. Next, Jonas is leading Daniel into a house.'') Follow me. This way. (''they enter a living room'') Don't move! Come on!

(''Jonas trips trying to reach a door'')

'''Daniel:''' You all right?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. Come on!

'''Daniel:''' Is it locked?

'''Jonas:''' Yes.

'''Woman:''' Yeah!

(''A woman is washing dishes in the next room. Jonas runs past her to the door that leads outside.'')

'''Jonas:''' Sorry, sorry, sorry. Really sorry.

(''Jonas jumps over a rail.'')

'''Daniel:''' Come on, man! Hurry up! (''Jonas runs down some stairs. Camera pans to Virgil on their heels'') He's coming up! Come on! (''Jonas struggles momentarily with a railed door.'') Hurry up! (''Virgil runs into the door, reaching for Jonas through the bars. Virgil finally tries to open the door from the outside.'' Come on!

'''Jonas:''' Run! Run!

(''A car honks as Jonas and Daniel tell each other to "Come on!" and "Run!" Camera shows Virgil already catching up once more. Sarah drives a car up next to them, honking the horn. Daniel gets in the back and Jonas the front'') Come on, come on, come on! I got gun! He's right behind me!

'''Sarah:''' Are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay?

'''Jonas:''' Just go!

(''Cuts to Sarah walking up to the Pleasant Manor Security Guard, who is guarding a gate, while Jonas and Daniel hide behind some bushes.'')

'''Sarah:''' Hey, um, excuse me?

'''Pleasant Manor Security Guard:''' Can I help you?

'''Sarah:''' Yeah, um, my car broke down just--just right down the road. Uh, is there anyway that you can help me? I-I'm just-I don't really know much about anythi--

'''Pleasant Manor Security Guard:''' I-I can't leave here. I'm sorry.

'''Sarah:''' Oh. Right. Okay. No. Um, it's just--it's just a second. It's seriously ''right'' there. Honestly. I promise you. It's just ''right'' there. And I don't know anything about mechanics. I mean, I don't even know if that's the right word.

'''Pleasant Manor Security Guard:''' Just right down the road?

'''Sarah:''' Please? It's just right there. (''grabs on to the Pleasant Manor Security Guard's sleeve with a pouty look on her face'') Please, please?

'''Pleasant Manor Security Guard:''' Just-just for a second.

'''Sarah:''' (''jumps up'') Thank you!

(''They walk away together. Scene cuts to Jonas holding a gun entering the gate.'')

'''Daniel:''' Man, I can't believe she pulled it off.

'''Jonas:''' I know, that was amazing. Come on.

'''Daniel:''' You think she's okay?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. She should be fine. Come on! (''They run until Jonas stops near an opening in a hedge.'') That's it. That's Pleasant Manor. [[Alex]]--Alex's mom, my step-grandma, if you're following any of that, she took us here when we were kids for some party. It was winter solstice or whatever. Anyway, it was her and all her weirdo cult friends who turned out to be weirdo [[Hymn of One]] people. Why is Emma here? Well, she's here because I'm guessing our rogue [[Elder]] is the same guy who threw that party. Check it out. Look.

(''Camera pans to Pleasant Manor. Scene cuts to Jonas and Daniel sneaking closer to the manor.'')

'''Daniel:''' Hey! What about over there?

'''Jonas:''' I-I dunno, man. What are we gonna do? Climb the wall? What do you think?

'''Daniel:''' There's Sarah! There's Sarah right there!

'''Sarah:''' (''a few yards away, motioning for them to come closer'') Guys! You guys! Over here!

'''Jonas:''' Let's go.

'''Daniel:''' Go, go, go.

(''They run toward Sarah.'')

'''Sarah:''' Guys, hurry up. (''Jonas and Daniel whisper to her.'') Come on. No, no, no. I'm fine. What did you think I was gonna do? Stay hiding--

'''Jonas:''' Shh! Shh!

'''Sarah:''' You guys, this way.

(''Opens a door on the side of the building.'')

'''Jonas:''' Careful. Let me go first.

'''Sarah:''' Okay.

(''Jonas examines surroundings with gun drawn.'')

'''Jonas:''' Hey, hey. Careful.

'''Sarah:''' Sorry. (''Jonas mutters indistinctly'') Yeah, sure, go ahead.

(''Jonas enters the kitchen. They duck when they see someone outside the window.'')

'''Jonas:''' Get down, get down. There's a guy there. (''Jonas gets up and walks away'') Is he following us? Is he coming?

'''Daniel:''' No. Oh my God.

(''Sarah exhales as she and Daniel follow Jonas. Jonas stops before entering a room with a glass door and stairs.'')

'''Jonas:''' Shh!

(''Scene cuts to heavy rattle and Daniel running up the stairs, followed by Sarah and Jonas.'')

'''Daniel:''' Go, go, go, man! Come on, come on, come on! (''Jonas trips'') Get up, man! Get up! Sarah, come on! Let's go!

(''Camera pans to downstairs, where six Order Agents are chasing them. Shouts and screams are heard. They enter a room.'')

'''Jonas:''' In here! Go, go, go, go! Shut it! You got it?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah!

(''One of their pursuers manages to get his arm through the door. As Daniel tries to push it back, a shot is fired.'')

'''Jonas:''' A chair! A chair! Hold on! Got it! Sarah, look out!

'''Daniel:''' Sarah, look for a way out!

'''Sarah:''' What? What do you want me to do?

'''Daniel:''' Find a way out!

'''Sarah:''' Um, there's more of it outside the window. You guys, hurry! (''she tries to undo the locks'') Oh, shit. Oh!

'''Jonas:''' Here, here! Film this.

'''Sarah:''' Okay.

'''Jonas:''' Listen to me! There's no time to edit. I'm just gonna post this right now, all right? This is gonna be the last time you hear from us. Shit! There's, like, four guys out there!

'''Sarah:''' Oh, God. Oh, God.

'''Jonas:''' Listen to me, if you don't hear from us by noon tomorrow, then we're just, we... Just keep fighting! Just keep fighting [[the Order]]!

==Notes==
*At 07:49, this is the longest video in the series to date.
*Daniel strategically positions a chair below the door, which is an almost guaranteed way to prevent many closed doors from being opened. Ironically, this only works on door with handles and would have no effect whatsoever on a door knob being turned.
*This is the first blog to utilize the MySpaceTV player as opposed to YouTube since the [[12 in 12|Season One finale]].
*In this video, we learn that the Watcher who "helped" Jonas is named Virgil, after the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil ancient Roman poet].

Talk:Is This The End?

2007-10-28T00:41:18Z

Greenie:

Talk:What Happened?

2007-10-28T00:39:15Z

Greenie:

Talk:Is This The End?

2007-10-26T18:06:34Z

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Talk:Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far

2007-10-25T18:18:17Z

Greenie:

==Spencer==
*Can we maybe add Spencer to the cast, he clearly appears in the beginning during the finale recap and his voice appears later.

==Lateness==

*Is there any particular reason that this video doesn't include any clips from recent videos like Emma being held captive or Chris or the Wyman Foundation thing?
**I wish I knew... it seems odd they'd leave it out. [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 13:18, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

==Ceremony==

*My guess is that they're going to go try to help Emma... these videos are starting to have a pattern of coming out in time for the ceremony. Also, what is this about extended videos?! This excites me. Also, could this maybe be a promotional thing? I mean, they used part of the first recap for the TV Guide awards video. I'm wondering if they didn't make this for something similar. But then again, they had quite a lot of spoilers in it, and came out and said "Bree's Dead" quite a lot... [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 13:18, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Trait Negative

2007-10-25T00:37:09Z

Greenie:

If they watched the LG15 videos, shouldn't they know who he is? --[[User:72.240.18.239|72.240.18.239]] 14:07, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
:I have a feeling that only Tariq watched the videos and just minorly informed Gavin and Charlie. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 17:51, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

== AHHH! SPENCER! ==

I'm gonna go run around my house multiple times. [[User:-R-|-R-]] 17:59, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
*::Jumps for Joy:: I hope he really truly comes back, not just in an unseen/unheard way! [[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 19:37, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

User:Greenie

2007-10-25T00:19:15Z

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2007-10-25T00:16:32Z

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User:Greenie

2007-10-25T00:13:49Z

Greenie: