LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/Fanfic revamp - Revision history

LordGreystoke422: Deletion Nomination

2008-08-06T06:50:44Z

Deletion Nomination

Renegade: One would think a bold "do not initiate any further discussion" is clear enough....moved to Talk:Dreams from the Breeniverse

2008-05-13T22:56:29Z

One would think a bold "do not initiate any further discussion" is clear enough....moved to Talk:Dreams from the Breeniverse

Shiori: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T22:44:46Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

Shiori: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T22:41:16Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

Shiori: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T22:40:11Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

Shiori: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T22:39:39Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

Modelmotion: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T22:23:58Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

69.84.124.209: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T22:22:28Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

QtheC: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-13T18:30:50Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

Shiori: /* Dreams from the Breeniverse */

2008-05-12T04:54:37Z

‎Dreams from the Breeniverse

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		+	{{delete\|As this project has been all but abandoned for months, I suggest the same standard and logic that was utilized and discussed in it with regards to fanfiction be applied to it and that it be removed from the LGPedia. See Discussion}}
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	:'''''Phase 2 of the LGPedia UGC/Fanfic Revamp is currently in progress. Please do <u>not</u> initiate any further discussion - any late concerns with the current Tier listing can be addressed in later requests for re-evaluation.''' Click [[#Schedule\|here]] for further information on the process.''		:'''''Phase 2 of the LGPedia UGC/Fanfic Revamp is currently in progress. Please do <u>not</u> initiate any further discussion - any late concerns with the current Tier listing can be addressed in later requests for re-evaluation.''' Click [[#Schedule\|here]] for further information on the process.''

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 I got the PM I was waiting for, but it was not as clear as I hoped. Please stand by while this is sorted out.
 :~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:41, 25 March 2008 (CDT)
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-::::As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" Are you really so upset by this PREMEDITATED action that you refuse to edit on the Pedia anymore? o.O - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:39, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
+::::As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" Are you really so upset by this PREMEDITATED action that you refuse to edit on the Pedia anymore? o.O
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-::::As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:39, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
+::::As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" Are you really so upset by this PREMEDITATED action that you refuse to edit on the Pedia anymore? o.O - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:39, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
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 :::"Descriptions I'm against solely because the idea here is to cut down on content." ~  I think that statement requires an explanation.  Exactly why is "content" the enemy?  Has anyone actually defined the parameters needed to allow the LGPedia admins the ability to better manage the community videos area?  Surely content is not the enemy here.  I think individuality is important to any series so the goal should be to balance creative needs against administrative needs.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:23, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
-:::Guys, guys. Seriously, don't get so defensive. Note that this is ''just my opinion'', and if you want it different, ''you can go take care of it yourselves''. Personally, I just don't like the idea of video descriptions because I think a combined description of ALL the videos would probably be better (especially considering how disjointed they are). My point is I think several paragraphs of text generally looks better than:
+::::Guys, guys. Seriously, don't get so defensive. Note that this is ''just my opinion'', and if you want it different, ''you can go take care of it yourselves''. Personally, I just don't like the idea of video descriptions because I think a combined description of ALL the videos would probably be better (especially considering how disjointed they are). My point is I think several paragraphs of text generally looks better than:
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-:::As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:39, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
+::::As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 17:39, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
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 ::The way this revamp is organized is misguided in my view.  A much simpler solution would have been to list all the series, and then add a single  summary page (akin to the video pages on the LGPedia) for every series, no matter how big or how small, with a single master "UGC Index" listing page that points to these individual summary pages.
 ::An indication of associated series (i.e. theCoalition) could be given in the "UGC Index."  Then, for a given series, a list of links could be provided from the single summary page to all related pages, with little or no tight control over what those might be - let them be unique and a little chaotic and fun and as informative as possible.  Add some organizing pages, and then let people work on revamping/improving the content pages on a series by series basis, that's sensible, but quit trying to control every little thing.  It's ruining the spirit of the LGPedia and discourages community involvement.  Fight the Order. ~ [[User:QtheC|QtheC]] 13:30, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
-::::::"Descriptions I'm against solely because the idea here is to cut down on content." ~  I think that statement requires an explanation.  Exactly why is "content" the enemy?  Has anyone actually defined the parameters needed to allow the LGPedia admins the ability to better manage the community videos area?  Surely content is not the enemy here.  I think individuality is important to any series so the goal should be to balance creative needs against administrative needs.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:23, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
+:::"Descriptions I'm against solely because the idea here is to cut down on content." ~  I think that statement requires an explanation.  Exactly why is "content" the enemy?  Has anyone actually defined the parameters needed to allow the LGPedia admins the ability to better manage the community videos area?  Surely content is not the enemy here.  I think individuality is important to any series so the goal should be to balance creative needs against administrative needs.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:23, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
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 :Playlist, sure. (This can, and most likely will, be put under the External Links section.) Listing, maybe (I'm generally against any straight-out listing of videos, though.) As for pictures...Why? The dreams are chaotic, and it's not like one picture is going to give you an idea of what a particular video was about. Descriptions I'm against solely because the idea here is to cut down on content. Couldn't you give descriptions of the videos without just flat-out giving things the format of Here's What Happens in Video 1:, etc. etc.?
 :BTW, Q, no one's checking this page anymore. The revamp is already in progress, and as you can see, the Dreams page needs work. It would be better to just go to it rather than saying what other people should do, you know? Thanks, though! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 23:54, 11 May 2008 (CDT)
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 ====Dreams from the Breeniverse====
 Whether it is labeled 'tier 2' or 'tier 3' the page for this particular series should include a concise list of links to the videos, possibly with a short description and thumbnail for each.  The videos are fairly independent creations usually focusing on one character each, not so much a single narrative, so a lumped summary will not really cover them very well.  Also, linking just to the account the videos are provided on (jerrypwjr on YouTube) does not really work because they are mixed in with other videos by the same creator on that account.  Note: there is a playlist available on that account for the Dreams series which could be linked to, but a listing on the page would make it easier to find an individual video.  The lgpedia page should be as useful as possible.  ~ [[User:QtheC|QtheC]] 13:08, 10 May 2008 (CDT)
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