User talk:QtheC - Revision history

Shiori at 21:31, 20 March 2008

2008-03-20T21:31:50Z

QtheC: /* Vandalism */ Deletion Policy

2008-03-20T19:18:23Z

‎Vandalism: Deletion Policy

Shiori: /* Vandalism */

2008-03-19T13:37:23Z

‎Vandalism

QtheC: /* Vandalism */

2008-03-19T13:25:47Z

‎Vandalism

Shiori: /* Vandalism */

2008-03-19T13:01:42Z

‎Vandalism

Shiori: /* Vandalism */

2008-03-19T13:00:09Z

‎Vandalism

Shiori at 12:59, 19 March 2008

2008-03-19T12:59:59Z

QtheC: /* Welcome */

2007-06-07T04:22:19Z

‎Welcome

Jonpro at 01:17, 7 June 2007

2007-06-07T01:17:48Z

Jonpro: Welcome

2007-06-06T21:01:14Z

Welcome

New page

== Welcome ==

Hi, I just noticed that no one had officially welcomed you here yet, so I thought I'd go ahead and do it. So, welcome to LGPedia! I think I remember seeing you on the [[comment board]]s, so it's great to have more people from there helping out here. And I really like the idea behind the [[Breeniversisms]] page. We've had separate pages about those things floating around for a while, but it's nice to be able to see them all in one place. It'll be a good reference guide for people trying to learn all the "inside" things that LG fans have a tendency to produce. Anyway, welcome again and if you have any questions, fell free to ask me on my [[User talk:Jonpro|talk page]].--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:01, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

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 :I'd love to, except.... I can't. Once an edit is made, all the information is stored forever and cannot be changed. Okay, maybe that's not ''completely'' true, but essentially that's the case. Don't worry though, people forget to log in all the time. If you want to put on a note saying that the IP address is really you, feel free. I know that's the approach some people have taken.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:17, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
-== Vandalism ==
+== Disputed Content Usage ==
-{{Vandal}}
 Look, QtheC, I really do appreciate you as a Pedia editor, but you can't go adding content that you ''know'' is currently being disputed to pages willy-nilly. That's like if I decided to say on Gina's page for example, that her accent is slightly Australian and it was being disputed, and then I decided to add that information to the Crystal Young page and the Mexican Mating Machine page. Like I said, I'll let it stay on the 437 page until the dispute is resolved.
 But you can consider this your final warning. I can and will, if you edit the LG15 Today page again with the userbox information, ban you for a week. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:59, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
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 :::Perhaps you should review the [[LGPedia:Deletion_Policy]].  It is, of course, refering to page deletions which adhere to a higher standard than small edits, but the spirit of the process is clear.  ''Only admins of the LGPedia can delete pages. Pages that only contain inflammatory content, are hateful, are clearly advertisements or spam can be deleted without discussion. Other pages will typically go through a discussion process of no less than one week. For larger articles, this discussion period can be extended. If there is no consensus, the issue will be put to a vote.''  If  that is required for page deletions, surely a simple discussion is merited where a deletion is under consideration of something that is not offensive, etc. ~ [[User:QtheC|QtheC]] 14:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
 As a separate matter, is it appropriate for a non-moderator user, such as shiori, to add a "vandal" tag to another user's talk page?  I wasn't fooled by this false assumption of authority, but others might be in the future.  The user in question is on "spam patrol" but that has no bearing here. (Note:  After she applied the tag here, I applied the same tag to her talk page as a rebuttal, so if she is wrong here, then I was wrong there and it should be corrected also.) ~ [[User:QtheC|QtheC]] 14:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

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	:You were wrong in the first place, shiori, to delete the material without first engaging in a discussion on it's talk page, suggesting such a removal and offering reasons why or suggesting alternatives so that it might be discussed, and have subbornly continued this unproductive approach, escalating rather than resolving conflict. ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 08:25, 19 March 2008 (CDT)		:You were wrong in the first place, shiori, to delete the material without first engaging in a discussion on it's talk page, suggesting such a removal and offering reasons why or suggesting alternatives so that it might be discussed, and have subbornly continued this unproductive approach, escalating rather than resolving conflict. ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 08:25, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
	::IIRC, QtheC, you don't have to provide a rationale for deleting something that was added to a page unless you're either blanking or one if requested. This is especially true for something that is not adding pertinent ''important'' content to a page. I am, of course, sorry that I seem to have offended you and you seem to think I'm personally attacking you, but I will not apologize for trying to resolve this the way I have done. - [[User:Shiori\|Shiori]] 08:37, 19 March 2008 (CDT)		::IIRC, QtheC, you don't have to provide a rationale for deleting something that was added to a page unless you're either blanking or one if requested. This is especially true for something that is not adding pertinent ''important'' content to a page. I am, of course, sorry that I seem to have offended you and you seem to think I'm personally attacking you, but I will not apologize for trying to resolve this the way I have done. - [[User:Shiori\|Shiori]] 08:37, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
		+	:::Perhaps you should review the [[LGPedia:Deletion_Policy]]. It is, of course, refering to page deletions which adhere to a higher standard than small edits, but the spirit of the process is clear. ''Only admins of the LGPedia can delete pages. Pages that only contain inflammatory content, are hateful, are clearly advertisements or spam can be deleted without discussion. Other pages will typically go through a discussion process of no less than one week. For larger articles, this discussion period can be extended. If there is no consensus, the issue will be put to a vote.'' If that is required for page deletions, surely a simple discussion is merited where a deletion is under consideration of something that is not offensive, etc. ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 14:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
		+	As a separate matter, is it appropriate for a non-moderator user, such as shiori, to add a "vandal" tag to another user's talk page? I wasn't fooled by this false assumption of authority, but others might be in the future. The user in question is on "spam patrol" but that has no bearing here. (Note: After she applied the tag here, I applied the same tag to her talk page as a rebuttal, so if she is wrong here, then I was wrong there and it should be corrected also.) ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 14:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

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	:I am not a vandal and have not spammed or abused the LGPedia. You are so far out of line now, shiori, that I request an public apology, and will seek one via Zoey now. If anyone deserves to have privileges suspended at this point it is you, not me. You are abusing the trust that the administrators of this shared community resource have placed in you, and I hope for a speedy correction to your mistakes.		:I am not a vandal and have not spammed or abused the LGPedia. You are so far out of line now, shiori, that I request an public apology, and will seek one via Zoey now. If anyone deserves to have privileges suspended at this point it is you, not me. You are abusing the trust that the administrators of this shared community resource have placed in you, and I hope for a speedy correction to your mistakes.
	:You were wrong in the first place, shiori, to delete the material without first engaging in a discussion on it's talk page, suggesting such a removal and offering reasons why or suggesting alternatives so that it might be discussed, and have subbornly continued this unproductive approach, escalating rather than resolving conflict. ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 08:25, 19 March 2008 (CDT)		:You were wrong in the first place, shiori, to delete the material without first engaging in a discussion on it's talk page, suggesting such a removal and offering reasons why or suggesting alternatives so that it might be discussed, and have subbornly continued this unproductive approach, escalating rather than resolving conflict. ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 08:25, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
		+	::IIRC, QtheC, you don't have to provide a rationale for deleting something that was added to a page unless you're either blanking or one if requested. This is especially true for something that is not adding pertinent ''important'' content to a page. I am, of course, sorry that I seem to have offended you and you seem to think I'm personally attacking you, but I will not apologize for trying to resolve this the way I have done. - [[User:Shiori\|Shiori]] 08:37, 19 March 2008 (CDT)

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	Look, QtheC, I really do appreciate you as a Pedia editor, but you can't go adding content that you ''know'' is currently being disputed to pages willy-nilly. That's like if I decided to say on Gina's page for example, that her accent is slightly Australian and it was being disputed, and then I decided to add that information to the Crystal Young page and the Mexican Mating Machine page. Like I said, I'll let it stay on the 437 page until the dispute is resolved.		Look, QtheC, I really do appreciate you as a Pedia editor, but you can't go adding content that you ''know'' is currently being disputed to pages willy-nilly. That's like if I decided to say on Gina's page for example, that her accent is slightly Australian and it was being disputed, and then I decided to add that information to the Crystal Young page and the Mexican Mating Machine page. Like I said, I'll let it stay on the 437 page until the dispute is resolved.
	But you can consider this your final warning. I can and will, if you edit the LG15 Today page again with the userbox information, ban you for a week. - [[User:Shiori\|Shiori]] 07:59, 19 March 2008 (CDT)		But you can consider this your final warning. I can and will, if you edit the LG15 Today page again with the userbox information, ban you for a week. - [[User:Shiori\|Shiori]] 07:59, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
		+	:That is not what is happening here. I added a link from LG15 Today to a related Userbox, without including that Userbox itself since such inclusion was under discussion elsewhere. There is no established policy on the inclusion of Userboxes or links to the Userbox page, and deleting such content without such a policy as you have done is arbitrary censorship and closer to vandalism than anything I have done. In addition to adding that link, I took the proactive step of offering a proposed guidance for Userbox usage on the Userbox page, so that a discussion could occur to resolve the issue in a cooperative way. This is how the LGPedia should operate.
		+	:I am not a vandal and have not spammed or abused the LGPedia. You are so far out of line now, shiori, that I request an public apology, and will seek one via Zoey now. If anyone deserves to have privileges suspended at this point it is you, not me. You are abusing the trust that the administrators of this shared community resource have placed in you, and I hope for a speedy correction to your mistakes.
		+	:You were wrong in the first place, shiori, to delete the material without first engaging in a discussion on it's talk page, suggesting such a removal and offering reasons why or suggesting alternatives so that it might be discussed, and have subbornly continued this unproductive approach, escalating rather than resolving conflict. ~ [[User:QtheC\|QtheC]] 08:25, 19 March 2008 (CDT)

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 == Vandalism ==
-{{Vandal2}}
+{{Vandal}}
 Look, QtheC, I really do appreciate you as a Pedia editor, but you can't go adding content that you ''know'' is currently being disputed to pages willy-nilly. That's like if I decided to say on Gina's page for example, that her accent is slightly Australian and it was being disputed, and then I decided to add that information to the Crystal Young page and the Mexican Mating Machine page. Like I said, I'll let it stay on the 437 page until the dispute is resolved.
 But you can consider this your final warning. I can and will, if you edit the LG15 Today page again with the userbox information, ban you for a week. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:59, 19 March 2008 (CDT)

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	:I'd love to, except.... I can't. Once an edit is made, all the information is stored forever and cannot be changed. Okay, maybe that's not ''completely'' true, but essentially that's the case. Don't worry though, people forget to log in all the time. If you want to put on a note saying that the IP address is really you, feel free. I know that's the approach some people have taken.--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 20:17, 6 June 2007 (CDT)		:I'd love to, except.... I can't. Once an edit is made, all the information is stored forever and cannot be changed. Okay, maybe that's not ''completely'' true, but essentially that's the case. Don't worry though, people forget to log in all the time. If you want to put on a note saying that the IP address is really you, feel free. I know that's the approach some people have taken.--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 20:17, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
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		+	== Vandalism ==
		+	{{Vandal2}}
		+	Look, QtheC, I really do appreciate you as a Pedia editor, but you can't go adding content that you ''know'' is currently being disputed to pages willy-nilly. That's like if I decided to say on Gina's page for example, that her accent is slightly Australian and it was being disputed, and then I decided to add that information to the Crystal Young page and the Mexican Mating Machine page. Like I said, I'll let it stay on the 437 page until the dispute is resolved.
		+	But you can consider this your final warning. I can and will, if you edit the LG15 page again with the userbox information, ban you for a week. - [[User:Shiori\|Shiori]] 07:59, 19 March 2008 (CDT)

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	Hi, I just noticed that no one had officially welcomed you here yet, so I thought I'd go ahead and do it. So, welcome to LGPedia! I think I remember seeing you on the [[comment board]]s, so it's great to have more people from there helping out here. And I really like the idea behind the [[Breeniversisms]] page. We've had separate pages about those things floating around for a while, but it's nice to be able to see them all in one place. It'll be a good reference guide for people trying to learn all the "inside" things that LG fans have a tendency to produce. Anyway, welcome again and if you have any questions, fell free to ask me on my [[User talk:Jonpro\|talk page]].--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 16:01, 6 June 2007 (CDT)		Hi, I just noticed that no one had officially welcomed you here yet, so I thought I'd go ahead and do it. So, welcome to LGPedia! I think I remember seeing you on the [[comment board]]s, so it's great to have more people from there helping out here. And I really like the idea behind the [[Breeniversisms]] page. We've had separate pages about those things floating around for a while, but it's nice to be able to see them all in one place. It'll be a good reference guide for people trying to learn all the "inside" things that LG fans have a tendency to produce. Anyway, welcome again and if you have any questions, fell free to ask me on my [[User talk:Jonpro\|talk page]].--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 16:01, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

−	:I'd love to, except.... I can't. Once an edit is made, all the information is stored forever and cannot be changed. Okay, maybe that's not ''completely'' true, but essentially that's the case. Don't worry though, people forget to log in all the time. If you want to put on a note ~~on [[User:66.68.76.191]]~~ saying that the IP address is really you, feel free. I know that's the approach some people have taken.--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 20:17, 6 June 2007 (CDT)	+	:I'd love to, except.... I can't. Once an edit is made, all the information is stored forever and cannot be changed. Okay, maybe that's not ''completely'' true, but essentially that's the case. Don't worry though, people forget to log in all the time. If you want to put on a note saying that the IP address is really you, feel free. I know that's the approach some people have taken.--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 20:17, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

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	Hi, I just noticed that no one had officially welcomed you here yet, so I thought I'd go ahead and do it. So, welcome to LGPedia! I think I remember seeing you on the [[comment board]]s, so it's great to have more people from there helping out here. And I really like the idea behind the [[Breeniversisms]] page. We've had separate pages about those things floating around for a while, but it's nice to be able to see them all in one place. It'll be a good reference guide for people trying to learn all the "inside" things that LG fans have a tendency to produce. Anyway, welcome again and if you have any questions, fell free to ask me on my [[User talk:Jonpro\|talk page]].--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 16:01, 6 June 2007 (CDT)		Hi, I just noticed that no one had officially welcomed you here yet, so I thought I'd go ahead and do it. So, welcome to LGPedia! I think I remember seeing you on the [[comment board]]s, so it's great to have more people from there helping out here. And I really like the idea behind the [[Breeniversisms]] page. We've had separate pages about those things floating around for a while, but it's nice to be able to see them all in one place. It'll be a good reference guide for people trying to learn all the "inside" things that LG fans have a tendency to produce. Anyway, welcome again and if you have any questions, fell free to ask me on my [[User talk:Jonpro\|talk page]].--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 16:01, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
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		+	:I'd love to, except.... I can't. Once an edit is made, all the information is stored forever and cannot be changed. Okay, maybe that's not ''completely'' true, but essentially that's the case. Don't worry though, people forget to log in all the time. If you want to put on a note on [[User:66.68.76.191]] saying that the IP address is really you, feel free. I know that's the approach some people have taken.--[[User:Jonpro\|Jonpro]] 20:17, 6 June 2007 (CDT)