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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:27, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
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i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N.
 
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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: Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
: Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
: Description?  yeah.  okay. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13
 
: Description?  yeah.  okay. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13
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::Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex?  --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
::Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex?  --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
:::I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
:::I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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: I think the girls are just trying to belittle him, in this video and the response video, as much as they can. Afterall, if they break Jonas and Daniel apart...whats left of the dynamic trio? --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 05:53, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
  
 
== "This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex." ==
 
== "This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex." ==
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No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
  
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All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 
All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
  
== absurd connections ==
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== Absurd connections ==
  
 
* this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex.  this video shows us that sarah believes. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
 
* this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex.  this video shows us that sarah believes. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
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* sarah could possibly be making a connection between the "hym of one is fun" and "sex is for fun" but based on her personality (being the type of person who doesn't think much and simply acts on impulse) her character probably isn't making any sort of profound allusion.  - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
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::I totally agree with you on the first point, and I think we've hashed out a nice version of that note together. :->  As for the second, while I agree with your point, I wouldn't necessarily label Sarah as someone who "doesn't think much."  The fact that she completely changed her identity (as she used to be a cheerleader) shows that there's something going on in her head.  I think that everything she does, says, and wears, is very calculated, and I wouldn't put anything past her. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 16:00, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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::Meh.  It's not a big deal.  I'd somehow combine it into a single point if i could.  Certainly Sarah does some thinking but it's not her primary function.  Wouldn't you agree that she's far more emotional than cerebral?  She doesn't really break the stereotype mold of the hip cheerleader type. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
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* Am I the only person who thinks the supposed connection between the "Hymn of One is fun" and "sex is for fun", let alone "sex is for the Hymn of One", is ridiculous?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:umm... yes.  yes. you are.  ...did you not read the above comments? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
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::I did. Obviously, you and JBshryne are not the only two people on this website who might have an opinion. For example, the person who just posted below what I am writing now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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::i never claimed to be the only person with an opinion.  umm... you did.  want to reread the exchange above? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypyus]] june 14 2k7
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:I totally think the "sex is for the Hymn of One" thing is crap. Can someone PLEASE explain it because it doesn't make sense.
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::Let's not attack everyone over a little note now. I agree with jeans. I think it's a quite absurd note. It is a stretch of a connection. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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::"Sex is fun" and the "Hymn of One is fun" merely connects in the fact that the phrases are similar. If Sarah has been programmed previously from the Hymn of One, perhaps some of their teachings are still merely dormant in her mind, but seep out time to time. Her and her sister are still connected to the order just by knowing Jules. We need to stop siding with them and start investigating their pasts! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Bit at the end ==
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i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:76.104.199.147|76.104.199.147]] ([[User talk:76.104.199.147|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/76.104.199.147|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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:You weren't the only one! xD --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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== Not suggesting she and Daniel had sex ==
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If you look at 1:00, Sarah states "and not with anyone else." So instead of suggesting that she and Daniel had sex in those locations, she's suggesting she's had her "fun" masturbating in those locations.--[[User:67.173.47.123|67.173.47.123]] 12:04, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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:: That was my thought too! >=D --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 13:57, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Statutory rape? ==
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Bree was 16 when she met Jonas at 19. Is it possible they're less than three years apart?
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[[User:LoneIygirl15|LoneIygirl15]] 5:51, 14 June 2007
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:even if Bree agreed to having sex with Jonas, he is still over the age of 18, so it is technically stat. rape. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:59, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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* bree is 17 and jonas is 19... so jonas is exempt from rape charges under part b of the law.  so i removed the statutory rape note. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 14 2k7
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:I've never read it, and I'm sure you're right, but I was just wondering were I could check this out. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:18, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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::This comes from [http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/jud/rpt/2003-R-0376.htm www.cga.ct.gov], an official site listing the variance of statutory rape laws in different states.  For California, it reads:
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:::''Anyone who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a person under age 18 and the actor '''is not more than three years older''' or three years younger, '''is guilty of a misdemeanor'''''
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::So, even though they're two years apart, according to California State Law, IT'S STILL A MISDEMEANOR.  While I personally don't think there's anything wrong with them "bumping uglies," the law still does. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 15:49, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

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Description

Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. Chelseyrl 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
Description? yeah. okay. - platypus june 13
Maybe sahe meant his first time where sex was just sex? 86.43.210.136 03:06, 13 June 2007 (CDT) - damn, wasnt logged in Anto
Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex? --slinky 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. Chelseyrl 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
I think the girls are just trying to belittle him, in this video and the response video, as much as they can. Afterall, if they break Jonas and Daniel apart...whats left of the dynamic trio? --Nobackspacebutton 05:53, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

"This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex."

No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! Mike In Tokyo! 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

Just has to be said...

All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ JBSHRYNE 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

Absurd connections

  • this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex. this video shows us that sarah believes. - platypus june 13 2007
  • sarah could possibly be making a connection between the "hym of one is fun" and "sex is for fun" but based on her personality (being the type of person who doesn't think much and simply acts on impulse) her character probably isn't making any sort of profound allusion. - platypus june 13 2007
I totally agree with you on the first point, and I think we've hashed out a nice version of that note together. :-> As for the second, while I agree with your point, I wouldn't necessarily label Sarah as someone who "doesn't think much." The fact that she completely changed her identity (as she used to be a cheerleader) shows that there's something going on in her head. I think that everything she does, says, and wears, is very calculated, and I wouldn't put anything past her. ~ JBSHRYNE 16:00, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
Meh. It's not a big deal. I'd somehow combine it into a single point if i could. Certainly Sarah does some thinking but it's not her primary function. Wouldn't you agree that she's far more emotional than cerebral? She doesn't really break the stereotype mold of the hip cheerleader type. - platypus june 13 2007
  • Am I the only person who thinks the supposed connection between the "Hymn of One is fun" and "sex is for fun", let alone "sex is for the Hymn of One", is ridiculous?--jeans
umm... yes. yes. you are. ...did you not read the above comments? - platypus june 13 2007
I did. Obviously, you and JBshryne are not the only two people on this website who might have an opinion. For example, the person who just posted below what I am writing now.--jeans
i never claimed to be the only person with an opinion. umm... you did. want to reread the exchange above? - platypyus june 14 2k7
I totally think the "sex is for the Hymn of One" thing is crap. Can someone PLEASE explain it because it doesn't make sense.
Let's not attack everyone over a little note now. I agree with jeans. I think it's a quite absurd note. It is a stretch of a connection. Chelseyrl 18:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
"Sex is fun" and the "Hymn of One is fun" merely connects in the fact that the phrases are similar. If Sarah has been programmed previously from the Hymn of One, perhaps some of their teachings are still merely dormant in her mind, but seep out time to time. Her and her sister are still connected to the order just by knowing Jules. We need to stop siding with them and start investigating their pasts! --Nobackspacebutton 08:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Bit at the end

i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.104.199.147 (talkcontribs) .

You weren't the only one! xD --jeans

Not suggesting she and Daniel had sex

If you look at 1:00, Sarah states "and not with anyone else." So instead of suggesting that she and Daniel had sex in those locations, she's suggesting she's had her "fun" masturbating in those locations.--67.173.47.123 12:04, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

That was my thought too! >=D --Nobackspacebutton 13:57, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Statutory rape?

Bree was 16 when she met Jonas at 19. Is it possible they're less than three years apart? LoneIygirl15 5:51, 14 June 2007

even if Bree agreed to having sex with Jonas, he is still over the age of 18, so it is technically stat. rape. --Nobackspacebutton 08:59, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
  • bree is 17 and jonas is 19... so jonas is exempt from rape charges under part b of the law. so i removed the statutory rape note. - platypus june 14 2k7
I've never read it, and I'm sure you're right, but I was just wondering were I could check this out. Chelseyrl 23:18, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
This comes from www.cga.ct.gov, an official site listing the variance of statutory rape laws in different states. For California, it reads:
Anyone who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a person under age 18 and the actor is not more than three years older or three years younger, is guilty of a misdemeanor
So, even though they're two years apart, according to California State Law, IT'S STILL A MISDEMEANOR. While I personally don't think there's anything wrong with them "bumping uglies," the law still does. ~ JBSHRYNE 15:49, 16 June 2007 (CDT)