Talk:Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...

Guidelines regarding content

I just went through the ENTIRE page in order to fix up tense, verbiage, etc., and I think this is in order. It's a consensus of everything else below, so there shouldn't be too many concerns regarding it. (If there are, post of course.)

PLEASE FOLLOW THESE OR YOUR NEWEST ADDITION WILL BE EDITED ON SIGHT.

• All additions are to be in present tense. Other tenses may be used in conjunction with a present tense clause in the same sentence.
• Keep additions concise.
• Do not add speculation or things that cannot be proven.
• Link things only once. If it's been linked elsewhere on the page, please don't link text again. (I'm willing to concede one link per section if people have concerns about this.)

Please remember that this page is being referenced to all newcomers constantly. We must keep things to the point so that the central plot can be followed without confusion. These guidelines generally follow this principle. - Shiori 13:42, 16 April 2008 (CDT)

New organized summary

This summary turned out to be well-organized. I did some editing on the page, so the verb tense would be consistant. I also removed any reference to the audience (we learned...etc.) to keep the narrative in the third person (point of view). In addition, there seems to be many, many links on the page. Does anyone think there are too many? Author(s) of that section, please see my questions/comments/revision as contributions to your work. Please understand: I'm an English teacher, and it is rare that I get to use my knowledge of verb tense, grammar, writing and revision outside of the classroom.  :) --User:Ogog November 23, 2006 (12:03 a.m.)

Apparerntly the standard wiki procedure is to link only the first appearance on a name on a page/section. For example, only the first mention of Bree needs to be linked. Its probably not doing any harm but feel free to edit it to that standard (after, of course confirming for yourself that that is the appropriate standard to use.--modelmotion 08:25, 24 November 2006 (CST)

it'd be nice if we could tie in the videos in which the events occur, and their timedates... -capi (not user at lgforum yet).

Thanks

im just a sophmore in high school and i just rant on and on and dont pay attention to my tenses. So thanks for doing that! Im glad Bree is reaching all kinds of audiences.

Merryprankster91 07:22, 24 November 2006 (CST)

Credits

I understand that its not standard procedure to give credits to authors on wiki pages. However this page was a special request from the creators and I personally do not see any harm giving credit to the major authors{s} provided they understand its an exception for this page. Its always dangerous to make exceptions but we have a lot of young viewers who should be encouraged to write. If they desire personal credit for their contribution we could just list them and perhaps encourage them to keep on contributing to this page and the wiki in general. LGpedia can be a great learning tool and I personally feel that wikis are the future. Perhaps we could get Ogog to manage this page like a "school project" and give them a little more latidude. Just my personal opinion.--modelmotion 08:25, 24 November 2006 (CST)

By all means, if Merryprankster gave the lion's share of work to this page, then give credit, but I think this talk page is the appropriate place for such credit, not the main wiki page. I appreciate the work of everyone who has contributed here, and if we see more kudos to editors given on talk pages or the user talk pages, I'm heartily for it. --Brucker 21:06, 26 November 2006 (CST)

Editing

I am also impressed by merryprankster's thorough work (I don't need any credit). I am new to wikis, but I know my grammar. I will pitch in when I can and where I can in helping merryprankster's work be the best it can be (especially after all of his/her hard work). (I wish my tenth grade students WANTED to write!)

So is the next step, so to speak, clearing up the links as the revision and editing gets finished? ----User:Ogog November 24, 2006

If the excessive linking bothers you, then you are welcome to take some of them out. However, keeping the story up to date and enticing to new "viewers' is probably the top priority. If you enjoy editing there are also plenty other pages on the LGpedia that could also benefit from your skills.--modelmotion 00:15, 25 November 2006 (CST)

Actually, the linking doesn't bother me. I was just reviewing other areas of user talk where the excessive links were brought up. I don't necessarily enjoy editing, but I don't mind chipping in. I have been working on some of the fan fiction pages (HSA) because I am sure more die-hard fans would rather work on main pages. I am new to wiki editing, so I am taking things slowly. I'd hate to make extra work for people by messing something up. As far as keeping the story up to date, I assumed that it was a priority for those interested like merryprankster or those who view more frequently than I do. I will contribute what I can to make this page reader-friendly. --User:Ogog November 25, 2006 4:26 (EST)

Yea, I am sure the merryprankster will be keeping it up to date. Its great to see such enthusiasm. I am relative new to wiki too but one of the good features is that errors can be "reversed out" using the history feature.--modelmotion 03:44, 25 November 2006 (CST)

I have revised the latest version of this page for spelling, grammar verb tense and clarity. Nice story! I have been busy with life, family, work, etc. I hope to chip in more often. I don't think I logged in, so this edit is listed by my IP 71.245.65.248 ----User:Ogog 2:40 EST 26 December 2006

Arg

Thanks for all your support guys, and Ogog, i am a guy, :-D. i tried my best to link Operation Apid into Brees story without getting too detalied about the actual game. Tell me what you think. Merryprankster91 14:54, 28 November 2006 (CST)

Timeline

I think it would be nice to include a link to the Breeniverse Timeline on this page. Although I'm not sure where is best to put it.

Tremendously disproportionate verbosity in the circumstance of a supposedly breviloquent compendiary?

Okay, these last few edits simply will not do. This is supposed to be a summary of the story, and the last two sections added on to this page are entire paragraphs on single videos each of which has description longer than the entire dialogue of all of the videos combined. Please note the difference between this and this. Try to keep it reasonably short, people.

Oh, and as for the section titles, I'm trying to stick with a theme, but a change isn't out of the question. --Brucker 09:44, 4 January 2007 (CST)

Sorry, I assumed because these last few videos signalled a turning point in the story that a developed summary could be useful. I understand. I have no hard feelings or concerns except for your sarcastic and condescending tone. I did not mean to be wordy in the summary and now realize that this summary does need to be concise. So your point is taken and accepted by me. However, your comments and description of the edit was rather humiliating. I only want to contribute to make this a professional endeavor. I am quite embarassed by the less-than-tactful way you referred to these edits. Again, I will watch the wordiness. Perhaps the style of my previous two edit (the ones that "will simply not do") would be best reserved for main video pages. However in truth, I do not have the confidence to approach a page that I consider a major page. I do feel a bit discouraged now to contribute to something that I consider a main part of the page, especially if your comment reflects the typical approach to constructive criticism. I now understand the why you find the last two edits inappropriate. Thank you for the explanation. Ogog 10:00, 4 January 2007 (CST)

Sorry if I came across as harsh, I very seldom mean to. What was written there was very well-written, just not "summary-ish" enough. What little actual frustration I did feel was not so much directed at you, but at the fact that I'm pretty sure this was not the first time excessively-worded summaries had to be pared down. I tend to be a bit obsessive about style, and this is one of a handful of issues that I've had to deal with more often than I'd like to, along with video transcript formatting style. I don't want to discourage anyone from editing (well, except for vandals, obviously) so if I've offended, please accept my apology. --Brucker 10:21, 4 January 2007 (CST)

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. As much as I discuss my career as a High School English teacher, and as much as I spend most days with a red pen correcting papers and demanding that students be concise and direct, I guess I have some work to do myself. Again, I understand where you are coming from and will continue to work on this page with economy. I certainly do not want to contribute in a way that only creates more for others. Thanks again. Ogog 10:45, 4 January 2007 (CST)

Heck, you can see from my comments on talk pages that conciseness is not my strong point. And I'm a mathematician. --Brucker 10:48, 4 January 2007 (CST)

I tried my hand at a more concise style of summarizing (actually writing a summary). Hopefully it's not too wordy. I have to say that my titles for the sections are pretty bad, but i wanted to keep with the current style of section titles. Hopefully someone will change them to something clever. I didn't add links, but I can soon. Ogog 13:30, 30 January 2007 (CST)

I thought it was good. The only thing I would have changed was the part about Daniel's drunken ranting, as it didn't really add to the plot, but it wasn't a big deal, so I left it. It's been tough summarizing the stuff since Bree's dad died, since pretty much nothing has happened plot-wise. --Brucker 15:03, 30 January 2007 (CST)

KateModern Story So Far?

Is there a "Story So Far..." page for KateModern? 66.56.186.109 17:55, 25 August 2007

If there was, there'd be three pages:

• The Story So Far...
• The Story So Far... (video)
• The Story So Far... (KateModern backstory)

  •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 11:08, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

Tense?

Is this page supposed to be past tense or present tense? I see it both ways on here and if anyone would like to help make a decision I will gladly change it all. If no one answers this in a few days, I'll probably change it all to past tense. Nancypants 20:11, 15 November 2007 (CST)

Yeaah, nevermind, not changing it all to past tense as it started in present tense and that is the predominant tense on this page. I'll just change the few past tense phrases to present tense. Thanks to all you many people for the input :P Nancypants 20:15, 20 November 2007 (CST)