Talk:Lonelygirl15 relationships

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Heterosexual Bias

This article shows a very strong heterosexual bias. What about Taylor and Bree, Sarah and Bree, Jonas and Daniel, etc. There no's evidence that Bree and Taylor aren't lesbians, (or Jules for that matter). And I think it's more likely than not, that Sarah is bisexual. Personally I'd like to see some lesbian relationships, in this series. As a young lesbian, who hates all the bullshit butch, goth, and emo stereotypes; I'd like to see some young, pretty, and emotionally balanced role models in the media. -misty 12:21, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

This page, like all the wiki, should reflect what the series is not what we'd like it to be. While Daniel and Jonas could certainly be added, there's simply not been much homosexual tension between characters otherwise. I definitely agree with your point that there should be more non-stereotyped homosexual characters in the media. But as with all other issues, the LGPedia is simply not the place to advocate for changes in the series. But by all means, add any relationships where you can honestly document hints of sexual tension. --JayHenry 13:17, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, there have clearly been tounge-in-cheek references to a Daniel and Jonas relationship. Jackson Davis joked about it a bit when he was on Mixed Media. But that's about it. You can't start making crap up like "tachyon and bree's dad" and "homeless watcher and random girl" without this all falling apart. Misty, you should watch's vlog from yesterday, john green talks about censorship of a young adult book for apparent references to a lesbian relationship. lamo censors. --Milowent 17:06, 3 May 2007 (CDT) ps. great page idea.
guys, i think we should add non-sexual relationships. i mean jonas' and daniel's relationship is a big part of the series, but all it says here is "they might be gay." there's more to relationships than whather or not they're sleeping with each other! and i realize the page was meant to track sexual relationships, but i think it could be much more interesting if it tracked the ups and downs of relationships in general.--Skeeta 00:26, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
I worry that if we try to track EVERY relationship ever on the series it will just get complicated and lose it's value. I mean, okay Bree has interacted with: Daniel, Jonas, Lucy, Watchers, Deacons, her Parents, Cassie, Andrea, Paul, Taylor, Jules, Sarah, Gemma, Gemma's Dog, Gemma's Parents, OpAphid, Tachyon, Brother, Alex, etc. I mean, to track every one of those relationships is INSANE. And then.. we'd have to do every other character. So Jonas has come in contact with Bree, Daniel, Gemma, Watchers, Lucy, Deacons, Alex, his parents, etc etc. Just think how long this page would be... and I worry that no one would even be able to follow it if it got the point where EVERY relationship was tracked. I agree that more should be added (and I believe has been since you posted this comment) about Daniel and Jonas, but really, I think this page should stick to romantic relationships, personally. --Zoey 15:17, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
yeah i know, i didn't mean relationships between random guys at parties, i meant relationships significant to the series, like jonas' and daniel's. that's definitely complex enought to be worth writing about; they've had their ups and downs.-- 23:08, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Great work

I love this page already. This is something that people always talk about, and I'm glad we have a page on it now.--Jonpro 16:18, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

Yay, I'm so glad! There's so much content to go through, so it's not nearly done. But I'm glad that it will be helpful/useful!! --Zoey 16:27, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
Just to update, I have finished this page up to the current blog. The only relationship I am missing is Gemma and Brother's. If someone can fill that in for me, the article will be done! Yay! --Zoey 17:35, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
Added Gemma and Brother. Actually, there's a little bit of sexual tension between Tachyon and Brother, it's mentioned somewhere in the Tachyon email archive. If someone feels like combing through, you might find it!. OwenIsCool 19:10, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
I added a section for Brother, with Gemma and Tachyon. SilverBULLETx3 16:34, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
Er, I noticed you'd added a lot of relationships, but didn't cite blogs or references for any of them. Are you making this up? Or do you actually have proof of these sexual tensions? Because I never got anything between Daniel and Gemma... muchless Daniel and Tachyon. If you can genuinely argue these points, please let me know, though. --Zoey 16:43, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
I remember back in the Cracked The File days that there was some talk in the forums that Daniel should hook up with Tachy because she'd be better for him than Bree. Any feelings on Daniel's side were just speculation, but in some of the Tachyon emails (in the archive on the forum) show that she thinks Daniel is quite a cutie. Daniel+Gemma though... yeah, I have to say that's pure conjecture. I'll see if I can dig up those Tachy emails. OwenIsCool 18:21, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
Here are the links to the Tachyon email archive thread and the Brother email archive thread. Here's an example of a Tachyon email from that thread:
Sparkybennett writes: Shheeesh. Being on the run must make you cranky. Daniel and Bree are all cranky and now you. So if you need help with anything , my offer still stands. Maybe getting a message to Daniel for you? See ya, Sparky.
On 11/30/06, Tachyon responds: look, they're cranky because there are some supply and demand issues and let's just say that little miss purity isn't exactly giving up the pleasure snuggles to Danny Boy. she's a good kid, but a kid nonetheless. he needs a more mature woman who can handle his complex emotions and fluctuating hormones. and let me tell you, then i wouldn't be so cranky. damn there are times i really hate this lifestyle. xoxox, T
Sadly, a lot of those posts have had the Tachyon responses removed from them, probably by mods during the Op fallout. But that Daniel one is still there! OwenIsCool 18:38, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
Ok, and here's a Tachy email that refers to Brother: Are you another one of his vengeful ex's? I keep him telling him to stop hooking up with you psychos. But you know how it goes: Crazy in bed, crazy out of bed--and believe me, I speak from experience. Excuse me, I gotta punch him in the arm 'cause that must mean he's crushing on me. xoxox, T. PS. I'll leave Op a message telling her you said 'hi.' I'm going to be sending one of your kind on a permanent vacation shortly.
That's all I got for now. OwenIsCool 18:49, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
Hehe, I feel so protective of this page. I'm totally ignorant when it comes to Op/Tach/Bro in general, so er, feel free to you know, correct me on those kinds of things when I'm wrong. It sounds like you have proof for the things you're saying. As long as you can back it up, which it sounds like you can, I really think it's fine to add Tachyon sections. I would say you probably should do it though, because I personally don't know enough about the context of the relationships to say anything remotely logical. Oh, and on another note, since no one has objected, is it okay for me to put a link to this page on the front page? Hehe, I just want to check :D I'm excited, what can I say? --Zoey 20:12, 7 May 2007 (CDT)
As for Daniel and Gemma, I'm not sure about everyone else, but I felt some sort of connection through them. Like Daniel was always on Gemma's side agreeing with her or something. Remember Gemma's video Daniel Is Right? No proof, or any "sexual" tension persay, but I think there was some sort of relationship between them? SilverBULLETx3 15:05, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
And for Daniel and Tachyon, I also felt a connection between them. "I want to call Tachyon but Bree doesn't" -Interrogation 101. Tachyon sent Daniel the package to crack the code for Bree's disk too. The caption on Jonas Sucks is perfect - "I like Tachyon's handwriting." xD I love that caption even though Daniel didn't say it. Any agreements? silverX3 15:25, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Main Page?

I don't know if it's even "kosher" for me to suggest this, since I did most of the work on the page, but would anyone object to me adding a link here from the main page? Personally, I think it's relevant because it tracks a huge aspect of the storyline and would be something that new members could find useful. But maybe I'm biased? So I def. want to get opinions on this before I go ahead and do it though.. !--Zoey 21:02, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

We might be able to add this to the main page, or if not, perhaps make it a featured article at some point. We should make sure this page links to other relevant articles and videos throughout, and I'd also like to add pictures of the different "couples" (for lack of a better word). Just all in the name of keeping things tidy and also presentable. OwenIsCool 21:22, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
Well, I added links to every video I referenced in the progression of the relationships. I can work on getting pictures for the couples. Although there will definately be some we just won't be able to get pictures of.. like Gemma's relationships.. we never actually see them. If it's not a problem to only have pictures of certain couples, I can def. start going through and finding some :) --Zoey 21:28, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

Jonas and Bree kiss

I've been searching the history and couldn't find who and why they deleted the picture of Jonas and Bree after he kissed her forehead in She's Missing. I thought it was perfectly fine and I'm just trying to understand why is was removed. Chelseyrl 14:46, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

I added Image:0189-JonasHuggingBree.jpg to the page. Is this the one you're talking about? I noticed that someone added this picture to the page before, but for some reason it didn't work (not really sure why...).--Jonpro 14:56, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. I just didn't understand why someone removed it when it had worked. Err... did it just stop working or something? I'm confused... haha. Chelseyrl 15:00, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
Well, here's the edit that it was added, and the next edit was a rollback by Zoey. On my screen the picture doesn't show up when viewing that revision in the history. I've noticed similar things like this happening before with images. The name is spelled correctly, but for some reason it just doesn't show up. I usually just re-copy and paste the name and save it and it works. Like I said, I really don't know why this happens, but it does.--Jonpro 15:05, 23 May 2007 (CDT)


We need to add relationships for Spencer. I personally don't have way with words, so I can't produce the best quality article. Love, -R- 03:54, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm not sure that we have any clear-cut relationships for Spencer yet, so I think we should hold off until we see what develops, personally :)--Zoey 12:35, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

too many characters?

  • we might be getting too many characters to map all the relationships out on one page. we might consider putting 'bre relationships' or 'jonas relationships' on their own page. - platy
  • emma and/or her parents are not represented here. - platy
  • is it worth while to document the relationship between bre jonas daneil and... the watchers? the shadows? - platy
  • im disappointed that the 'jonas is gay' people havn't made a 'jonas is gay' page. or is it out there and i'm just not aware of it? - platy sep 21
  • I really think there are too many people on here. This is the relationship page not the passing interest page. Seriously: Sarah and Joe? Daniel and Random Girl? Not necessary.

Crossover relationships

What will we do in the event of a relationship that occurs during the LG15-KM cross over. I'm not necessarily saying Jonas and Steve (although that might be a fun article), but what about when Charlie and Jonas sat in the tub together during the party?

It's already been added in. (Note: Jonas and Charlie...) - Shiori 16:28, 26 April 2008 (CDT)