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Cool page -- should also be noted somewhere that Bree has a picture of a rose in her room. It's mentioned right now on the Wired page.--JayHenry 18:16, 6 December 2006 (CST)

Nice job OwenIsCool. I'd add that a commenter said that roses do not wilt in that manner. So, Gemma must have purposely caused it to droop for the video? I'm not an expert on horticulture, though. --Treefunk 18:25, 6 December 2006 (CST)

Thx for the good feedback; do I get a gold star? O=)
I'm not sure whether to put that comment back in because another commenter on the board refuted it, and I can't say I know from personal experience. So for now I think I just won't mention the drooping. I'm going to stick it here for now so I don't have to dig through the history later to find it.
"* One user pointed out that when roses wilt, they do not bend over like other flowers do, so this one was intentionally bent. Presumably, the creators did so to draw viewers' attention to the rose and its sad state. (Comment is available here)."
OwenIsCool 18:35, 6 December 2006 (CST)

Oh, I also added the bit about the picture in Bree's bedroom and the Wired article. It came out kind of short, I wasn't sure what else to say. If I missed something feel free to add to it... I think I'm done with this article for the night. OwenIsCool 18:36, 6 December 2006 (CST)

Some good related info here: --Treefunk 15:37, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Breakfast In Bed flowers

Sydney points out another rose appearance in LG15: --Treefunk 18:12, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Seemed like worth looking into, so I watched Breakfast In Bed again. Here are the flowers.
Breakfast in Bed flowers.JPG
I thought they were white roses at first glance, but I looked at the boards and someone said they were gardenias and provided this link The picture there is
Having seen that... I think they are indeed gardenias. Seems likely, since in the vid they look like Daniel picked them, not like he bought them. Gardenias would probably be more common than roses... What do you think?
OwenIsCool 18:23, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Ah, sounds fair. Almost a shame though--this would have opened up some interesting lines of inquiry. --Treefunk 18:31, 7 December 2006 (CST)
Indeed... I almost wish they were roses. Side note: don't worry too much about Iris2009, I think everyone else is kind of waiting to see if any of his fanfic actually emerges. OwenIsCool 18:51, 7 December 2006 (CST)
im going to have to say that they are roses, and iceberg roses at that; they are WAY more common than gardenias. Gardenias typically have shot stems and are usually floated in a bowl of water, not placed in a vase as the flowers in the videos were. The flowers in the video have long, skinny stems and they appear to be iceberg roses that are just a little passed thier prime


the rose doesn't actually look wilted to me. i think people simply assumed it was because it was bent. that means it could easily have been bent a) accidentally or b) on purpose in order to get it into the shot, but not to "draw attention to its sad state" as it isn't in a sad state. i mean look at it, it seems to still have all of its petals.--Skeeta 00:33, 8 December 2006 (CST)

The rose looks very dried up to me, not to mention dark, especially at the edges of the petals. It looks shriveled, even though it is still in bud form. I agree, if it had bloomed I would have expected its petals to fall, but since it's still in a bud, they don't tend to come off individually like that. I also agree with your edit that it wasn't necessarily bent intentionally, it could have just been treated carelessly. I don't agree that they would bend it to get it in the shot; why not just cut the stem so it fits on screen? Perhaps wilted was not the right word to use... maybe "dried" rose would have been better? The consensus on the boards seems to be that it is indeed in a sad state. I didn't make up any of these interpretations, I got them all from what seemed to be the popular theories on the board. OwenIsCool 02:54, 8 December 2006 (CST)