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lihab
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 Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: The Order of the Golden Dawn |
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I'm suprised more people arent talking about this.
Not to say that i am 100% certain, but i think there is a good chance that her family may be members of the golden dawn.
while looking into the Enochian alphabet i came across this:
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The basic teachings relating to Enochian Magick and the Angelic language, as revealed by Dee and Kelly, were taken up at the end of the last century by a secret occult group known as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn . The Golden Dawn used the mysterious tablets and language in their rituals and magickal ceremonies.
source: http://www.llewellynencyclopedia.com/article/1954 |
so i started looking more into the OotGD...
OotGD was founded in London in 1888
the connection - Bree lived in Nottingham, England
Crowley was a well known member.
and according to http://www.horustemple.com/ the longest standing temple is in New Zealand, Bree lived there. AND there is another temple of note in Australia, Bree visited there.
there is a specific sect of the OotGD called Thelemic Order of the Golden Dawn, which is obviously a bit more closely tied to Crowley, which would explain the shrine to him.
| Quote: | The Thelemic Order of the Golden Dawn (Order of the T.·.G.·.D.·.) was founded on the Vernal Equinox of 1990 e.v. by David Cherubim (Frater A.·.A.·.) and past associates in Los Angeles, CA, USA. Thus the history and lineage of the Order are primarily related to our Founder's links with Thelema, Aleister Crowley and the Order of the Golden Dawn.
source: http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.org/history.htm |
in bree's "learning to drive" video, as we all know, she mentions the order of somethingorother. so far i havent seen anyone really mention that she says "they're not order of somethingorother". now i havent done much looking around the forum to see if that bit is mentioned, so sorry if its been discussed. anyway, i havent been able to find a tie to anything called "order of jethro" or "gecko" or "dethera" or anything that sounds like it. but... i just thought i would bring this all into its own little topic here.  |
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TehSpectre
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: |
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People are not going to want to believe this due to the fact that MSCassie has used the OotGD (I just wanna say "Oohtgehdeh!" when I read it.) in one of her "clues" left on the myspace page.
People do not like MSCassie.
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Woo
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Bree living in Nottingham and OOTGD formed in London a connection? I don't think so, if they had meant that to be linked they would have said she lived in London.
EDIT: i wrote cassie instead of Bree 
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lihab
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| i didnt say anything about cassie. bree and her family did. |
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DavetheAvatar
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Wait wait wait, your connection was they were in the same country?
England's not that small you know!
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Jacktwan
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| Crowley also dropped out of the golden Dawn in a bad way, and was hated by most of the members afterwards. |
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heybitch
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: Re: The Order of the Golden Dawn |
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and according to http://www.horustemple.com/ the longest standing temple is in New Zealand, Bree lived there. AND there is another temple of note in Australia, Bree visited there.
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Hahaha!
The oldest temple in tOotGD is a Whare?
Haha. hahaha.
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Louis
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: Re: The Order of the Golden Dawn |
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Todays Golden Dawn or many versions of it have no connection to the Golden Dawn which Crowley was a member. Second as someone pointed out Crowley was kicked out of Golden Dawn. He also borrowed (polite term for stole) their rituals and published them. I don't think a member of any group claiming to be connected to the Golden Dawn would have a shrine to Crowley in their bedroom. Maybe Yates but not Crowley.  |
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Woo
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I came up with something interesting when searching "order of the golden dawn" and nottingham, another place where she lived...
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10950#10950
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sparklenvy
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Like it's been stated already, Crowley left the order on less than good terms so I doubt this is the order.
Also, it sounds nothing like what she said in the video. |
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