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SharpI
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| Lurker wrote: | | You know, come to think of it, everybody just assumed that had to be Bree's room, probably because it was the only large upstairs window we saw. That was a pretty unreasonable assumption to begin with, wasn't it? Especially since it was on the front of the house... and because of where the nearest tree was positioned. |
Correct, Lurker. My recollection: Daniel non-verbally *implied* that it was Bree's room in a video (one of the "stalking the helper" vids) by focusing on it. But it was never established for sure which was (supposedly) Bree's.
IMO, we won't ever know, because none of the windows in Bree's house could be Bree's window: the Creators have a continuity error. We know from the videos that Bree's room has a south-facing window that gets full sun and never shows partial shadowing, and that Bree climbs down a tree to play hookey. The one above the driveway gets full sun but there is no climbing tree; the others are well-shadowed by trees and never get full sun.
In reality, of course, the set for Bree's room is a bedroom with a south-facing window high up in an apartment building. |
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byoung
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| that whole south facing window thing...i wouldn't put that on the level of "we know." sounds more like your own rank speculation. |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:09 am Post subject: |
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wow.
just wow.
this video was daniel furthering his skills as a B&E guy.
no injectable drug for the birthmark.
iron pills seems reasonable for the oral.
great thread
oh yeah, i also heard gilligan's island was NOT filmed on a real desert island in the south pacific. go figure.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| ericski wrote: | wow.
just wow.
this video was daniel furthering his skills as a B&E guy.
no injectable drug for the birthmark.
iron pills seems reasonable for the oral.
great thread
oh yeah, i also heard gilligan's island was NOT filmed on a real desert island in the south pacific. go figure.
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Hahaha. Ha. Oh my.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: haha |
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Well, I think if a med student said that iv antibiotics were used during the conception process, that it is a good lead. Even if the drug says it is used for one thing, it would be helpful to know what real doctors actually prescribe it for.
Klonapin is actually used to prevent seizures. It is listed somewhere on the board, and my neighbor is an RN who uses Klonapin for her seizures. I meant that Klonapin might not be effective in treating Bree's seizures (if she has them), so she would have to have injections of cerebyx instead. (Injection vs. prophylactic).
And antibiotics can be taken prophylactically. This antibiotic talks about treating resistant infections caused by massive amounts of e.coli. = poop
I'm thinking bipolarity disorder is the same thing as bipolar. Maybe different countries call it slightly different things.
I think it is a good point that Bree's dad looked like a doctor or scientist, so he may have just had the pamphlets in his office.
Or, it could have been Mesh's place, and he forgot to clean up and they filmed it all messy as a joke on him. And those are his pamphlets!
Oh no! Poor Mesh!
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| the only connection I know of with antibiotxs and fertility is that your not suppose to take them when your on the pill because they reduce the effectiveness. I Highly doubt that bree would be on the pill. Especially with her "purity bond" and all |
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Anyone think the medication pamphletts could be linked to when Bree went to the doctor's with Lucy, with Daniel hot in pursuit? Maybe she visited a "doctor" who told her she needed to take those medications when she didn't really? Did anyone ever figure out what that doctor's visit was for? Bree needs to start being more forthcoming about what actually happened when she was with lucy if we're goingt o figure this one out!
I'm not sure if I really buy the fertility treatment explanation, it seems too drawn out a link to be honest...but maybe that's the point!
I know seizures are common during religious ceremony and rapture, perhaps Bree was on them for that purpose?
I find the neurosurgery aspect pretty interesting actually, what if the ceremony involved something that could cause bree to develop seizures and the medication was for afterwards? Maybe the ceremony was actually a lobotomy for bree to turn her into a subservient little slave to the order!
It's a great video, look at all the buzz it's developed! I hope there's a new one today!
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: |
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you know I somehow doubt these pamphlets are ... significant. Bree's father is a doctor, so he could jsut have had these laying around because he was reading up on the drugs for a patient.
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| aideen wrote: | Everytime I watched that video I thought it was weird he opened the drawer. I mean, when you walk into a room, why go straight to a drawer under the TV? Tisnt normal.
Wait...if he and Bree always used to go in there, maybe they put something secret there? The mum and dad for them? Other than pmonkey?
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There's something Dan wasn't meant to see in there, that's why the dad used to always check on them! TO MAKE SURE DANIEL HADN'T OPENED THE DRAWER |
I just can't read through all the posts, I'm sooo sorry if this has been covered.
Going back to Bree's video where she's lying on a pillow, the design on it was palm-treeish like. It looks just like the plant in the corner of the office that's inside the house. Bree in that video was using words like ..'need your help'...'treated'...'shutting down'.. 'feeling better'...'clear head'...
She could be feeling better and clear headed because Jonas got her meds for her from the "BIG SHOT" in town when he went to get the "Cookies." Bree's 'Rabies' video seemed like she could've been refering somewhat to possible seizeurs. The erratic behavior, mental fog..ect.
So, perhaps Bree was telling Daniel she needed his help and where to look.. to go pick up 'more' meds from the house and maybe whatever else he could find. (could be just an excuse to lure him back to wherever she is because I don't trust her... 
Couple of extra points:
- The plant in the office seemed to have something else hidden next to it.. between the odd lamp shade with the spider and behind the bench. Something white. I don't know if it's anything, but I think that whole corner is suspicious.
- Bree's Dad was some kind of medical guy isn't it reasonable that any white robe.. is actually a doctors white uniform? Was that a robe or a pillow in the drawer Daniel opened?
Looking out the window of the office you can see the italian like flower pots... and it looks right out onto the streets. So, that would be a silly mistake for the camera guys if it was meant to be Bree's room. They spent alot of time outside and inside the window.
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Edited: Because, I'm sleep deprived and .. yeah the original was just ... so sleepy head off. (sighs) |
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byoung
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| does anyone know of any other forums...perhaps maybe beter moderated ones? |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| byoung wrote: | | does anyone know of any other forums...perhaps maybe beter moderated ones? |
Haha, that's not obvious in the least...I understand where you're coming from but if you have a problem with the moderate-ing you could PM the mods or the people you think are 'violating' the threads, etc. Or just create your own...
BOT: If Daniel can see the pamphlets of Bree's meds, that would mean that her dad DID know what they were for. As we know, he is a doctor and it wouldn't have been hard to find out. Besides, I think he would have wanted to be absolutely sure what the injections are for if he's going to inject his daughter with them.
So then we can assume:
a) someone is lying [whether it's Bree's dad or Bree, idk]
b) the pamphlets Daniel found are irrelevant to Bree's condition
c) someone has moved into the house and is ordering the meds in preparation [for Bree's return? for the ceremony? for a replacemen t?] |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| byoung wrote: | | does anyone know of any other forums...perhaps maybe beter moderated ones? |
how is this one badly moderated?
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| SharpI wrote: | | Correct, Lurker. My recollection: Daniel non-verbally *implied* that it was Bree's room in a video (one of the "stalking the helper" vids) by focusing on it. But it was never established for sure which was (supposedly) Bree's. |
I remember what you're talking about. That was the "Who Is This?" video. He did focus on that window a couple of times, though he also focused on the door and the garage door. Since he seemed to give that window more attention, we all assumed it was Bree's room.
| SharpI wrote: | | IMO, we won't ever know, because none of the windows in Bree's house could be Bree's window: the Creators have a continuity error. We know from the videos that Bree's room has a south-facing window that gets full sun and never shows partial shadowing, and that Bree climbs down a tree to play hookey. The one above the driveway gets full sun but there is no climbing tree; the others are well-shadowed by trees and never get full sun. |
How do we know Bree's window is south-facing? If it get fulls sun without shadows, wouldn't it need to either be east- or west-facing? And it is possible that her room is on the right side (from our perspective), because that side is clear of obstruction from trees (though the house next door would probably get in the way at most times of the day).
| SharpI wrote: | | In reality, of course, the set for Bree's room is a bedroom with a south-facing window high up in an apartment building. |
Yeah, it's pretty hard to reconcile the position of that room with reality -- unless Bree did a lot of filming when the sun was at just the right angle in the sky.
| glowe126 wrote: | Really mean today. I think it might be the holiday season getting to everybody. What's funny is that the only post I wanted to comment on was the neurosurgery one, so I pretty much just ignored everyone and came here and, well, perfect timing:)
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(Sorry I forgot who said this, but I don't want to go back into the other pages, because there are mean, upset people in there.) |
Check your PMs, please.
| glowe126 wrote: | | And antibiotics can be taken prophylactically. This antibiotic talks about treating resistant infections caused by massive amounts of e.coli. = poop |
They often are prescribed prophylactically, but there's also millions upon millions of antibiotic prescriptions written each year for viral infections like the flu and the common cold -- things that they're entirely ineffective against. Generally, antibiotics should not be taken as prophylactics. They're intended to be used after a bacterial infection has set in, not before.
Doctors end up prescribing them unnecessarily to give people the benefit of the placebo effect (or to get kick backs from pharmaceutical companies if you want to consider the more sinsister theory). They usually say "Don't take this until you've had the cold for two weeks" -- which is generally around the same time the cold will have begun to run its course, meaning the patient will attribute getting well to the antibiotic. It's this practice which has so greatly contributed to the emergence of bacterial infections in the world that current antibiotics are useless against.
If this Order is supposed to be smart, I can't imagine that they'd do something as insipid as give her an antibiotic constantly for over a month -- if they actually wanted the antibiotic to be of any use when whatever time came. All they would be doing is making the drug increasingly impotent. Bacteria in Bree's body would begin gaining immunity to the antibiotic, as would her body itself. If she were to actually get a bacterial infection after that, her body wouldn't take the antibiotic as well as it should, or the bacteria already in her body might pass on the immunity gene to the infection (bacteria can transfer gene coding to other bacteria).
What I'm getting at here is that either these guys are incompetent or they don't want Bree's defenses to be what they should. Can anyone think of a reason why they might want her to get sick?
| glowe126 wrote: | | Or, it could have been Mesh's place, and he forgot to clean up and they filmed it all messy as a joke on him. And those are his pamphlets! |
No, the house belongs to an acquaintence. But I believe the owner is actually a doctor.
| Killthesmiley wrote: | | you know I somehow doubt these pamphlets are ... significant. Bree's father is a doctor, so he could jsut have had these laying around because he was reading up on the drugs for a patient. |
A possibility, yes. We're at least supposed to think they might be significant, though, since -- out of all the footage they would have had -- they left the scanning of the pamphlets in that very short video. They could be a red herring, though, but they were clearly trying to give us the impression that they're significant.
| Pi wrote: | | Looking out the window of the office you can see the italian like flower pots... and it looks right out onto the streets. So, that would be a silly mistake for the camera guys if it was meant to be Bree's room. They spent alot of time outside and inside the window. |
Well, as we've discussed, it was never actually said that the room there was Bree's bedroom. A lot of us just assumed it because Daniel pointed his camera at it a couple of times.
| girlAnachronism wrote: | So then we can assume:
a) someone is lying [whether it's Bree's dad or Bree, idk]
b) the pamphlets Daniel found are irrelevant to Bree's condition
c) someone has moved into the house and is ordering the meds in preparation [for Bree's return? for the ceremony? for a replacemen t?] |
There's another possibility. Bree's dad might have begun looking into what he had been giving Bree before the Order took he and his wife away. |
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| Lurker wrote: | | glowe126 wrote: | | And antibiotics can be taken prophylactically. This antibiotic talks about treating resistant infections caused by massive amounts of e.coli. = poop |
They often are prescribed prophylactically, but there's also millions upon millions of antibiotic prescriptions written each year for viral infections like the flu and the common cold -- things that they're entirely ineffective against. Generally, antibiotics should not be taken as prophylactics. They're intended to be used after a bacterial infection has set in, not before.
Doctors end up prescribing them unnecessarily to give people the benefit of the placebo effect (or to get kick backs from pharmaceutical companies if you want to consider the more sinsister theory). They usually say "Don't take this until you've had the cold for two weeks" -- which is generally around the same time the cold will have begun to run its course, meaning the patient will attribute getting well to the antibiotic. It's this practice which has so greatly contributed to the emergence of bacterial infections in the world that current antibiotics are useless against.
If this Order is supposed to be smart, I can't imagine that they'd do something as insipid as give her an antibiotic constantly for over a month -- if they actually wanted the antibiotic to be of any use when whatever time came. All they would be doing is making the drug increasingly impotent. Bacteria in Bree's body would begin gaining immunity to the antibiotic, as would her body itself. If she were to actually get a bacterial infection after that, her body wouldn't take the antibiotic as well as it should, or the bacteria already in her body might pass on the immunity gene to the infection (bacteria can transfer gene coding to other bacteria).
What I'm getting at here is that either these guys are incompetent or they don't want Bree's defenses to be what they should. Can anyone think of a reason why they might want her to get sick?
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I was about to say, "But the creators aren't doctors -- they don't really know what this stuff does." Then I realized that in fact, the creators are doctors -- or at least Miles Beckett is, or was, one. So either Miles isn't overseeing what the scriptwriters and set directors are doing with the drug information, or these references are significant indeed. |
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Okay, that face in the window is that "itscassie" person from YouTube, and what Daniel found was a really bad wig.
Seriously, though, I agree that the "thing" on the table is supposed to be the hotel key that was stolen from B&D way back. I think Daniel's going to find a whole mess of stuff that either he's not supposed to know about OR that OpA planted for him and/or Bree to find. Why would they bother bugging Bree's room if they didn't think that one or both of them might come back, or if they've actually got someone living in Bree's house?
I'm still looking for OpA to post some surveillance footage of the Danielbeast in his natural habitat...
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