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TehSpectre
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 Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: I think I figured out the entire poem. |
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| Quote: | Between the virgin and the beast
moses armed the evil priest,
To kill me with his sword of hate
if help again will come too late.
Warns Luke Eleven Seventeen
of dangers now and ever been.
The cost is not just mine to bear.
We win we live we die we share.
Revelation starts the first,
at dawn youll rise to do your worst.
This is not a game or show.
The stakes are high and you must know:
The pulse of the doe-eyed child may cease.
But cassie does not rest in peace.
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Ok time to work my magic. *Cracks fingers*
- Verse uno -
| Quote: | | Between the virgin and the beast. |
This will come down to Bree vs. Daniel.....or Daniel helping/saving Bree - OR we may have to save them both.
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moses armed the evil priest. |
Moses is a famous patriarch > Father figure being Bree's dad
Bree's Dad "gave" her to a cult OR she is being used to sacrifice Cassie.
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To kill me with his sword of hate |
Easily interpreted into - Sacrificing Bree and/or Cassie - Possibly the priest is being armed with Bree....as if to kill Cassie with her?!
| Quote: | | if help again will come too late. |
[b]This already happened to Cassie and we must hurry to save Bree!
- Verse deux -
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Warns Luke Eleven Seventeen |
"Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and a house divided against itself will fall. "
If Bree resists she may survive OR Bree and Daniel need to make up fast before it is too late.
| Quote: | | of dangers now and ever been. |
Once again Cassie is saying she was killed and the danger is upon another now. (Bree)
| Quote: | The cost is not just mine to bear-
We win we live we die we share |
This is a tough one. Cassie may not be dead, IE. they are being sacrificed together. They cannot do the sacrifice if Bree or Cassie is rescued - another idea is that they are the same person and their lives are entwined!
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Revelation starts the first, |
We are going to get the doozy of all clues the 1st of October and will be using it to save Cassie and/or Bree's life by the 12th!
| Quote: | | At dawn you'll rise to do your worst |
We had better start working at 12 AM the first of October - and FAST.
| Quote: | This is not a game or show -
The stakes are high and you must know. |
Their lives are on the line, quit playing around.
- Verse three -
| Quote: | The pulse of the doe-eyed child may cease.
But cassie does not rest in peace. |
Bree may yet be killed and...CASSIE ISN'T DEAD! (She may be a split personality!
Discuss.
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atomikbr
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| atomikbr wrote: | here it is my theory:
during the ceremony between bree and daniel there will be this priest handling a sword who will kille bree (or both) if we don't help them in time, just as (cassie?) was killed when help came too late. I know that we are sticking to the Moses version, but even that way it makes sense, imo.
*back to work* |
and maybe MOSES ARMED means just that it will be a religious sacrifice. |
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SharpDressedMan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| whisper wrote: | Maybe Bree should sleep with Daniel. Then she wouldn't be a virgin and they wouldn't sacrifice her.  |
Cue porno music. Sweet! |
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Anduviel
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| espions wrote: | | dlruss0216 wrote: | \
Could they be synonyms, i.e. Moses and Father? Was Moses a father? Sorry, religiously ignorant here.
EDIT - TecSpectre - I swear I typed this before reading your post...lol. You're just a faster typer |
I think he is generally revered as a figurative patriarch in that he lead the slaves out of egypt and was essentially the father figure for the whole horde of them. He was the one who served as the messenger when God handed down the 10 commandments, so in a figurate sense, Bree's father does have a parallel. He "always" does the bibliomancy so he's obviously revered in some respect amongst those who worship with them, and he's the primary authority in Bree's life, handing down the rules for the ceremony. Again this may be grasping at straws, but it does make sense to me. 10 years of Catholic Schooling has yet yet to prove useful for me, so who knows if this time it will.  |
Do you think, accroding to Moses symbolism as the father and the leader, that Bree's Dad is the leader of her cult thing...maybe...
Or not necessarily Bree's Dad, someone who's a leader in the cult is gonna sacrafice Bree? |
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TehSpectre
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1012
Go here, I believe I figured out the entire poem but didn't want it to get lost in the fast-paced thread this has become.
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| Quote: | | during the ceremony between bree and daniel |
But why would Daniel be at the ceremony? If her parents can't even go, why would Daniel go??
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espions
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Anduviel wrote: |
Do you think, accroding to Moses symbolism as the father and the leader, that Bree's Dad is the leader of her cult thing...maybe...
Or not necessarily Bree's Dad, someone who's a leader in the cult is gonna sacrafice Bree? |
I don't see him as a leader, because if he were he'd be included int he upcoming ceremony but she has been very consistent and firm in saying they won't be in attendance. I do think he's maybe a leader on a smaller scale though. The equivelent to a priest, he's regarded as an authority but he's not the freaking pope. |
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| Anduviel wrote: | ooo...
That leads me to think that Bree's Dad possibly wants to get rid of some of his sins through sacraficing her or something... Maybe he did something bad, or the cult pushed him to sacrafice Bree. |
I think Bree is supposed to represent the "perfect animal" hence the purity bond and reference to her in the poem as the "virgin". |
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baggage
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| Quote: | Moses is a famous patriarch > Father figure being Bree's dad
Bree's Dad "gave" her to a cult. |
But Bree's Dad does not know about the ceremony (she tells Daniel this in the driving video)
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Just because Cassie doesn't RIP doesn't mean she isn't dead. Someone can be dead and not resting in peace. If they are a troubled spirit.
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Anduviel
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Hm, pretty good^^ Agree with most of it.
Except for the part that cassie is not dead... where is she then? Captured or something?
It makes more sense if she is dead and 'does not rest in peace' until we save the next victim of the sacrafice - possibly Bree. |
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| espions wrote: | | dlruss0216 wrote: | \
Could they be synonyms, i.e. Moses and Father? Was Moses a father? Sorry, religiously ignorant here.
EDIT - TecSpectre - I swear I typed this before reading your post...lol. You're just a faster typer |
I think he is generally revered as a figurative patriarch in that he lead the slaves out of egypt and was essentially the father figure for the whole horde of them. He was the one who served as the messenger when God handed down the 10 commandments, so in a figurate sense, Bree's father does have a parallel. He "always" does the bibliomancy so he's obviously revered in some respect amongst those who worship with them, and he's the primary authority in Bree's life, handing down the rules for the ceremony. Again this may be grasping at straws, but it does make sense to me. 10 years of Catholic Schooling has yet yet to prove useful for me, so who knows if this time it will. |
To add to this...
Isn't it Moses that has a picture of him standing with the bible in his arm? And then Bree's father is the one who always "does the biblomacy" and therefore is always holding the bible.
Bottom line on my thought - I see strong connections to Moses and Bree's Dad. When Cassie speaks of Moses, she's speaking "figuratively" of Bree's Dad.
EDIT - And if this is true, then "Moses Armed" means Bree's father will be armed. He would be the one to sacrafice her, which I have a hard time believing. 
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I think Cassie is the virgin in stanza one and the beast is to throw us off. I don't believe she is talking about Daniel.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| baggage wrote: | | Quote: | Moses is a famous patriarch > Father figure being Bree's dad
Bree's Dad "gave" her to a cult. |
But Bree's Dad does not know about the ceremony (she tells Daniel this in the driving video)
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Just because Cassie doesn't RIP doesn't mean she isn't dead. Someone can be dead and not resting in peace. If they are a troubled spirit. |
She said he doesn't know what's going to happen, he obviously knows about it and is pushing her with her preparations. He's supplying her with "iron" pills . |
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TehSpectre
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Bree's dad may not know he is "throwing her to the lions", but the fact remains that he is doing it.
Cassie does not RIP means she is alive! It is a huge curveball to throw us late into the game and/or Bree and he are the same person and she will die with Bree if Bree is killed!
Anyone notice that Bree's video's have been very fast-to-comeout lately? It may be that Cassie has had no time to make her own videos because Bree is so busy with the ceremony....
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Anduviel
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| dlruss0216 wrote: |
To add to this...
Isn't it Moses that has a picture of him standing with the bible in his arm? And then Bree's father is the one who always "does the biblomacy" and therefore is always holding the bible.
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Exactly, more evidence to the connection between Bree's dad and Moses!
yay! |
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