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[Solve] Morse Poem Interpretation and Analysis - Part II
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martha
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he has the hots for her, wouldn't you be bummed/pissed off if a girl you wanted made plans and then canceled them because of something she has known about for a while?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thoughts on:
* October 1
* Cassie's need for attention
* the idea of Daniel disrupting the ceremony
* 103 years old
* "When I Get to the Bottom Where I Stop" -> "I See You Again"

http://www.dibonsmith.com/cas_con.htm
Transit Date of principal star:
1 October

"After promising her daughter in marriage to Perseus, Cassiopeia had second thoughts. She convinced one of Poseidon's sons, Agenor, to disrupt the ceremony by claiming Andromeda for himself. Agenor arrived with an entire army, and a fierce struggle ensued."

"because of Cassiopeia's vanity, he placed her in a chair which revolves around the Pole Star, so half the time she's obliged to sit upside down."



http://brianclever.smugmug.com/gallery/1799997/1/85464679

This is Messier 103, an open cluster in the Cassiopeia
constellation. It is located in the northernmost part of the
summer Milky Way.

.......

creates another question then, which may answer the apparent lack of Bree's mother ever appearing -- Is Cassie Bree's mother?


......
you guys are inspiring to watch with your deductive skills, so I thought I'd throw some thoughts in.

EDIT: "When I Get..... "
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bosquelito wrote:
creates another question then, which may answer the apparent lack of Bree's mother ever appearing -- Is Cassie Bree's mother?
EDIT: "When I Get..... "


Not likely since she knew her in highschool and walked around the track with her.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and she was in daniels class....

but..... CASSiopia.... isnt cass short for cassie? maybe her name isnt short for casandra...but simply cassie....

EDIT: short
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of an alusion to Cassandra, even if her name is just Cassie - it shows a lot of research in the character's name, since they are a lot alike...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point there about the "in highschool" together and such

Here's some more thoughts though. Sorry for the excessive amounts of links. and quotes.

Astronomy:
http://c3po.cochise.cc.az.us/astro/Junk%20Bond%20Observatory01.htm

"We are also continuing our search for Potentially Hazardous Asteroids (PHA's) as well as following up others' PHA discoveries in order to help refine their orbits. The most interesting result
yielded so far by our PHA search has been the discovery of the Hungaria-class asteroid 2005 LG15. Hungaria asteroids' orbits are sharply inclined to those of ordinary main belt asteroids, and often cannot be distinguished from PHA's at the time of their discovery. This ANIMATION shows 2005 LG15 (as well as three other main belt asteroids with normal orbital inclinations) passing in front of the Rho Ophiuchi dark nebula in the summer Milky Way near Antares."


Back on the Cassieopeia myth, and regarding the bag at the swimming hole:
Perseus used the Medusa's head, which he had to carry in a bag
http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_text_bullfinch_15.htm
http://www.dibonsmith.com/cep_con.htm
http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/ANDROMEDA.html

"She boasted that her daughter Andromeda and she herself were more beautiful than the Nereids"

"With his kingdom in the gravest danger, Cepheus consulted the oracle of Ammon for advice. The oracle predicted that Ethiopia would be freed from this scourge if Cassiopeia's daughter, Andromeda, were offered to the Monster as a sacrifice. The inhabitants of the country forced Andromeda's father, Cepheus, to agree to this [DCP]. Cepheus had to choose between saving his own flesh and blood or his people and as king he had no alternative. Heavy hearted and bitter over his wife's vanity, the king was forced by his people to comply. Andromeda was led to the water's edge where she was chained to a rock and left to the mercy of the monster. [NPS]."

"As soon as the monster crawled out of the water and lumbered towards the place where Andromeda was waiting in great fear with closed eyes, Perseus pulled Medusa's head out of the leather bag and dangled it in front of Cetus. The monster instantly changed into a great rock which, it is said, can still be seen on the Levantine shore of the Mediterranean Sea. Perseus quickly put the head back in the bag and freed Andromeda from her chains."


We were too late to save Andromeda, Cassiopia's daughter... Though the sacrifice to save the country (the LG15 storyline) succeeded.

i reach in that last bit, but it's interesting to consider how the creators kept the story going regardless of the offense to the regular YouTuber's
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

martha wrote:
But he has the hots for her, wouldn't you be bummed/pissed off if a girl you wanted made plans and then canceled them because of something she has known about for a while?


Yeah but if it were a religious occasion i would suck it up and shift my plans...the way he reacted is very...selfish and unloving...keep in mind that i's her religion. If it were Christmas, would you expect your boyfriend...and he doesn't hold that distinction... to understand that you have to spend that day/night with your family?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you have to say...seems more logical then all the religious things..... and the whole stargirl episode backs that up...plus lg15 comet thing....and cassiopia.... i like your theory...im intrigued.... can you find more to fit the story?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

has it been confirmed yet that thats actually her religion? or are we just assuming?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cu_Roi wrote:
Yeah but if it were a religious occasion i would suck it up and shift my plans...the way he reacted is very...selfish and unloving...keep in mind that i's her religion. If it were Christmas, would you expect your boyfriend...and he doesn't hold that distinction... to understand that you have to spend that day/night with your family?


Daniel seems to be taking a creepy road..... not being undestanding, wanting Bree to choose between him and, basicaly, her family, and now with his stalkerish video....

I used to think he was harmless, but maybe he is turning into the "baddie".
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

romanceismusic wrote:
has it been confirmed yet that thats actually her religion? or are we just assuming?


What? Thelema? Yeah...but it shouldn't matter...if she's jewish then the passover is a holy thing, to be shared with family...like the equiox in some religions.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=832&start=0&sid=ee575f44b6236fd5bc286a1c0d1241f6
toadlguy wrote:
Have you guys seen this?

http://www.mazzaroth.com/ChapterOne/DrawingZodiacOfDenderah.htm

Of note:

"It is interesting to note that in the Denderah Zodiac, Cassiopeia is called Set " Now to click on Set you need to BUY acess, but anyway...

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Ok, so there's something I ran across earlier, wish I'd made a note where I stumbled out to reading about it in the Intertron, but...
Basically, Horus and Set are the sons of Osiris and Isis

There is a festival to celebrate the dividing of the black and red lands to Horus and Set, respectively.
In the Gregorian (Christian) calendar, this date is October 12th.

One of the mystic groups Crowley was associated with (not sure which group it was without looking at the moment) honored the Egyptian gods, especially these four.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

before we translated the poem..... the jumble of words referred to "death mask" or whatever... when i looked that up...it kept giving me links to stuff on ancient egypt..... i pointed this out already...but dont wanna look for it... i think there are clues not only in the poem...but in the origional morse message itself.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vertigo wrote:
I like the idea of an alusion to Cassandra, even if her name is just Cassie - it shows a lot of research in the character's name, since they are a lot alike...


It does show reseach, but it's been done a thousand times over...and I try not to the kind of guy that nitpicks over that kind of thing.

Cassiopea(sp) in the Dendera zodiac represents confusion...the god Set...but Set as a different god than Set he killer of Osiris...it's a very old reference and probably doesn't apply to this.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Serapis was a combo of gods, including Osiris.

curriguy --- he's the one that got me to focus on Serapis again after reading a recent posting of his, and I stumbled out to figure more. From one of his links, or chasing that line of thought from his post at least.
(possibly in the religions thread, sorry)

another crosspost on my train of thought I just found --
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7318&sid=e9a6d40ffecdc7058281397cbc751c19

Anyway, that solidifying of the transition of Osiris and Serapis occurred during the Greek Ptolemic period.
Who btw, was a Greek philosopher and ASTRONOMER.
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