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Theonlyavalon
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I remember in another tread there was discussion of Bree having a split personality. Wouldn't this be something that could manifest itself at puberty? I'm not sure how you would be able to predict this at birth, but it could be what the Order is looking for later in life. People had researched that idea a lot and I was half way believing it. Puberty and the teenage years are very stressful, all the hormonal changes and with those injections the Order could have been trying to enduce a personality split within Bree
I think it would be a great twist if Bree was Cassie too, that's why Daniel didn't remember her, why Bree took the blame for the phone calls. She said that she and Cassie used to walk around the football field or something, didn't she? That's just as easily something she could have done by herself, with "Cassie" being a split personality.
Just a thought.
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spaciegirlreturn
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| trainer101 wrote: | I'm glad someone has revived this theory. The whole lazy eye/split brain theory died a couple of months ago when all the action started but it makes perfect sense.
I still think is possible she was:
Biologically Reproduced by Embryonic Engineering.
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 I admire your tenacity, sir.
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kayokosaeki
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| AM wrote: | I think those who think her suitableness for the ceremony has to do with her lack of interest in sex are right on the mark.
Contrast Bree with Gemma who was getting crushes on boys at a very young age. You can see why Bree would be suitable for the ceremony and not Gemma.
Allowing Daniel to spend all that time in Bree's room with the door closed was part of the test to see if she was suitable for the ceremony. Remember, OPAPHID had cameras in Bree and Daniel's room the whole time. They would know if there was any flirting or sex going on at least in the bedrooms. They were able to observe the dynamic between the two. It was one way that they were able to determine that Bree was the one for the ceremony. That was one reason why her sneaking out so upset her dad. It took her out of the petri dish where OP could observe her.
When she sneaks out the objection isn't "We were worried about you. We need to know where you are at all times. Anything could have happened." It's "You have violated your purity bond". Thus possibly making her unsuitable for the ceremony. |
not exactly.....
bree's parents let them out of her room to go hiking and swimming. when she snuck out, she was sneaking out to see people other than daniel (the party, bowling)...they were pissed cause these people didn't subscribe to their way of thinking. daniel's already been exposed to their way of thinking because he's taped their religious summer camp plays. he's been let into the world of the order, more so than any other layman in their family's lives. he's more special than we know.
characteristics: i don't think it has much to do with eyes. unless the order was looking for problems instead of perfection. she had the lazy eye from three months to four years old. then they fixed it.
i think it has to do with intelligence. you can tell from how fast a baby is developing if they'll have the genes and potential for a good IQ or not. she was probably walking and talking earlier than anyone else. then puberty hits and development of intelligence seems to rely more on the person's determination to exercise the mind rather than just on genetics. if you don't use it, you lose it. she used it. she questioned science.
plus, all the sexual attitudes that come with puberty have a role in this too. bree certainly doesn't seem to have the typical sexuality of a 16 year old. at 16 if i were in a house all alone with two hot boys and no rules, whoa nelly.....  bree's lack of interest in sex has made her a chosen one. |
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Luv2Skydive
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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If Bree had cameras in her room, chances are "watchers" were with her EVERYWHERE she went, so they saw everything she did.
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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The lack of sexuality thing doesn't make sense to me.
Just because she doesn't say out loud "I am thinking about sex" or "Daniel, you're hott, let's make love" doesn't mean she doesn't have any interest in the subject. How would the Order be so certain just by watching her that she is uninterested in sex? I just think it has to be physical or genetic, not just personality.
Also, why would they care if she is interested in sex? It appears this whole thing involves baby-breeding, or something of the sort. You can't breed a "lack of sexuality" into people. You can't determine someone's sexuality by watching them, and you can't determine it biologically or genetically either. That's the only problem I have with that theory. It has to be something more measurable, if you ask me.
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kayokosaeki
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote: | The lack of sexuality thing doesn't make sense to me.
Just because she doesn't say out loud "I am thinking about sex" or "Daniel, you're hott, let's make love" doesn't mean she doesn't have any interest in the subject. How would the Order be so certain just by watching her that she is uninterested in sex? I just think it has to be physical or genetic, not just personality.
Also, why would they care if she is interested in sex? It appears this whole thing involves baby-breeding, or something of the sort. You can't breed a "lack of sexuality" into people. You can't determine someone's sexuality by watching them, and you can't determine it biologically or genetically either. That's the only problem I have with that theory. It has to be something more measurable, if you ask me. |
her mother wants her to be pure. i'm sure that means pure in thought as well as action. an attitude that's lacking strong sexuality makes it more likely that she is pure in thought. |
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On the subject of the whole split personality thing, here's a quote from an article I'm reading about the Illuminati and mind control.
| Quote: | | The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers. |
May also explain the P. Monkey issues? Yes? No? Maybe? |
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| CriticalThinking wrote: | On the subject of the whole split personality thing, here's a quote from an article I'm reading about the Illuminati and mind control.
| Quote: | | The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers. |
May also explain the P. Monkey issues? Yes? No? Maybe? |
 Poor Bree!
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kayokosaeki
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| CriticalThinking wrote: | On the subject of the whole split personality thing, here's a quote from an article I'm reading about the Illuminati and mind control.
| Quote: | | The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers. |
May also explain the P. Monkey issues? Yes? No? Maybe? |
oh my my. scary sh*t.
everything keeps pointing to illuminati.....hmm.... |
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Forgotten Purity
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Bree seems to "shut down" a lot. Perhaps this is her unknown way of keeping that extra persona locked up...
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| Forgotten Purity wrote: | | Bree seems to "shut down" a lot. Perhaps this is her unknown way of keeping that extra persona locked up... |
I completely agree with you. What she really needs is for someone to grab her by the arms and refuse to let go until she starts screaming. A good scenery-chewing episode would do her a world of good.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Forgotten Purity wrote: | Another Characteristic: An Outcasting Abnormality.
Having something that would outcast you from society might be important and is definitely most prominent and obvious by puberty. Bree's lazy eye could've outcasted her, but it was fixed. Could Cassie have started the rumor that she'd been screwing with the teacher to keep her in the Order? Maybe Cassie wanted companionship in the Order and realized that she was beginning to lack this characteristic once Bree had stopped acting smart. |
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CriticalThinking
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Eh.. I don't know. I guess it could work, but I don't think that it would be that.. It would have to be something preexisting or physical. Like, maybe she has a personality disorder that makes her a bit antisocial?
I really don't think that could be it, because that's not really Bree, and why would they want them for that? |
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Kanazaka
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I've posted a theory in the "Hiding in the Bathroom" thread, but here's some more ideas on Characteristics:
* Gene expression triggered by estrogen and other female hormones
* Phenotypal indicators that occur at puberty (eyes?, lips?, hips?, however unlikely, breasts?)
* Menstruation schedules or timing, perhaps related to the Denderah zodiac
* Specific changes in neurophysiology during puberty
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AM
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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See, I do tend to think it's a personality trait type of thing. Very intelligent and yet very gung ho about the religion coupled with a disinterest in sex or boyfriends would make her ideal for the ceremony. You'd have to be intelligent to learn a new language that fast and very into the religion to want to go through with this and bother to do all the studying. The mention of a 'Purity bond' makes me think that being a virgin is also somehow important too. All these things can't be determined until adolescence because, as we all know from personal experience, many girls seem obedient and cooperative until puberty hits and then it's a whole different story.
I also don't think her name stands for anything. They didn't know they would choose her until she became of age and I doubt they named thousands of girls all sorts of code names.
The fact that her parents would not be present at the ceremony coupled with the fact that they were drugging her makes me think that she would come to some harm during the ceremony. I keep thinking about The Da Vincci Code and wondering if the ceremony could involve some sort of sex act or impregnation as others have said. Either that or some sort of blood sacrifice
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