Lonelygirl15

soma · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject:

This thread is for the discussion of disinformation trolls. Your predictable attempts to change the subject (a subject that many people here want to know about) are transparent.

So you don't want to talk about Charles Manson and therefore all banning of the topic is OK, no one is being censored because you are being censored? Well, the white Aryans under the Third Reich said the same thing - everything here is free and open. No one is being repressed. All views are acceptable. No open discussion is being shut down. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship.

The facts are:

1. Charles Manson attended OTO lodges and was seriously influenced by his experience with Thelema - this experience directly inspired his mass murders.

2. All of the LG15 filming is being done in the same area that the Manson murders took place.

And yet, Cassie making an entire video dedicated to Manson that even shows crime scene photos taken right in that lg15 area, and that uses the actual spoken words "Charles Manson" has 'nothing' to do with Charles Manson?

The only people you are fooling are those who have already chosen to close their eyes.

Cassie's first clue was gamejacked. Her second clue was Manson. And we have hundreds and hundreds of posts in this forum with zero content, talking about stuff that Cassie has said is not related to anything - like Tarot cards and the gamejacker planted Tarot card box.

bosquelito · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 328

I have and do enjoy twjaniak's comments, involvement, videos, enthusiasm and assistance through modding.

I've seen ravensgrace around here before I noticed or saw him/her modding.

They've both been informative and helpful, fun and interesting.

But....

twjaniak's increased involvement in contributing to the direction of the game places him in a certain position that makes one question his ability to maintain objectivity. Not saying he is not capable, but in all honesty, it does raise the question.

ravensgrace, soma has a valid point. I don't think it wise to dwell on the subject matter of Manson too much, as there are the dangerous elements that might arise. Very dangerous elements, amonst the lurkers who might stir up problems to the dangers of dead-drop chasers, both caused by them or resulting from a false lead from Cassie or an offshoot outside of the game.
Let's just say it -- the internet is not always a safe place. Here we face the risks of real-world involvement that could lead to danger. It's no doubt there are some of these people here, drawn by the dark scenes, etc. predators and deviants drawn in by LG15 in the first place.

So... again... now that there are fingers pointed, and concerns raised.... how do we distinguish trollers? I know who I trust on here, if only for my own amusement being that it's a game. But really, how to know who's giving in for the group or who's for misdirection or their own amusement?
I understand you mods are overall trying to make things safe, and help out when you can... but the question is being posed.

Sfonzarelli · Devoted Fan Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580

Soma, I'd be more inclined to side with you if you didn't invoke a regime that killed about 200 million people to the moderation policies of a message board.

I absolutely agree with you. The "slide" argument is weak - especially for anyone who's a Beatles aficianado or a Manson aficianado. (I am both) HyeMew said he had no problem with us discussing Manson. I think it will be fairly obvious when a line in our discussion has been crossed.

I appreciate the job the moderators are doing but I do feel as though an atmosphere more conducive to exploring every possible lead could be created. There does seem to be a "MySpace is herecy"/"Manson is herecy"/"[random opinion about clue] is herecy" attitude.

soma · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

Sfonzarelli · Devoted Fan Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580

juliangrimm · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:05 am Post subject:

I have to agree with the dissenters here. This is becoming outragous and there are not enough eyeroll emoticons for the thin arguments posted. I used to post here alot but the way things are getting I prefer the other CiW forum especially on the signal to noise ratio.

I think the manson ban is silly and uneeded just as the fear someone will show up at the house.

soma · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

Sfonzarelli · Devoted Fan Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580

soma · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:14 am Post subject:

bosquelito · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 328

juliangrimm · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:18 am Post subject:

ravensgrace · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:19 am Post subject:

Sfonzarelli · Devoted Fan Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580