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quizzoc Casual Observer
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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On a side note, I don't think we need to be concerned about the similarities between the bowling alley in Jonas' video, and the one we are looking for. IMO they will be different, because the LG15 series is based in socal, and the arg is based in norcal, for the most part. I really don't think the creators are actually filming in lakeside or ukiah. Sorry for the tinag boundary crossing, but if this makes it easier....
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Nieriel.Manwathiel Owen's Helper

Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 1504 Location: Somewhere between here and there
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imagin wrote: | Fairly even-sided triangle:
Odd-shaped triangle:
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:bows to one of the new Lords of Logic:
edit - wow those pics r big _________________ A watching_watchers-certified POST WHORE!
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Killthesmiley The Order of Denderah

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4732 Location: Halifax NS Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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OMG i wouldn't have done that!
Great work Imagin!!! _________________ kelly
YOU: Who does that KTS think she is? Total bitch!
ME: I think I'm you, only better.
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Kasdeja wrote: | Cabby wrote: | missviolet wrote: | Cells generally don't come in out at Dillon Beach -- at least the Sprint and Verizon ones didn't last year when we were there. So I'd say that no, there's no towers nearby, most likely. (Or weren't. It could have changed now with the ubiquitous nature of cellular phones.) |
I used to work for sprint/nextel. Just checked the coverage map and there is supposedly "clear voice and data" coverage for zip code 90023 (Dillon Beach) |
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Coverage is not the same as the presence of a tower.
There is no FCC registered tower within at least 20 miles that I could find. |
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Killthesmiley The Order of Denderah

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4732 Location: Halifax NS Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Oh...and for those who cannot tackle a simple "grown-up" task without having their hand held...I have a ball, perhaps you'd like to bounce it? |
she doesn't want us to ask for confirmation
she wants us to do it on our own with no help. She wants us to prove to her that we're smart enough to do these puzzles on our own and to have the confidence to know we're right. Because until now, she's been very willing to help us and confirm things...right now, she's not.
edit: that quote is from her profile _________________ kelly
YOU: Who does that KTS think she is? Total bitch!
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Kasdeja Hymn of One

Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 7754 Location: Back...and to the left.
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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bethy wrote: | Kasdeja wrote: | Cabby wrote: | missviolet wrote: | Cells generally don't come in out at Dillon Beach -- at least the Sprint and Verizon ones didn't last year when we were there. So I'd say that no, there's no towers nearby, most likely. (Or weren't. It could have changed now with the ubiquitous nature of cellular phones.) |
I used to work for sprint/nextel. Just checked the coverage map and there is supposedly "clear voice and data" coverage for zip code 90023 (Dillon Beach) |
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Coverage is not the same as the presence of a tower.
There is no FCC registered tower within at least 20 miles that I could find. |
Ahhh, o.k. o.k. IF people are to check for those, a night drive would probably make that easier. _________________
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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quizzoc wrote: | On a side note, I don't think we need to be concerned about the similarities between the bowling alley in Jonas' video, and the one we are looking for. IMO they will be different, because the LG15 series is based in socal, and the arg is based in norcal, for the most part. I really don't think the creators are actually filming in lakeside or ukiah. Sorry for the tinag boundary crossing, but if this makes it easier.... |
That's what I keep saying, too...but because the series is filmed in southern cal. Jonas' house, we know, is quite a distance from Los Angeles. It's filmed in LA, that doesn't mean it's set there. Visual clues from the LG15 videos aren't going to be one ounce of help to the ARG in this case. That's what makes this ARG more confusing because it's a bit convuluded. |
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sweetie55 Enthusiastic Fan

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Killthesmiley wrote: | Quote: | Oh...and for those who cannot tackle a simple "grown-up" task without having their hand held...I have a ball, perhaps you'd like to bounce it? |
she doesn't want us to ask for confirmation
she wants us to do it on our own with no help. She wants us to prove to her that we're smart enough to do these puzzles on our own and to have the confidence to know we're right. Because until now, she's been very willing to help us and confirm things...right now, she's not.
edit: that quote is from her profile |
She thinks highly of some of you! Awesome. I for one, would like the ball now.  |
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Ahhh, o.k. o.k. IF people are to check for those, a night drive would probably make that easier. |
Why drive at all? You can look it up online:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/antenna/index.htm?job=uls_transaction&page=weekly
Now these are are not ALL of them. Some sturctures aren't required to be registered with the FCC, but most are. |
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Ruberic Enthusiastic Fan
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Imagin:
First, am I the only one that got all hot and bothered by the fact that Imagin so diligently put those pictures together, and coordinated the triangulation! DANG!
Lakeside, from your map, seems to be the indicated alley. By and far, this is the BEST support we have other than "HEY, that one is near a tiny town...and this one is closed...and I like this one's name". Oppy wants us to use our heads to figure it out...and I think Imagin nailed Oppy's hint on the head. _________________ Order in your life is meant to build strength and confidence. Without the order, there is chaos. The order, in life, is necessary. |
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Loki Lonely Fan
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 143 Location: Right behind you...
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Although I'm not completely convinced that that's how the triangulation is supposed to be done, I think Imagin does have the best theory out there right now.
One thing has been bothering me though. Daniel said in his video that he thought he lost his ID at the bowling alley... but what if he didn't? If he didn't actually lose it at the alley then we'd have nothing to confirm that we got the right place...
Just a thought. _________________ A trickster god with a modern twist.
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imagin Casual Observer

Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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The only pic I can find online of Lakeside Lakes... pic is very old. Doesn't confirm anything, but doesn't rule anything out, either. The building is similar (though definitely from a different viewpoint) to the building in the Truth or Dare vid.
PIC REMOVED - It was wrong place, same name. _________________ imagin
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imagin Casual Observer

Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, yes. Almost forgot. In Op's recent message to Ziola, she said she was looking for the bowling alley nearest a "certain unknown location", and that the unknown location was what the triangulation was directed at.
Which makes the fact that the points do not land exactly on a bowling alley make a great deal more sense, at least to me. _________________ imagin
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I like Imagin's work...and I htink it's the right direction, but in looking up how cell phone triangulation is done...I'm not sure it's quite right.
See: http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci753924,00.html
Quote: | the distance to the cell phone is determined by measuring the relative time delays in the signal from the phone set to three different base stations |
So, we need three circles...and they may not be the same size. Plus...signals may be all screwed out there (which is what Oppy was hinting at).
I've got an idea I'm going to play with...but I'll pop back in later with it when I can illustrate it better. I'm at work and I actually have to do a few things since the boss is her office (which is rare). |
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Akiana Casual Observer

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