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Kasdeja
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Sigh. I took nothing personally, it was your indigestion comment that seemed to assume I did. It's text.
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ZeroOrigin
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The indigestion comment was simply humor. |
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Kasdeja
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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O.K.
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PinkoLady
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ZeroOrigin wrote: |
As for blowing up buildings and killing people... Well... If you have no problem with the idea of blowing up the building, wouldn't that have killed Gemma? Why the ellaborate setup? Killing isn't hard. Gemma has displayed being alone on many occasions. Brother and Tachyon have displayed the ability to spy on Gemma while she was alone repeatedly. So again, why the setup? |
Hmm, maybe you don't know what I'm referring to--- but Gemma basically tried to kill Brother, Tachyon managed to get him out of there in time, blew up Brother's building and planted a dead body there so that Gemma/Op would think he was dead.
I suppose it's not impossible that they kidnapped her rather than killed her, but I don't think Gemma's quite the pawn you think she is.
Then there's also the "RIP Gemma" thing in "The ends justify the means." |
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raindown
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Ziola wrote: | | See, if anyone would have issues terminating Gemma, it would be Brother. He was in some sort of a relationship/romantic entanglement with her that he continued after he found out she was involved in the Order. I think that he didn't kill her, but kidnapped her and is keeping her as his personal sex slave. |
*pauses to think*
Wasn't Brother this guy Gemma once talked about?
Said she had a crush on?
Having Gemma as a sex slave. Brother must be amazingly happy 
*pauses*
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Sami
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That guy Gemma was talking about named Sam? I yhink Gemma knew Brother as Sebastian
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raindown
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Sami wrote: | | That guy Gemma was talking about named Sam? I yhink Gemma knew Brother as Sebastian |
I wouldn't know.
haven't been following close enough 
just asking.
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Christie91
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Tachy and/or Brother must have something really bad against Gemma to kill her :/
I mean, they could have killed Lucy or someone if it was just because they where involved with the Order, but they chose to get Gemma.
They must either be holding a REALLY big grudge against her or she must be a REALLY big threat. |
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PinkoLady
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Gemma wrote Bro an email apologizing for her behavior earlier, saying she couldn't contain her feelings for him, etc.
Then Tach's email to Bro implied that their position had been compromised by Gemma because he "let her get too close," and what have you.
Sex slave... eech, I hope not. |
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Christie91
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| PinkoLady wrote: | Gemma wrote Bro an email apologizing for her behavior earlier, saying she couldn't contain her feelings for him, etc.
Then Tach's email to Bro implied that their position had been compromised by Gemma because he "let her get too close," and what have you.
Sex slave... eech, I hope not. |
Ahhh right  I read the email from Gemma to Bro but not the one from Tachy to Bro. That proves to me what its all about now
Nice one 
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| ZeroOrigin wrote: | | That Gemma was killed is still speculation. It will most likely always be speculation unless someone wants to confess to murder. |
I think OpAphid wishing her well in the afterlife ("RIP Gemma") is confirmation enough. Obviously Brother would know if he fired, so no one would be fooled about whether she was alive (and if she is, certainly no one's taken advantage of the fact). The only possibility I can think of relating to him not killing her is that OpAphid thinks he did when he's just keeping her for a sex slave like Ziola said.
Anyway, with Gemma's actress leaving the series, it's even more likely Gemma's been iced.
| ZeroOrigin wrote: | | Where as I don't think Brother would have issues with terminating Gemma, I do think Tachyon would. After all, more than bullets can be fired from a weapon and a live source of information is better than a dead doorstop. |
Tachyon was the one who suggested they kill her. She's also the one who set up the surveilance and left the weapon for Brother to use to do it.
| ZeroOrigin wrote: | | Gemma allowed herself to be used by the order. That confirms in my mind that she isn't the sharpest knife. |
That's like suggesting that Lucy allowed herself to be used. Clearly these people are not being tricked into doing anything. They're malevolent. Gemma tried to kill Brother after all. She led Warpylol to his safehouse to blow it up.
| ZeroOrigin wrote: | | Gemma being a threat at all to me is that she was a 'double agent' placed to feed Bree misinformation and to try and influence her decisions in favor of the Order. Once her cover was blown by Brother and Tachyon, that threat was neutralized. With all due respect, the biggest threat she offers now is 'pouty facing' someone into submission. |
She wasn't killed because she was a threat, but because Tachyon and Brother were pissed off at her.
| PinkoLady wrote: | | Hmm, maybe you don't know what I'm referring to--- but Gemma basically tried to kill Brother, Tachyon managed to get him out of there in time, blew up Brother's building and planted a dead body there so that Gemma/Op would think he was dead. |
That's not quite what happened. Gemma led Warpylol to the safehouse to blow it up. Tachyon and others in the Culper Ring figured out what was going on and got Brother out before it blew. They then planted a body in the rubble to trick the Ipod Opera goons into thinking they got him.
| Christie91 wrote: | Tachy and/or Brother must have something really bad against Gemma to kill her :/
I mean, they could have killed Lucy or someone if it was just because they where involved with the Order, but they chose to get Gemma.
They must either be holding a REALLY big grudge against her or she must be a REALLY big threat. |
It was a grudge because of her almost getting Brother killed. |
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PinkoLady
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| PinkoLady wrote: | | Hmm, maybe you don't know what I'm referring to--- but Gemma basically tried to kill Brother, Tachyon managed to get him out of there in time, blew up Brother's building and planted a dead body there so that Gemma/Op would think he was dead. |
That's not quite what happened. Gemma led Warpylol to the safehouse to blow it up. Tachyon and others in the Culper Ring figured out what was going on and got Brother out before it blew. They then planted a body in the rubble to trick the Ipod Opera goons into thinking they got him.
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Eh, close enough-- I read all that stuff a while ago, so who exactly blew up the house slipped my mind. Either way, Gemma tried to kill Brother, and planting a corpse is still nasty work. My point was just the Gemma caused enough trouble to be killed. |
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Lurker
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| PinkoLady wrote: | | Eh, close enough-- I read all that stuff a while ago, so who exactly blew up the house slipped my mind. Either way, Gemma tried to kill Brother, and planting a corpse is still nasty work. My point was just the Gemma caused enough trouble to be killed. |
Ah, I see. Well your overall point was totally on the mark. |
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