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pupok · Suspiciously Absent Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 5

Not really any clues, the page is just a bunch of drawings/etchings of people being tortured. The only text is to say the artist and title of each work. Mostly they're all pictures of people hanging with weights on their feet.

It might help to read more about this Jan Luyken person, apparently they did a lot of religious torture imagery. I've only looked at one article so far:

http://www.bethelks.edu/mennonitelife/2003Sept/juhnke.php

pupok · Suspiciously Absent Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 5

I found a better picture. It's from a book called The Martyrs Mirror by Jan Luyken, about the torture of early Christians for their faith. I found a post about the book here:

http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2005/10/luyken-and-martyrs-mirror.html

Which linked to a site where the pictures could be found. This picture is from Book 2, page 605 and is called "Torture of Geleijn Cornelus, Breda, 1572 (Eeghen 746)"

Here it is:

Maybe there is a clue in this Geleijn Cornelus person. I want to know who those guys are playing poker in the corner while this poor person is hanging there. I have to go to work now though!

skingraph666 · Casual Observer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 69

why are all the comments on that link posted 10/12/05??????

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Sungkoo · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject:

whoa
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skingraph666 · Casual Observer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 69

thats what we said

leocass86 · Lonely Fan Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 139

I don't imagine it to be very significant. Do you?
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skingraph666 · Casual Observer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 69

one of the commentators has a page to bibliomancy...i beliave...it might be biliotech tho i dunno

Jana4 · Casual Observer Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 106

Wow pupok, I'm impressed. I searched for a couple hours this morning looking for that picture.

charliebrown · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:

Can some1 catch me up?

charliebrown · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject:

OK found this dont know if posted yet but this might be the picture THANK YOU WATCHING CASSIE

[url] http://canyouhearher.blogspot.com/ [/url]

space girl lost · Casual Observer Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 43

http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1371

yes. it was found.

graverubber · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:

this is so weird. i downloaded this exact torture picture from the mennanite site on friday for some antiwar posters i've been putting together. i only recognised it once i could see the guys playing cards.
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curriguy · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 397

so Cassie provided us with an upside down picture of Geleijn Cornelus's feet.

so who exactly IS Geleijn Cornelus? (also spelled Geleyn)

he was an early Christian martyr...of some sort.

In 1572, a group of exiles were living in a town called Nieuwvaert, practicing a type of early radical Christianity...which was then forbidden.

The dominant Catholic Church found these things wrong with their practices:
1. they didn't baptize their children
2. they didn't believe that Christ "had His flesh and blood from Mary"
3. they regarded themselves as the "flock and elect of god"

I'm not sure what breed of Christianity they were following, but let's continue with the story.
(edit: they were Anabaptists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptist )
NOW back to the story...

When the local Baliff found out about their "evil-ways," he got pissed...and, thus, sent his men down to Nieuwvaert armed with pistols, swords, and other weapons.

The men found the exiles in a house "engaged in preaching." Most of the exiles got away, but six were apprehended. One of them was Genelyn Corneliss, a 16 year old shoemaker and apprentice to the tailor that owned the house.

they were shackled up from August 5th to August 7th. If they relinquished their faith, they would have been awarded with immediate death by sword. Geleyn didn't, and, thus, he suffered through torture.

he was:
1. stripped naked
2. hung by his right thumb
3. weight attached to his left foot
4. burned under his arm with a candle

the story goes that Genelyn didn't seem to experience pain, just sorta entered a "deep slumber."

Eventually the torturers were annoyed by this, so they set him on fire. and he died.

source:
http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/martyrs134.htm