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Nieriel.Manwathiel · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

"what does this mean?"
"what does that mean?"
"why this number??"
"skulls??"
"CHEESECAKE!"

......what if we're just a helluvalot smarter than the Creators and solved what was to be solved faster than intended? we're given 5 books out of a 70-year-old series, and then we're supposed to try a random password out of the millions of words from both the series and the books...

and we still crack it in about 2 days or so.

what if there's nothing else yet? not just beating a dead horse with the images, but with the text, too?

i'd say it's reasonable that, for now, we know where the symbol is derived from and its rough interpretation.
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Ruberic · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 267

In many ancient religions (including judaica) numbers have specific significance. 7 is often used to refer to as perfection, 6 as one less than perfection. 3 is considered complete or holy perfection (thus 777 would be perfectly perfect, 666 is perfectly imperfect...etc).

It seems to me that the order refers to things in terms of ancient religion. If we do enough investigation, we should easily be able to figure out significance to the number 8 and 12.

In my theological studies....I do recall the number 12 as a reference. However, it has been a long time since I have delved into numerological studies of ancient religions.

May be time to dust off my old texts.

ALSO...remember the term semiotics refers to the use of sybols as pertaining meaning. Each symbol that is used, when combined differently, have different meanings. Ancient egyptian texts (heirogliphs) use images in specific orders or combinations to indicate different things. It depends on its order, position, and combination.

If you understand what each seperate symbol means (not just the name, but the meaning of the name and its pertanant usage) you can truly determine what they indicate by their position in the new symbol.

That is, it was possible to create new words for things that did not exist by combining existing symbols in new ways. If you knew the original use, you could easily determine the use in the new term.

Time for me to dust off my references on ancient texts as well.

Too the library!

-Ruberic
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tiltingwindward · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:

I can add a little bit about the numbers. 12 is what is known as a "magic" number, that is, a number which historically has great significance in many cultures. Ruberic touched on this a bit, so I'm just going to follow up from there. Along with 3, 7, and 9, 12 is a number that appears frequently in religion, mysticism, and folklore (three wishes, seven dwarves, nine crows, twelve dancing princesses, etc.), and it frequently appears in connection with an important plot element, such as the number of adversaries, or as a feature of a test the hero must pass in order to continue.

8, on the other hand, is not a magic number. To my knowledge, it has little to no mystical/religious/folk significance at all, which makes it very intriguing. Obviously, Tachyon finds it intriguing as well. Rereading the hexed note (Semantikos--and this word should tell us something as well), I'm inclined to believe that Tachyon isn't entirely sure about why 8 is showing up. She seems to be pretty confident that she's found a pattern with 12 (and I think we're right on her tracks on this one), but the 8 seems to be puzzling her as well as us.
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McPackage · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

klgglk · Suspiciously Absent Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 13

the ceremony was originally scheduled for the 12th, that seems like the first 12.

also, maybe not so important, but Bree's family moved to England when she was 12.

McPackage · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject:

By the way, wikipedia has lots of info regarding the significance of specific numbers:

8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_%28number%29
11: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_%28number%29
12: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_%28number%29
15: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_%28number%29
16: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_%28number%29
18: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18_%28number%29
19: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19_%28number%29

KrystalRayne · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject:

McPackage · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject:

Also, 8 turned 90 degrees is, of course, the symbol for infinity, which we saw on the boxes in Daniel's "Breaking And Entering" video:

PixieSailor · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject:

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