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0145 - Proving Bree Wrong - [3/4/07]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

janesalteredstates wrote:
It was all just to get us doing exactly what we're doing.
Confused


Of course that is what they are doing... They throw trial balloons, red (pink) herrings, and plot points out like crazy and wait to see what the reactions are before moving the story forward. It's a little (well, more than a little at times) maddening at times but part of the whole "vision" for the interactive nature of the project... Been going on since the first sighting of Crowley on the wall and documented in several creator interviews.

It's your choice how to react to this technique...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to kick myself, in db's vid I thought I saw a light, and thought to myself, wouldn't it be funny if Jonas is just behind him in the bushes, but then I thought I was reading far too much into it. I wish I posted it now.

*kicks self*
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

curiousGeorge wrote:


It's your choice how to react to this technique...


I know, but sometimes I make bad choices. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

janesalteredstates wrote:
curiousGeorge wrote:


It's your choice how to react to this technique...


I know, but sometimes I make bad choices. Razz


Oh dear.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe Jonas' parents were good, somehow fighting against the order, or maybe they were both deeply involved as spies or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mellie3204 wrote:
Gidget wrote:
Well Jonas has gotta be in with daniel is he was able to upload the video right???


The vid's description is
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"I decided to take matters in my own hands. This actually happened the other day, but it's been chaos here and I only had a chance to upload it now."


Ambiguous, could be from any of them.

But I'm going with yeah, Jonas has made up, or they found something bigger than their doubts about each other...



So what if The vid description quote was written by Daniel, and by I'm taking things into my own hands he means, he's teamed up with Jonas behind Bree's back to prove Bree wrong.

He's been on Jonas's side the whole time saying he thinks Bree is crazy. So he hides Jonas in the house and lets him snoop around when Bree's asleep/not looking.

He posts the video ambiguosly so when Bree see's it she thinks Jonas got away, that would also explain why he posted his first and then Jonas's days later and cut the ending off. So it ooks like Jonas did it when he got the time after he got away.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So in your scenario Jonas left the camera behind?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe Daniel didn't catch him. He was in a closet, so if he was really quiet, maybe Beast didn't find him. He could've been hiding in there the last few days and posted as soon as he could get to the computer without being caught.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, JONAS -- make enough racket getting in there!?!?!?!?

ROFLMAO

Ohhhh, how I do LOVE this video!

Bravo!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe jonas said "okay you two. i've had just about enough of your 'bonnie n clyde' crap! ...i'm freezing my tits off...now getoutta my house!"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, wow. They don't even have a transcript yet. (Can someone make one?)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kisselle wrote:
Hey, JONAS -- make enough racket getting in there!?!?!?!?


Totally. And Daniel too. Galloping up the stairs yelling "Hey Jonas. Jonas. JONAS!" Way to keep Bree from waking up, dude -- assuming you're really on Jonas's side.

Biglancer01 wrote:
So what if The vid description quote was written by Daniel, and by I'm taking things into my own hands he means, he's teamed up with Jonas behind Bree's back to prove Bree wrong.


I don't think so. The vid descriptions haven't usually jerked us around in that way -- they've been pretty clear about who's posted. I think that this was posted by Jonas and that either they haven't caught him, or he's caught them, or the three of them have come to some kind of standoff.

Anyhoo. That purple thing sure as hell does look like P.Monkey. Wouldn't it be wild if it turns out that the Order gives all their young kids P.Monkeys -- that have microphones in them -- to keep track of what they're saying and doing? (And maybe Bree has hung onto hers longer than most?)

iamcool wrote:
Confused why would it cut off there?

if daniel caught him, why would they cut it off
if he never, why would jonas cut it off Confused

it makes no sense to me


It would make sense if Daniel came upstairs and Jonas had to stop filming then to deal with him (and maybe with Bree). You can only upload footage that you've been able to film.

itsmeforreal wrote:
Okay I'm going with the theory that Jonas has been in the room before, and that it was formerly much neater, and has since been broken into and basically destroyed.


Not necessarily. Storage areas frequently look as chaotic as that.

itsmeforreal wrote:
BUT The state of the room is not why Jonas said "What is That?" That has to be an object. If he were saying it more about the general state of the room it would logically be, "What the f**k!" or more likely out of Jonas' mouth, "What the Hell?!?!?!"


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aideen wrote:
When Daniel looked around, then almost immediately *fell asleep* and Jonas started to break in, I was just like, you knobjockey, he's obviously faking to see if you're out there.

Like when you're little and you pretend to go to sleep but keep your eyes slitted open to see if our toys come alive


Or was that just me....

Anyway, what I don't get is the Is he Out there? video. The description and everything leads us to believe daniel still doesn't know where Jonas is, but he could have easily edited in OMG I JUST CAUGHT JONAS UPSTAIRS SCREAMING SOMETHING ABOUT P.MONKEY KILLING HIS PARENTS

Coz we know he knows that Jonas knows he knows where Jonas is

Stinkin Daniel, how dare he lie to me! :O



Yeah I think Daniel fake-fell-asleep just because he knew Jonas was out there...but you caught exactly what I did about something that just doesn't jive.

The last video we watched was Daniel simply wondering if Jonas was out there and ect. If he "caught" Jonas the same night, why didn't he post more video saying so?

I guess we are only led to assume that Jonas hid...and wasn't found? Or perhaps Daniel 'let' Jonas go...? Or maybe this is how Jonas uploaded the video...by giving it to Daniel..or convincing Daniel and Bree that he can prove himself.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope she doesn't mind me posting this, but this seemed really smart.

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March 4th, 2007 at 7:01 am
Also, I went back and watched the Interrogation: 101 and Is he out there? videos again. Did anyone ever think about DB saying he “loosened up” Jonas’ binds??? That makes no sense at all. In the video Jonas is attached to the chair via garbage bag pulls. Last time I checked those things don’t loosen up. His legs had some sort of dinky rope, but even with that loosened or even untied he would have to be really flexible and handy with his feet to get out of those garbage ties.

Also, at the very beginning of the What the Hell?!?! video DB is already running the camera with absolutely nothing to say. . . just looking out the window before Bree ever yells.

Now don’t these things seem just a little out of place to anyone else?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they dont have jonas in the is he out there vid. i mean yeah there are flashes of light but that can be everything.

if you look at the lgpedia it is filmed by kevin. which means that the 2 of them werent filmed at the same time, otherwise he would have been in the shot too
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