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Luminous Thor's Hammer

Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Facility J
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: [Puzzle] Facility J - "This Side of Paradise" |
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The package arrived today, 3/08/07, via usps priority mail. It was addressed to “Resident”, written in black felt tip pen. The return address, written in red ink, was:
Dabrowski
200 Lakeview Terrace
Princeton NJ 08540
Inside the box was a black case like the one McPackage received. On top of the case was a 3x5 card that read "You have been helpful so far. To destroy J3 and J4, simply open the vials and let the samples disperse in an open area. I have also included some reading that you may find hits close to home. WD"
Inside the black case was a new copy of “This Side of Paradise” by F. Scott Fitzgerald. The UPC code is 9-780671-535551 (in case anyone wants to know.) Underneath the book, strapped into blue eggshell foam were two clear plastic vials with white caps, labled J3 and J4.
The samples have been destroyed, as instructed, evidence posted here.
Several pages of the book were dog eared and marked up as follows
Page 17
Midway down the page, the word the first four letters of the word “noticed” (noti) had a rectangle drawn around them in blue ballpoint ink. In the right hand margin of the same page the following number sequence was written in blue ball point ink:
7(-11) 3(+1) 4 2 6(-9) 2(+1) 4 6 3 1 2 1 2 5 1 1(+1) 1(+1)
Page 43
midway down the page, "12 University Place" was highlighted in blue marker. Written at the bottom of the page in blue ballpoint ink was:
0312-0316
Page 245
Approximately 1/3 down the page the question "Do you mind if I drop the Don?” was highlighted with blue marker.
Pages 284/285
In addition to being dog eared, these two pages were divided by a 3x5 card “bookmark”
with these letters written in black felt tip pen:
h y d y m y z h a m e k i z r b y d y w r a h a a t l l w
m i g n s e h n k o v l l z r w c v w f l s q b h f s f k
g z a l b m n c x b g k n f u t f y f
At the bottom of page 284 and the top of 285, the following text was highlighted in yellow marker: "He was ashamed of the fact that very simple and honest people usually distrusted him; that he had been cruel, often, to those who had sunk their personalities in him--several girls, and a man here and there through college, that he had been an evil influence on; people who had followed him here and there into mental adventures from which he alone rebounded unscathed.
Usually, on nights like this, for there had been many lately, he could escape from this consuming introspection by thinking of children and the infinite possibilities of children”
I have photographed everything in excrutiating detail , If anyone wants a close up, or a specific shot of anything, just let me know, and I will post it _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
There's no place like home.
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Ziola The Order of Denderah

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 5774
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Nice job, Luminous. The pictures are fantastic. I think for obvious reasons the number sequence needs to be fixed so that the math is done.
That gives us this numer sequence:
-77 4 4 2 -54 3 4 6 3 1 2 1 2 5 1 2 2
Just for giggles, I googled Noti. Its a town in Oregon. And University Place is an area in Washington State.
For what its worth...probably not helpful, but my coffee hasn't kicked in yet. |
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theresascraps Lonely Fan
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 178 Location: arizona
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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I used to leave in University Place washington, my inlaws still do. I have also been to Noti Oregon, as we used to leave on the coast of oregon as well.
Great pics luminous. this is so exciting. whick part should we solve first?
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TOSG Devoted Fan

Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 651
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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NotI is a restriction enzyme. I've got to run for right now, but I'll try to look at this puzzle further sometime tonight. |
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Ziola The Order of Denderah

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Luminous Thor's Hammer

Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Facility J
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Ziola wrote: | Nice job, Luminous. The pictures are fantastic. I think for obvious reasons the number sequence needs to be fixed so that the math is done.
That gives us this numer sequence:
-77 4 4 2 -54 3 4 6 3 1 2 1 2 5 1 2 2
Just for giggles, I googled Noti. Its a town in Oregon. And University Place is an area in Washington State.
For what its worth...probably not helpful, but my coffee hasn't kicked in yet. |
I'm a little slow this morning. No coffee yet, me too. Can you explain what you just did there and why? I don't always get the math. _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
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McPackage Casual Observer

Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 76 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Luminous wrote: | Can you explain what you just did there and why? I don't always get the math. |
Ziola did multiplications. 7(-11) = -77, for example. From past puzzles, these weren't to be multiplied, so I think it's safe to say we shouldn't consider that.
From past puzzles, the first number refers to a letter position in a word, and the second number refers to how many letters to shift, forward or backward, to get the letter we're looking for.
For instance, if the word was McPaddywagon, 7 would be the 7th letter, which is 'y', and -11 would have you shift backward 11 letters, which gives you 'n'. |
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Luminous Thor's Hammer

Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Facility J
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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McPackage wrote: | Luminous wrote: | Can you explain what you just did there and why? I don't always get the math. |
Ziola did multiplications. 7(-11) = -77, for example. From past puzzles, these weren't to be multiplied, so I think it's safe to say we shouldn't consider that.
From past puzzles, the first number refers to a letter position in a word, and the second number refers to how many letters to shift, forward or backward, to get the letter we're looking for.
For instance, if the word was McPaddywagon, 7 would be the 7th letter, which is 'y', and -11 would have you shift backward 11 letters, which gives you 'n'. |
Thanks for explaining that. It amazes me how you math brains can look at this stuff and understand what it means. Is this a common encryption/decryption method, or is it something Walter thought up specially for us? _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
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Ziola The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Luminous wrote: | McPackage wrote: | Luminous wrote: | Can you explain what you just did there and why? I don't always get the math. |
Ziola did multiplications. 7(-11) = -77, for example. From past puzzles, these weren't to be multiplied, so I think it's safe to say we shouldn't consider that.
From past puzzles, the first number refers to a letter position in a word, and the second number refers to how many letters to shift, forward or backward, to get the letter we're looking for.
For instance, if the word was McPaddywagon, 7 would be the 7th letter, which is 'y', and -11 would have you shift backward 11 letters, which gives you 'n'. |
Thanks for explaining that. It amazes me how you math brains can look at this stuff and understand what it means. Is this a common encryption/decryption method, or is it something Walter thought up specially for us? |
DISCLAIMER
I am not a math brain. My job only requires me to count to 8 and even that can be a stretch sometimes  |
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Luminous Thor's Hammer

Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Facility J
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ziola wrote: |
DISCLAIMER
I am not a math brain. My job only requires me to count to 8 and even that can be a stretch sometimes  |
Sometimes I've counted as high as 13 while watching sesame street. But I have good pattern recognition skills
From what I've seen of the past puzzles, I think the letters on the 3 x 5 card will decode into a DNA sequence that will be cut with NotI (I was wondering what that was, now I know it's an enzyme Thanks TOSG) and decoded with the number sequence. Thanks for explaining how the number sequence works, McPackage. Even though we've done this several times in past puzzles, I never really understood what happened.
Now I'm wondering - are the letters on the card a vigener cipher again? or is it another kind of cipher? I don't know - asking someone who does. So I suppose we should be looking for a key.
Walter highlighted several lines of text in both blue and yellow. I wonder what that means? It seems like he deliberately used different colors of ink and markers, when one pen and one marker would have done just as well. Maybe the different colored inks point to parts of the puzzle that are related to each other? Or maybe he's just a compulsive nerd? It amuses me to think of him with his white vinyl Facility J pocket protecter filled with pens of every kind and color of the rainbow  _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
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LONGTIMELURKER Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 389 Location: SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! ;) It's a secret.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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is this lg15 related ? _________________ The difference between Bree and Sarah is this ....
Bree- Classicly Beautiful/sweet/ "pure"/Vogue
Sarah-Modern Day HOT/ naughty/"dirty"/Penthouse |
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trainer101 Moderator Manager

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 2671 Location: Wasting away again ILLUMINATIVILLE...
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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LONGTIMELURKER wrote: | is this lg15 related ? |
Do you mean directly or indirectly?
Walter was introduced to us by TravelerJ who posted archival footage of the Order. Walter was once part of the project team that is featured in the TravelerJ videos.
TravelerJ was also a "suspiciously absent" forum member who popped in a few months ago to give a clue about one of the OpAphid puzzles - then vanished, never to be heard from again... until the videos surfaced.
It's all very intriguing and the puzzles have been complex and well thought out.
All I can suggest is, watch the videos and draw your own conclusions. _________________ It's STILL all connected... |
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Luminous Thor's Hammer

Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Facility J
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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LONGTIMELURKER wrote: | is this lg15 related ? |
My take is that the Facility J Universe is an alternate "reality" in the OpAphid Universe (which, as we know, has bumped into the Breeniverse). The letters O P A, and the watcher symbol appear on the logo that Traveler J shows us in the video "Great Minds Gather", and ends many of his videos with. The implication is that the Order runs Facility J. Yes, the same Order that has Bree, Daniel and Jonas on the run. Personally, I suspect more ties than this will be revealed as Walter gradually unveils what he knows. _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
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TOSG Devoted Fan

Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 651
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm making progress on something here. I'll update in a little bit.
UPDATE: Okay, now I'm stuck. I did, however, make some progress. I think I'm on the right track, but maybe one of you guys can help me out from here. Here's what I did:
I decoded the excerpt on page 284/5 using the Vigenere cipher passphrase given on the notecard. I obtained the following DNA sequence (the first 82 letters of the decoded result):
agtcgctaaaatggcGgccgctaatctgcgagctat
atttcttctcttgtccttgtttcttgtggcggccgcgacgct
I then put this sequence through a restriction analysis tool. As expected, I found two NotI cut sites. Better yet, the remaining DNA was 51 base pairs long. That's three times seventeen, the number of decoding numbers that Walter gave on page 17.
This sequence is:
ggccgctaatctgcgagctatatttcttctcttgtccttgtttcttgtggc
BUT, putting this sequence into a protein translator didn't do me much good. There was a stop codon in the original sequence, and the reverse, complement, and reverse-complement sequences didn't seem too promising either, although I didn't do a full translation.
Let me know if you guys think of anything to try next - I'll keep thinking about this. |
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TOSG Devoted Fan

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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Got it! Solution coming soon.
Here it is:
So, despite the stop codon in the translated sequence, I decided just to treat "stop" as a word, like any other amino acid. I got the following translation:
"Thpeefoursevensdh"
I figured that the "p" in the third position should be an "r." Maybe this was Walter's mistake, or maybe he was just trying to keep us guessing. Anyway, this led to the following tinyurl:
http://tinyurl.com/347sdh
BUT, then I cheated. Noticing that this redirected to the same photobucket album that Walter used previously, I checked the index and also found the following photo, labelled "drop":
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s118/WalterDW/drop.jpg
Nevertheless, I think I'll see what I can do with the code in the stamp on the new telegram. |
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