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Kasdeja Hymn of One

Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 7754 Location: Back...and to the left.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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True, but we ...well, things have been rearranged...but we did have a sticky to help with that. Plus, it's just not necessary to post it on every single forum, etc. |
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murph25 Suspiciously Absent

Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Mystery solved! I found the original painting that the chalice comes from. It's by Sebastiano Conca, an Italian painter. It was done in 1746. It is called "Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane". As I suspected, it portrays Christ being visited by an angel prior to his arrest and crucifixion, right after the last supper.
I found it here:
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/c/conca/gethsema.html
It is also here:
http://www.reproarte.com/picture/Sebastiano_Conca/Christ+in+the+garden+Gethsemane+/2626.html
It is a perfect match. The blue coloration must have been a manipulation, because the original version is pale-skinned.
What remains to be seen is whether this means anything to the overall story, or how it fits together with Frank's painting, the cup in the poem, the "garden", etc. |
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brandoblues Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 268
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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nice find |
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SivartAlappes Lonely Fan

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 209 Location: Virginia but moving to Cali soon
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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murph25 wrote: | Mystery solved! I found the original painting that the chalice comes from. It's by Sebastiano Conca, an Italian painter. It was done in 1746. It is called "Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane". As I suspected, it portrays Christ being visited by an angel prior to his arrest and crucifixion, right after the last supper.
I found it here:
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/c/conca/gethsema.html
It is also here:
http://www.reproarte.com/picture/Sebastiano_Conca/Christ+in+the+garden+Gethsemane+/2626.html
It is a perfect match. The blue coloration must have been a manipulation, because the original version is pale-skinned.
What remains to be seen is whether this means anything to the overall story, or how it fits together with Frank's painting, the cup in the poem, the "garden", etc. |
Dude, you freakin' rock! |
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Vapor Snake Suspiciously Absent

Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 20 Location: In a cardboard box
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Way to rock, Murph!! |
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josie4 Casual Observer
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 45 Location: OH
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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murph25 wrote: | Mystery solved! I found the original painting that the chalice comes from. |
Thank goodness! That has been driving me nuts!!! Good job!  _________________ ~Jo~ |
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jetblack Casual Observer
Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Murph!
Now, I wonder why Cassie chose that particular painting of the scene among the hundreds of others.
The painting was done in 1746, exactly 260 years ago.
Does that number or that year hold any significance?
1746 was the year Catharine de Ricci (known for her stigmata and engaging in extreme fasting and other forms of self punishment) was canonized.
It is also the year of birth for Robert R. Livingstone, signer of the Declaration of Independance, United State's first Secretary of Foreign Affairs, known Freemason and the first grand master of the Grand Lodge of New York.
College of New Jersey (later Princeton University) is founded. |
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KC Suspiciously Absent

Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Delft, Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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murph25 wrote: | Mystery solved! I found the original painting that the chalice comes from. It's by Sebastiano Conca, an Italian painter. It was done in 1746. It is called "Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane". As I suspected, it portrays Christ being visited by an angel prior to his arrest and crucifixion, right after the last supper. |
Possibly the WHERE is at:
Gethsemane Presbyterian Church
5022 Rosewood Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90004
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scdgoofy Casual Observer

Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 37
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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KC - Good find. Cu Roi lives very close and said he can check it out. |
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annapanna Casual Observer
Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 41
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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GREAT FIND!!!
Thank you sooo much!!! That picture was freaking me out, I looked over a thousand pictures the last days but could't find it! How did you do it???
I guess, for the interpretation, we should open a new thread? I will do so now and post the ideas already proposed there, alright?!? |
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SivartAlappes Lonely Fan

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 209 Location: Virginia but moving to Cali soon
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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KC wrote: | murph25 wrote: | Mystery solved! I found the original painting that the chalice comes from. It's by Sebastiano Conca, an Italian painter. It was done in 1746. It is called "Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane". As I suspected, it portrays Christ being visited by an angel prior to his arrest and crucifixion, right after the last supper. |
Possibly the WHERE is at:
Gethsemane Presbyterian Church
5022 Rosewood Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90004
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I was about to ask if there's a "gethsemane" somewhere near LA. SWEET! Someone should go hunting! |
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helix52 Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 284 Location: arizona
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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murph25 wrote: |
It is a perfect match. The blue coloration must have been a manipulation, because the original version is pale-skinned. |
I don't know if this is relevent but I was thinking that since we've found out that the original picture that this comes from was made to be blue for us to see, is it a reference to one of the Hindu gods Lord Vishnu or Lord Krishna? I just know that's what I thought of when I very first saw this pic, and now finding out it was altered.. could mean something, eh?
EDIT- Okay.. looking further, I've found out that Krishna is another form of Vishnu.. here's a link on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu
again, I don't know if this means a damn thing. I don't know anything about this religion.. maybe someone else does.. _________________ know the truth - www.wm3.org
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NillaWafers Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 358 Location: San Gabriel, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm the hands holding th chalice were blue...a dead angel? Just throwing that out there. _________________ Imma headhunter. |
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lyriclyinclined Casual Observer

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 41 Location: callifornia
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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im pretty sure each picture corrosponds with one of the poems. once we figure out which one goes with witch im sure they will help us solve the meaning of the poems. crazy? but it kind of makes sense. think about it...im working on figureing out which goes with witch as we speak. _________________ " hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable" |
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helix52 Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 284 Location: arizona
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I do think about it.. that's why my head hurts. _________________ know the truth - www.wm3.org
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