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Luminous
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject:

LOL - Seems I've stirred up enough trouble in this thread, might as well stir up a little more. Here are a couple of screen caps I meant to post earlier, but didn't have time. I'm curious - what is the blue light thingy? I haven't been to Vegas in along time - maybe this is something recognizable to you who have been, or maybe it's a piece of order technology? First this, at 00:09:09 The first image is the actual screen cap, the image below is a close-up of what I'm examining. Then this, at 00:13:09 Again, the first image is the actual screen cap, the image below is a close-up of what I'm examining. _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree. There's no place like home. Click to watch: The Ice Princess

Sheqinah
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Joined: 04 Feb 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject:

PixieSailor wrote:

While I see how this video is a breath of fresh air for those hating the repetitiveness of the whole "running from the order" thing, I can't bring myself to enjoy the teen angst adventure gang being hurt in any way. I actually LIKE them. Sad

That said, I LOVED the music choice near the end. LOVED it. Like, I really, really want to figure out what it was so I can listen to it for hours, because it was amazing. It fit perfectly with the video, the eeiry* calmness, the beautiful sorrow expressed. I found it very reminiscent to the scene in Return of the King when Pippin is singing his song to Denathor as Faramir and the remainder of his troops approach and are slaughtered on their way to Osgiliath.

I still believe in the free will clause, though. The order is influencing Bree, they are attacking everyone close to her, and who knows how violent they could get to try to convince her, but if she says she won't do the ceremony, I really doubt they'll make her. They could imprison her for the rest of her life, kill everyone close to her, but in the end she needs to make the choice.

* I have NO clue how to spell that word.

I am not so convinced of the free will thing as previously discussed. I think that the order operates in stages with each stage or particular group assigned its duties. I think we assumed she had free will because she was under the section of the order that has watchers. I think Aunt was warning that period of observation was almost certainly over. I read it as the next group in the order was taking over. Thus the different symbols as revealed by tachyon in the disc DB cracked.
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giddeanx
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject:

Luminous wrote:

Then this, at 00:13:09
Again, the first image is the actual screen cap, the image below is a close-up of what I'm examining.

Its blue limo lights on a stretch hummer.
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

Chelseyrl wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Ravensnow27 wrote:

You can even hear the keys go in when you see the elbow hand thingy

Then you're watching the wrong video. The one I'm saying to watch is the slow-mo one and there is no sound.

It isn't necessary to trim down the thread. You would just get more posts of angry people who are insulted that their posts were deleted.

I guess I got shot down on that pretty fast. Sorry I took up your precious forum space..?

Many people would agree with me on this one but whatever. I'll get barked at again for this.

I understand the concept of deleting pre-video posts (though I don't see why everyone bitches about it so much, I personally don't care.. just don't read them if you don't like them..). However, it would be just unfair to delete the posts of people actually trying to be productive just because their theories were wrong.

Also, I hate when people can't think of any comeback other than "well everyone else thinks so too.. HA." That doesn't prove anything. Just because many people would agree with you doesn't mean that you are right.

I think everyone has to get used to the fact that this is a forum open to anyone and not every post in every thread is going to interest you/illustrate your beliefs.

Thank you for your time. You may now return to your regularly scheduled rants about how worthless everyone else is.
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Shaneener
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject:

I've re-watched it (for the tenth time!) and noticed something weird. I can't take a screen cap because my laptop is gay, but did anyone else see a hand reach for Daniel? I couldn't see it he first few times because I was always concentrating on Daniel's roar-thing. Did anyone else notice this? _________________ Sorry, what's that I hear? That's the Hymn of One, singing for you to be happy.

Luminous
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject:

giddeanx wrote:

Its blue limo lights on a stretch hummer.

Thanks for clearing that up! lol
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject:

Shaneener wrote:

I've re-watched it (for the tenth time!) and noticed something weird.

I can't take a screen cap because my laptop is gay, but did anyone else see a hand reach for Daniel? I couldn't see it he first few times because I was always concentrating on Daniel's roar-thing.

Did anyone else notice this?

Yes, I see it too. It's well-illustrated in some screencaps somewhere in this thread. Smile

giddeanx wrote:

Its blue limo lights on a stretch hummer.

LOL I wouldn't have ever realized that.
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giddeanx
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Chelseyrl wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Ravensnow27 wrote:

You can even hear the keys go in when you see the elbow hand thingy

Many people would agree with me on this one but whatever. I'll get barked at again for this.

I have no problem with the thread or people posting. I just wish it would have been divided into the seperate topics before it got out of hand. There may be some very interesting posts buried in the center of this haystack that no one will ever see, because it is hard for someone to read all of the posts.
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Luminous
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject:

Shaneener wrote:

Yes, to me, it's pretty obvious someone snags his shirt at about 0:56 - 1:00 of the slow mo vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFKSqOqyG4
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject:

giddeanx wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Chelseyrl wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Ravensnow27 wrote:

You can even hear the keys go in when you see the elbow hand thingy

Many people would agree with me on this one but whatever. I'll get barked at again for this.

Well, we are more likely to miss something if we start deleting all the theories and posts that the majority disagrees with.
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giddeanx
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject:

Luminous wrote:

giddeanx wrote:

Its blue limo lights on a stretch hummer.

Thanks for clearing that up! lol

Sorry did you already say that somewhere. Sorry.

What was the time of the other screen cap?
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

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giddeanx
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

giddeanx wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Chelseyrl wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Ravensnow27 wrote:

You can even hear the keys go in when you see the elbow hand thingy

Many people would agree with me on this one but whatever. I'll get barked at again for this.

Well, we are more likely to miss something if we start deleting all the theories and posts that the majority disagrees with.

Um Im not with deleting only that I wish they were premptively seperated by the posters themselves.
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

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Shaneener
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject:

I have a question-- Why take Jonas's car? A rich cult could probably afford a Benz or a Hummer, which is muuuuuuch nicer than Jonas's crap SUV thing. _________________ Sorry, what's that I hear? That's the Hymn of One, singing for you to be happy.

giddeanx
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

Shaneener wrote:

I have a question--

Why take Jonas's car? A rich cult could probably afford a Benz or a Hummer, which is muuuuuuch nicer than Jonas's crap SUV thing.

The needed to remove it from the scene of the crime so no one would be suspicious of a abandoned car at a gas pump.
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

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JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

giddeanx wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

giddeanx wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Chelseyrl wrote:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:

Ravensnow27 wrote:

You can even hear the keys go in when you see the elbow hand thingy

Many people would agree with me on this one but whatever. I'll get barked at again for this.

Well, we are more likely to miss something if we start deleting all the theories and posts that the majority disagrees with.

Um Im not with deleting only that I wish they were premptively seperated by the posters themselves.

lol, I realize you aren't personally deleting.
What Chelsey suggested was that posts that don't provide any new concrete ideas/information should be deleted.
I had posted some screencaps, speculating that an object looked like a face to me. According to Chelsey, that post should be deleted.
I am saying that I think that would be unfair. I think it would insult people to start doing that. And it would only make it easier for us to miss some clue.
And I have no idea what you mean by posters separating their own posts.
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