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longlostposter
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| giddeanx wrote: | Ok I said before and I will say it again. This video should actually prove to everyone that niether of the boys are Order.
Don't forget that this is a private video, meaning its interoffice communication, they wouldn't have to fake anything no one else will see it.
Jonas would not have to fake his capture. Because if he is order the order knows it.
Due to the fact that this is a hit confirmation video. Daniel would be shown taking Bree or Jonas, because if he had a trigger and it was to be activated the order would already know.
There is no damning evidence to be had.
Oh Luminous I posted an idea on your first light it got buried quick hope you saw it. |
I agree with everything you've said here, gidd, except the part that a triggered Daniel would have been shown on vid. The captor is never shown in any of the abductions, and I don't see why the Order would need to know that Daniel had been triggered. There would have been a plan already in place, and they would have known how it would go down.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| longlostposter wrote: | | giddeanx wrote: | Ok I said before and I will say it again. This video should actually prove to everyone that niether of the boys are Order.
Don't forget that this is a private video, meaning its interoffice communication, they wouldn't have to fake anything no one else will see it.
Jonas would not have to fake his capture. Because if he is order the order knows it.
Due to the fact that this is a hit confirmation video. Daniel would be shown taking Bree or Jonas, because if he had a trigger and it was to be activated the order would already know.
There is no damning evidence to be had.
Oh Luminous I posted an idea on your first light it got buried quick hope you saw it. |
I agree with everything you've said here, gidd, except the part that a triggered Daniel would have been shown on vid. The captor is never shown in any of the abductions, and I don't see why the Order would need to know that Daniel had been triggered. There would have been a plan already in place, and they would have known how it would go down. |
If Daniel did any of the apprehension he would have to be shown on video to confirm the hit. The fact that the camara man does all of the apprehension is telling.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| longlostposter wrote: | | giddeanx wrote: |
Due to the fact that this is a hit confirmation video. Daniel would be shown taking Bree or Jonas, because if he had a trigger and it was to be activated the order would already know.
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I agree with everything you've said here, gidd, except the part that a triggered Daniel would have been shown on vid. The captor is never shown in any of the abductions, and I don't see why the Order would need to know that Daniel had been triggered. There would have been a plan already in place, and they would have known how it would go down. |
The Order would, indeed know what was about to go down. I think the point is, they wouldn't need to hide the fact that it was Daniel, because everyone seeing the video would already know it was him. Since it's a private transmission to only those in the "know", why bother covering up the fact that Daniel did it?
As this just enforces the fact that Daniel probably didn't do the abductions, I'm not sure why you are arguing the point. 
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longlostposter
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| giddeanx wrote: | | longlostposter wrote: | | giddeanx wrote: | Ok I said before and I will say it again. This video should actually prove to everyone that niether of the boys are Order.
Don't forget that this is a private video, meaning its interoffice communication, they wouldn't have to fake anything no one else will see it.
Jonas would not have to fake his capture. Because if he is order the order knows it.
Due to the fact that this is a hit confirmation video. Daniel would be shown taking Bree or Jonas, because if he had a trigger and it was to be activated the order would already know.
There is no damning evidence to be had.
Oh Luminous I posted an idea on your first light it got buried quick hope you saw it. |
I agree with everything you've said here, gidd, except the part that a triggered Daniel would have been shown on vid. The captor is never shown in any of the abductions, and I don't see why the Order would need to know that Daniel had been triggered. There would have been a plan already in place, and they would have known how it would go down. |
If Daniel did any of the apprehension he would have to be shown on video to confirm the hit. The fact that the camara man does all of the apprehension is telling. |
No one who captured anyone was ever shown on tape, so it goes without saying that this was not necessary. If it were, then the abductor(s)would have been shown.
You yourself just said, 'could you catch yourself at this angle if you were filming' (referring to the reflection); so that would blow your own theory out of the window. There would have had to be someone else filming that part, by your own theorizing.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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I am merely saying that Daniel had absolutely nothing to do with the nappings. He wasn't triggered, he wasn't order he was nabbed like the rest.
The reflection in the car door cannot be the person filming and I do not believe it is daniel beast either. If it is a human it is wearing black. Daniel at the time of capture had on a white shirt. Why would they give a zombified daniel a black jacket to put on.
Also the hand, is not a human hand it emmits to much light I would say it is a bank of floresents that light the pump area.
Also if Daniel did any of the hits behind the camera, why in the hell would they give him one (camera that is). I would just film Daniel doing his programmed deed (so that HQ could have confirmation).
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Just pondering...when Daniel, Bree and Jonas get into the car at the beginning of the video and the "watcher" or whoever it may be goes to follow them, he/she/they run up to a car in the parking lot and it sounds as if the car is broken into with the smashing of the window (you can hear a bang and then a sound of glass shattering). But, at the beginning of the video where it seems to be the watcher(s) going about the streets of Las Vegas following or searching for D,B, and J...it looks as if they are driving because of the speed and smoothness of the video and the buildings passing by. So there's the question..if he/she/they WERE driving in the beginning..why steal or break into another car? Jonas' car was also clearly driven off so what happened to the original car? Just some food for thought while we wait for a new video haha... |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Arrgghhhh. I am tired of all the argueing associated with this video. My thoughts are that they should just cough up a new video already so that we can all have something new to ponder   |
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longlostposter
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| PinkRanger wrote: | | So there's the question..if he/she/they WERE driving in the beginning..why steal or break into another car? Jonas' car was also clearly driven off so what happened to the original car? |
Good question. I have no idea; unless we are misinterpreting the noise.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Just a thought...
Anyone consider that this COULD be a little Aprl fools gag from Bree, Jonas, and Daniel. Like on April 1 we get a APRIL FOOLS video?
It'd suck if that was the case...just a though though since we never REALLY saw who was chasing them, and we never really saw the captor at the gas station...could just be BJD messing with everyone.
Did I mention it would suck if this turned out to be true.
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| megs229 wrote: | | Arrgghhhh. I am tired of all the argueing associated with this video. My thoughts are that they should just cough up a new video already so that we can all have something new to ponder |
Oh I wouldn't argue with Juli. It's just spirited debate. However, a new video would be great. But just so you know when it comes out, there will be even more arg... oops sorry debate. 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Not Daniel |
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Its not a person at all. Thats where I think my mind was going.
The shoulder that everyone sees is created by the lens filter that is used throughout the film (the shadowy shape around the screen). The hanky is a light. The left arm is also a bank of florecents. The belt is also a light.
Due to the movement in the shot the lights stretched out creating rectangular shapes.
The big clue is how insubstancial the shape is. It does not block or reflect light. In a heavily lighted area more detail would be present.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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far fetched idea.. woof woof..  but who says they were even captured? the comment in the last video about making videos, maybe they are being paranoid and thinking they are being followed... ?? i know.. far fetched idea.. and faking their abduction?? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| DogNamedZippo wrote: | | far fetched idea.. woof woof.. but who says they were even captured? the comment in the last video about making videos, maybe they are being paranoid and thinking they are being followed... ?? i know.. far fetched idea.. and faking their abduction?? |
In the new video system this movie is labeled with the Faction of Order and the message type of Private. So this video is for Order by order. It would be unlikely that the filmer would fake an abduction.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm soooo ready for a new video that I watched the slow-mo video a few times, and I'm now convinced: the hand that people think is grabbing Daniel's shirt looks to me like Daniel's hand pulling on the black hoodie.
I can't believe how much time I've now spent thinking about this  |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| longlostposter wrote: | | PinkRanger wrote: | | So there's the question..if he/she/they WERE driving in the beginning..why steal or break into another car? Jonas' car was also clearly driven off so what happened to the original car? |
Good question. I have no idea; unless we are misinterpreting the noise. |
Yeahh that's what I was thinking too...there's a very good possibility that I'm just reading too much into it! |
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